Only one I truly noticed jumping a little after the release was 1st Professor Hulk (but even then it's just speculators and hype), but I haven't been following all of it too much.

Thor #390, the first time Cap wielded Mjolnir has apparently had a little bump.

Captain America #25. First Falcon as Cap.

If you have something list it now. The hype won't last.

Avengers # 12 from the 2010 series jumped from $2 to $50

I have literally zero interest in Infinity War and Daredevil crossing over. As we have unfortunately seen, Daredevil had precious little runtime to approximate hundreds of stories from a storied 60 year history. I don't need a bunch of Avengers noise polluting that. Give me DD vs Fisk (or other actual DD villains) every day.

We all know Marvel will restore everything back to the way things were. Peter Parker might even get lucky and have his Aunt May's memory of his identity erased.

If the film MCU ends up killing some of the original Avengers, I'll be happy. Because right now, I see Endgame ending with the original Avengers simply walking away and handing the reigns to T'Challa. No one is really going to die and Peter will hug Gamora. They may even bring Loki back.

The snap allows for too many comebacks. The tension for me is no longer there.

Nothing in the snap compared to watching Dex as Bullseye hunt for Karen in the cathedral.

Even if more seasons came, I doubt they'd ever cover the "snap" at all. Mostly because it's known that Endgame will undo the events of the "snap", not to mention that it would handicap the TV show writers to make them have to stop their ongoing storylines to deal with a problem that's completely different, tone-wise.

Daredevil and the Defenders series getting cancelled is because of the Snap! It all makes sense!! Wake up sheeple!!

Yeah I was initially disappointed we never got Fisk vs spidey, but then Marvel released DD S3 and Into the Spiderverse. Now I'm glad we didn't.

There will be zero impact on anyone any a thing that didn't fight Thanos. It can only end with someone putting on the glove and in snapping the universe. Everything will be restored to how it was. Spider-Man man was dusted but we know his movie will be out soon and it takes place after IW.

For everyone else or will just be "a wierd space ship landed in New York again. I think the Avengers showed up. Either way it's gone. How was your weekend Larry?"

Infinity Stones were destroyed in this reality. That’s why they had to borrow some from the past.

So while there may be references to them - it’s not like they were wiped from memory - it’ll just be historical. Like “Remember back when the Earth had dinosaurs...”

As far as end credits go, I’d guess it was in tribute that they had none because that story effectively ended.

I’d guess that Far From Home will function as an epilogue - it will address some of the “five year stuff” for the character that arguably is most impacted by that time jump due to his young age.

I’m going to go in expecting though that the end credits of Far From Home will give us the slightest taste of what we should expect in the next cycle - IF that has been decided for sure.

Since I think we don’t have another MCU film until 2020.

Something can be definitive and still referenced. Definitive end means a new villain won't come along and try to gather the stones again. Whatever issue the new overarching villain presents, it won't be based on the stones.

Their effects will be mentioned. But they won't be the driving force of the next Phases.

Far from Home is the End/Beginning of the Phases, so there will probably be a teaser for what to expect in Phase 4.

Except they are underperforming across the board.

Even the domestic figures OP wrote above show that. They’ve done worse than everything there except the Phase 1 origins, and the Ant-Man origins.

So 3 movies about 3 characters that weren’t popular with the cinema audience, released before the MCU was established, and the origin story of a comedy character that even less people knew about.

Show me the Phase 2 and 3 figures there. I’d say they’ve been left out on purpose.

I liked Thunderbolts and FF, but trying to argue that they are doing well is deluded. They’re not. And it’s not China’s fault.

It’s a mixture of that, and that the cinema industry just never fully recovered after Covid. Covid forced people to watch movies through streaming at home, and then people realized how nice it is to be comfortable, clean, AND cheap with whatever food you want and no timeframe needed to be there.

I ADORE going to the theater, it’s one of my favorite experiences, I’ve been regularly seeing movies in theaters since I was super young (seeing Jurassic Park lost world and men in black in theaters are deeply rooted memories still)… but going to the theater now is SO wildly expensive, it’s almost non-viable as a viewing experience for general audiences. I went by myself to see Avatar 2 to one of the cheapest theaters in my area…. The theater had sticky floors, the popcorn was over cooked, my soda was flat, and I spent nearly $40. For that same $40, I was able to BUY Thunderbolts, stay in my clean home, make popcorn, drink what I wanted, AND have a full dinner while I enjoyed the movie.

I will still go to some movies due to the experience… Let’s face it, some movies are meant to be seen on the big screen. But as a casual entertainment option, theaters have been priced out and become a major inconvenience as opposed to the streaming options. Whereas before, we had to wait for things to come to streaming, Covid made movies hit streaming faster and faster. Now there is basically no reason to break the bank to go see something that I’m fine just watching at home.

Between the Chinese markets not being as lucrative as before, and streaming being more convenient after Covid, our obsession with judging success of movies based on their theatrical release is misplaced and honestly kind of silly. Marvel is doing well still, they didn’t really change so much as the world itself changed.

Absolutely. There has been a huge drop off since Covid and since the shadow ban (2020-late 2023) of Marvel movies due to backlash over Chloe Zhao’s comments on Hong Kong’s independence and overall Chinese government.

Yeah this is pretty obviously the case. The real question is whether marvel will adjust their budgets for films so that not every film needs to hit 400+ to break even

I think that’s what they’re trying to say. It not being robust as in they don’t come in hordes to see mcu films like they might have done at one point in time

Valid point, but doesn't mean a ton when Marvel is spending money as if that market still exists.

Look at Star Wars, that has never been a huge franchise in China so they never could make it an Avatar level worldwide phenomenon. But they budgeted and pushed hard for a worldwide market that didn't really care. Endgame was released the same year with a computable budget and did almost three times as much revenue. China was set up as a trendsetter for an industry that was only convent at best, they never really cared otherwise. They won't fanboy for US films like other countries do.

These two things aren’t mutually exclusive.

You’ve literally just typed “the movies aren’t bombing, they’re just being watched by less people and earning less money”.

So… they’re bombing.

And earning less than a Phase 1 origin story is embarrassing for a Marvel movie.

its a pretty big difference in how you respond though. “Marvel movies are bombing because people are rapidly losing interest” suggests things are only gonna get worse and they should probably just stop making them. meanwhile “Marvel movies are bombing because people in China don’t care about American movies any more” means if you just adjust you budget to the expectation that you’ll only do well domestically you can get back to making a consistent profit

Careful, Redditors don’t read.

Ice Cube shot War of the worlds in his room and it’s a masterpiece.

I think it has been successful in making money but it hasn’t been successful in keeping the standard that marvel built and set up for themselves from iron man to endgame. I think it has had some shows and movies that fans really connect with and want to see more of like daredevil, agatha, thunderbolts, shangchi and Wanda vision . They have not had an overall success in telling good stories and connecting to the audience like they did in the infinity saga. This saga has been messy from the start, it has had a lack of cohesion, the stories that they picked to tell probably were not the best ones to be adapted, not all of the directors did their research and the bombarded us with new characters that they did not develop well. Doomsday and secret wars might help bring some things together and make good fan service movies but I don’t they will be able to fix the mistakes they made before the end of this saga.

I think with Doomsday coming the projects are getting more focused. I think one of the advantages the MCU has is as there are more unifying films then the films and shows that feed into that become more important and worth watching or rewatching.

Multiverse saga was the jump start for me to skip some series.

Never finished Secret Invasion, Ms Marvel, She Hulk.

Lost hype for any new series to come out. Thunderbolts never got me.

I guess Daredevil & X-Men 97 is the only thing left for me

If that was the case, Marvel wouldn't be so desperate to bring back RDJ.

Loved your analysis, this was great to read :)

Switching to small tv show stories of heroes coming up during that gap would have been great. Just small budget origin adventures that aren't mandatory when the movies come back

Yes. The multiverse saga has been a colossal failure in terms of quality.

It would do them a great service to take a one to two year break to map out their ideas moving forward.

Maybe if I think of it retrospectively. I don’t even know what the new avengers movie will be about. I just know it has avengers in the title and that’s it. Not to mention the only movies I have cared about after endgame is GOTG 3, Thunderbolts and Deadpool and Wolverine.

No on 5 years. Yes on a break. They had a few things go against them that were out of their control; the pandemic and the stuff that happened with Majors and the death of Boseman. They didn't seem to have a good plan after End Game like they had at the start of the MCU and I'm sure the other stuff threw a big wrench in their plans. It's easy to say in hindsight that they needed a break to regroup. At the time they saw it as keeping the momentum going, which led to them churning out some subpar movies and that just got worse when they lost what they decided to build towards with Majors.

I think if they had been able to make more movies with Boseman and been able to follow through with Kang, they would be in a better place. However they had some good movies after End Game, some that I question why they didn't do more with, like Shang Chi.

Yes they should have. Absence makes the heart grow fonder. Although the time wouldn’t have changed anything if the movies produced ended up as bad as the ones that came out

The main reason they don't sell is because Marvel doesn't market them at all. A comic reader will know about them, sure, but the majority of MCU fans don't read comics won't know about it

I haven't elaborated on why Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man's sales is considered bad even though it debuted at #54:

Comic industry contracted during COVID. Top-sellers nowadays only move around few dozen thousand books. Don't believe me? The Disney Jr. show Spidey and His Amazing Friends moved 36K units in 2023 in the book market and it's considered the second best selling book overall for Marvel at the end of the year. Data taken from Bookscan 2023 published by ComicsBeat.

The worst part? Marvel didn't publish it either. Disney Hyperion published that book.

The general MCU audience are not comic book fans. this ain't really surprising.

Most of those MCU comics were just straight adaptations of previous films.

Love the Blip. Still annoyed that they've never done anything worthwhile story-wise with the five year gap, though.

For example, it can't happen now because of Thunderbolts* but a movie set in those five years about a team of superpowered individuals with...questionable morality attempting to replace the disbanded Avengers should have been a no-brainer.

Yes, just wish we'd have had some stories taking place during the blip instead of just Endgame showing us.

I think a Disney+ anthology show could have been a good way to go to show the fallout from the snap.

Give us a space episode with Captain Marvel, War Machine dealing with a politics dispute, John-Wick action with Ronin taking out a crime syndicate. Have Banner as the main recurring character to actually show how he made peace with the Hulk.

It could also have been a good way to introduce She-Hulk; use her comic origin of being shot on her way to court when defending against a notorious gang, only here the case has to do with the snap. She-Hulk not being a rage monster could also have been a good catalyst for Bruce's arc, trying to figure out the difference between Hulks.

End with a team up against a larger threat and it could characterise the blip well and make it no longer seem like just a "pause" in the MCU.

Secret Invasion, Moon Knight, Miss Marvel, Shang Chi, literally all of them could've been set during the Blip.it would've made so much sense to introduce new heroes during a time without Avengers, bit they just... didn't

This would be an amazing way of introducing mutants. Fewer people in the world means those with odd quirks are much easier to spot. They’ve always existed but kept their powers out of the spotlight.

I’d also like to see the perspective of people who blipped in the air. Like what happened to that helicopter at the end of Infinitty War. Or people driving cars. Do they return with the same inertia or in the same location? Presumably so.

Did Hulks snap cause thousands of people to suddenly fall from the sky? What happens when someone confronts him about the deaths he indirectly caused? That could make for a good way of pushing him into the darker version of Hulk. Society turning on him again.

What happens if one purpose returns in the exact same positioning as someone else already standing there? Do they merge? Do they both die?

Black Widow should have been set during the Blip. With Bruce as a supporting character.

-The Red Room comes back as a response to the chaos.

-We can see Bruce struggling with trying to merge himself with hulk.

-hes nearby when Nat falls off the helicarrier at the end, manages to transform to smart hulk in time to catch her and save her.

-provide some sort of closure to the Bruce/Nat relationship.

I was about to say the same. Agents of Shield already showed normal people living in the same world as these powered beings dealing with more normal stuff. Season 6 would've been perfect to show them and other organisations helping the world adjust to the snap.

It's a shame Feige and Marvel Studios didn't really want to share info as the show went on. 

Too late now anyway, race to Secret Wars before a soft reboot featuring the X-Men.

How you have so much time to read? That’s amazing

This Omni is really interesting to me but I know that the stories range in quality. I hope that it pops up at Ollie’s or BookOutlet at some point so I can get it cheap 😂

that’s an interesting perspective, I thought the X-men issues were disliked by most