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Introduction to Ring Theory Books

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  • Recommended introductory books: "A First Course in Abstract Algebra" by J.B. Fraleigh [5:1], and Judson's free online book [5:2].

Classic Texts and Recommendations

For those seeking a comprehensive introduction to ring theory, several classic texts are frequently recommended. N. Jacobson's works are considered crucial for general ring theory [1:1]. Additionally, "A First Course in Abstract Algebra" by J.B. Fraleigh is available as a PDF and provides foundational knowledge on groups, rings, and fields [5:1]. Another valuable resource is the free online book by Judson, which covers abstract algebra topics including rings [5:2].

Standalone Books Focused on Specific Topics

If you're looking for standalone books that focus specifically on rings, modules, and fields, the discussion suggests exploring Ian Stewart's work on Galois theory [4:2]. While the thread didn't provide specific titles for rings or modules akin to Armstrong's style for group theory, it indicates a preference for books that delve deeply into particular algebraic structures.

Motivation and Historical Context

Understanding the motivation behind ring theory can enrich your study. Historically, ring theory developed from attempts to address problems in number theory and algebraic geometry [1:3]. The study of rings is motivated by their ability to generalize properties of integers and polynomials, offering insights into factorization and division [2:2]. This historical context can be explored further in Corry's paper "The Origins of the Definition of Abstract Rings" [1:4].

Additional Resources

For those interested in exploring more about the history and philosophical aspects of ring theory, Eisenbud's "Commutative Algebra with a View Towards Algebraic Geometry" provides an insightful introduction [1:6]. Furthermore, discussions around the fundamental nature of integers versus rings can offer a deeper understanding of algebraic structures [3:3][3:7].

These resources and insights should help guide your exploration of ring theory, whether you are looking for textbooks or seeking to understand the broader context and motivations behind the field.

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What is the history of ring theory? When did it achieve its modern form?

Posted by Financial_Ocelot_263 · in r/math · 1 month ago
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k3surfacer · 1 month ago

No, I meant the old one "the theory of rings". Other books were "just" very good books :))

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chebushka · 1 month ago

Those are two very different questions. Dedekind introduced the modern definition of ideals within the setting of rings of algebraic integers, but the modern abstract viewpoint on general rings is largely due to Emmy Noether. See Kleiner's "A History of Abstract Algebra". This topic was not developed for its own sake: it was being used in different ways within number theory and algebraic geometry (at least for commutative rings), and each of these areas of math contributed to the genesis of important ideas in ring theory.

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Ok-Eye658 · 1 month ago

you might want to take a look at corry's 2000 paper "the origins of the definition of abstract rings" (and possibly his book "modern algebra and the rise of mathematical structures") 

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k3surfacer · 1 month ago

For general ring theory, I believe N. Jacobson's book and works were crucial.

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Financial_Ocelot_263 · OP · 1 month ago

What about emmy noether?

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k3surfacer · 1 month ago

Oh, there were many who are remembered for their works. From noether to artin, from Jacobson to amitsur, ... But I believe the works of Jacobson, like Jacobson radical and more importantly his density theorem created the crown needed to give a specific independent status to ring theory. My opinion.

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quicksanddiver · 1 month ago

I recommend reading the introduction of Eisenbud's "commutative algebra with a view towards algebraic geometry". The free PDF can be found with a quick Google search

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Stabile_Feldmaus · 1 month ago

I believe the earliest works were carried out by S. Auron and his student C. Brimbor but their approach was received rather negatively by the community iirc.

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ninguem · 1 month ago

Auron was the first to formulate the universal property of the Auron ring.

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Potatays · 1 month ago

I really enjoy the deconstruction work by F. B. Aggins. It ends right where it starts forming a proper loop.

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chebushka · 1 month ago

Even if the work was done earlier, didn’t it only become widely known in the 1950s? Emmy Noether published earlier, so there’s that point to consider.

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halfajack · 1 month ago

There’s an interesting survey article by S. Aruman, who studied the work of Auron-Brimbor quite closely, but I can’t find it just now

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Ring Theory motivation?

Posted by rigorous_proof · in r/mathematics · 18 days ago

Hey, I have a doubt. Group Theory is the study of Symmetry. That's a good source of motivation to begin with. Teachers usually begin and take the example of an equilateral triangle, explain it's rotation and relate it with the rules of being a group. That's good! But in case of ring theory, where does the motivation come from? I couldn't understand it.

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SebzKnight · 18 days ago

One important starting point that is familiar to even high school algebra students: Integers and rings of Polynomials (say, the ring of polynomials with integer coefficients) are examples of rings. They have a lot in common -- we see very similar ideas of factoring, division with remainder and related theorems (uniqueness of factorization, the Chinese Remainder Theorem etc.). So while this sort of Unique Factorization Domain isn't the only sort of ring we study, coming up with something that generalizes this sort of behavior should make sense.

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fridofrido · 18 days ago

Functions on any space form a (commutative) ring (by pointwise addition and multiplication).

This is usually a duality (from the ring you can reconstruct the space). This is the fundamental starting point of algebraic geometry (but it also works with topological spaces and continuous functions, etc).

So you could say that (commutative) ring theory is the study of spaces.

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topyTheorist · 18 days ago

And functions from a space to itself (operators) often form a noncommutative ring (assuming the space has an addition operation).

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AnaxXenos0921 · 18 days ago

Whenever you have an abelian group A, the group homomorphisms A->A naturally form a ring, with multiplication given by the composition. This ring encodes many important structures of the original group A, while having an additional piece of structure makes it more well behaved

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jacobningen · 18 days ago

basically Z we want to have facts about Z proven more generally additionally attempts to prove Fermats Last Theorem historically.

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AlchemistAnalyst · 18 days ago

Here is a story on the historical motivation for the study of rings. The mathematicians Gabriel Lamé and Ernst Kummer both independently discovered a false proof of Fermat's Last Theorem in which they assume Z[r] where r is a root of unity is always unique factorization domain (UFD). It's now known that if r is a 23rd root of unity, for example, then Z[r] is not a UFD.

This failure of unique factorization led Kummer to a study of what he called "ideal numbers." It's not very clear to me what exactly ideal numbers are, but I do know Kummer's work led to Dedekind's definition of an ideal in a ring, and the formal study of rings more generally.

It also should be noted that the individual pieces of this story are correct, but their connection has been disputed. We don't really know how motivated Kummer was by FLT specifically, and it's often exaggerated that his later work on ideal numbers was due to him being so bothered by the failure of this FLT proof.

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Kienose · 18 days ago

This anecdote about Kummer finding a false proof is often repeated but historically false. See for example from Lemmermeyer’s Reciprocity Laws page 15. Stillwell raised a similar point in his introduction to the translation of Dedekind’s theory of algebraic numbers.

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AlchemistAnalyst · 18 days ago

So it is known that the false proof is Lamé's and Lamé's alone?

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What is more fundamental: Z or Rings with Unity?

Posted by WMe6 · in r/math · 2 months ago

This is more a philosophical question than anything else: what is the more fundamental object, the integers or the category of rings? As defined in undergrad texts, rings distill the key properties of integers and seem immensely more general than the integers. Yet, you can define rings as Z-algebras and Z is the initial object of Rings. So it looks like the integers are somehow built into the definition of rings.

Are there interesting categories out there whose initial objects/final objects are not *defined via* the integers or the trivial object?

More philosophically, if we can't define interesting mathematical objects without somehow involving the integers, does this mean (commutative) algebra is really just the study of the integers at a highly sophisticated level? That would make Kronecker's quote about God creating the integers quite a bit deeper than I initially suspected.

[Incidentally, this question came up when I was trying to understand the product of schemes, and in particular, how the product of schemes is the fibre product over Spec Z, the final object of AffSch. If someone could give a concrete motivating example of a fibre product not over Spec Z, it would probably help me develop some intuition as to what it is!]

Edit: I realized that Spec Z are the prime ideals of Z and not Z itself, so I should slightly broaden my second question!

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Tokarak · 2 months ago

As a category theorist, I would say Rings are more fundamental. The category Ring (of unital rings) can be constructed as the category MonAb, the category of monoids over abelian groups (the underlying abelian group of a ring is the additive group). Then, the integers appear as the initial object of Ring. (PS: The additive group of integers is significant in that it is the free abelian group generated by one element.)

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bizarre_coincidence · 2 months ago

"God gave us the integers, the rest is the work of man" -Kronecker

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WMe6 · OP · 2 months ago

That was my reference! If not all of math, but at least all of commutative algebra (and thus algebraic geometry) seems to be built on top of Z.

When I first heard of this quote, I thought Kronecker was just being dramatic. I didn't know enough algebra or category theory to realize how deep this quote was.

Since R and C are ultimately built from Q (itself built from Z), analysis is arguably just the study of the completion (or algebraic closure) of the field of fractions of Z, so maybe all of math really is just the study of "numbers"??

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bizarre_coincidence · 2 months ago

I always took the content of the quote to be that very little in math is truly inherent to nature. It's all patterns we have noticed and attempted to abstract. Constructions on top of constructions on top of constructions.

I think to answer your question, you need to figure out what you mean by "fundamental", and then ask "fundamental to what?" Because as far as just objects go, you can't get too much more fundamental than the integers. But if you're talking about algebraic geometry, rings with unity are essential (although more classically, polynomial rings). If you're doing analysis, the category of commutative rings doesn't enter into the picture at all (although some particular rings do). Everything is so context dependent.

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r_search12013 · 2 months ago

you already know that the integers are the initial object in commutative rings with unit (let's call it: CRing_1) .. so it comes down to what you find "fundamental"? I'd argue, integers are a consequence of the category CRing_1, but you couldn't reconstruct CRing_1 just from staring at the integers long enough imho.

specifically the standard proof of the fact that determinants "stay multiplicative" over commutative rings, where one argues over Z and its quotient fields for various numbers of variables .. seems to convey the integers "know everything", but I'd argue they know some things, the ones every commutative ring must at least obey..

and then I go into the category of spectra, where the sphere spectrum is initial, and can "point to" the (eilenberg mac lane spectrum of) the integers .. suddenly you could consider the "field with one element" .. maybe spectra are _the_ fundamental object? :)

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WMe6 · OP · 2 months ago

Oh boy, I read the wikipedia article about the "field with one element" several months ago and just ended up perplexed....

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Tokarak · 2 months ago

I still have zero understanding of what's going on there, even after rereading that article like three times. My conclusion: fields are stupid and the field with one element should be the zero ring.

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r_search12013 · 2 months ago

you should be :D .. there's a lot of indications that something like that should exist .. but mostly we see it by its module category: finite sets

I've spent 180 pages of phd thesis doing clever indexing of spectra over finite sets like a few decades of topologists before me .. it's cumbersome, error prone, but very satisfying when things finally work -- it also made me veeeery invested into testing and proving as much as I can with code, index errors can make a whole theory collapse: jp may "e infty ring spaces and e infty ring spectra" has an index error which makes his "double operad" concept absolutely useless

it's fixed by now, but I can't imagine having a university career of papers only fixing an old mistake :S

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nonreligious2 · 2 months ago

There was some semi-famous tech or quant guy in the news (for the usual modern controversies, if I recall) a few years ago, and someone looked up his thesis and it turned out to be on the field with one element.

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Agreeable_Speed9355 · 2 months ago

I like this "category first" approach. Z stands out because it is initial in CRing_1. By extending this philosophy, we see the sphere spectrum as being initial in spectra. This approach allows us to explore the world of structures "below spec Z," which feels almost mystical. Granted, when teaching a child the fundamentals of math, I think it's better to start with arithmetic rather than the sphere spectrum. Spectra might instead deserve to be called "more initial," but with enough sophistication under one's belt, I think "more fundamental" is fair.

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rip_omlett · 2 months ago

integers are more fundamental because we found them first :)

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Robot_marmot · 2 months ago

I understand Z-modules are the same as abelian groups, but the second notion feels more fundamental. How do you even define a module without Ab?

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Armstrong like books for rings, modules and fields

Posted by Interesting_Mind_588 · in r/math · 1 year ago

Most algebra courses I've seen use general abstract algebra books which are somewhat encyclopaediac like dummit and foote. However I've seen Armstrong's Groups and symmetry used quite often for introductory group theory.

I'd be grateful if anyone recommend any standalone books covering just a particular object, specifically on modules, rings, fields and galois theory that can be read by a novice.

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MungoShoddy · 1 year ago

Ian Stewart on Galois theory.

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Interesting_Mind_588 · OP · 1 year ago

Any recommendations for module theory and field theory?

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Would anyone know where I can find a PDF textbook on Groups, rings and fields?

Posted by Amazing-Biscotti5231 · in r/learnmath · 2 months ago

Hi, I am a university student and I am looking into groups and rings and I need a text book does any one have any good recommendation or something to leave in the replies?

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Puzzled-Painter3301 · 2 months ago

There's a book by Judson that is free online. https://judsonbooks.org/aata-files/aata-html/aata.html

https://judsonbooks.org/aata/

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my_password_is______ · 2 months ago

> and I need a text book

since you're in university, try the university bookstore

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revoccue · 2 months ago

Dummit and Foote

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iMathTutor · 2 months ago

https://3lihandam69.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/a-first-course-in-abstract-algebra-jb-fraleigh-7ed2003-new.pdf

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Recommendation for Free PDF Courses on Group, Ring, and Field Theories?

Posted by gtk · in r/math · 3 months ago

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math-ModTeam · 3 months ago

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  • Your post appears to be asking for help learning/understanding something mathematical. As such, you should post in the Quick Questions thread (which you can find on the front page of this subreddit) or /r/learnmath. This includes reference requests - also see our lists of recommended books and free online resources. Here is a more recent thread with book recommendations.

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Any introductory abstract algebra books?

Posted by GroverTheGoatWah · in r/mathematics · 4 years ago

Are there any good (prefferably affordable) books about group, field and ring theory for someone who just wants to learn about those?

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IncognitoGlas · 4 years ago

Life pro-tip: every book becomes highly affordable when you use library genesis. But of course I’d never recommend something like that.

Abstract Algebra by Durbin gets recommended by my university. Not brilliant but it likely covers what you’re looking for

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GroverTheGoatWah · OP · 4 years ago

Lmao thanks for the pro tip (and the book suggestion)

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lolpdb · 4 years ago

I study better with a physical book so I recommend A Book of Abstract Algebra by Pinter

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GroverTheGoatWah · OP · 4 years ago

I'll look into it, thanks

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KumquatHaderach · 4 years ago

Judson's text is available free online: http://abstract.ups.edu/download.html

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pidginpoet · 4 years ago

I second this. It’s pretty good for self studying, especially if you’re a beginner. Although, I will say that some of the later chapters, like chapter 11 on the isomorphism theorems, are not the best if you’re seeing this material for the first time. So, if you do manage to get that far with this book, I would suggest referring to a different text for alternative wording of theorems, more examples, etc. if you start feeling stuck.

With that being said, I would still recommend this book for a beginner because it will allow you to get a good general idea of these mathematical objects without being too overwhelmed by them. Dummit and Foote, for example, is not a very good text for a beginner and for self study. It is really more like a reference book, that you might find handy later on, but I really wouldn’t recommend starting with it. I think you’ll feel overwhelmed by it.

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ko_nuts · 4 years ago

As this is basic abstract algebra, there is no need to get a book for that. Lecture notes would do equally well. For instance, look at

https://math.berkeley.edu/~apaulin/AbstractAlgebra.pdf

If you want to go further than that, just let me know.

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GroverTheGoatWah · OP · 4 years ago

You are right, thanks for the pdf (although I really shouldnt click on links sent on the reddit replies lmao), this will help me!

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ko_nuts · 4 years ago

You should not click on links before verifying that they are genuine.

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OneMeterWonder · 4 years ago

Hungerford.

Kidding, of course. What I really meant was Hungerford. He has two books. Try the introductory one.

Another good one is Gallian.

Late undergrad to beginning grad you can try Papa Hungerford, Dummit and Foote, Aluffi, and Lang.

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Special Ring Jokes for our Rings?

Posted by YourLeastFavKernel · in r/mathematics · 4 months ago

Me and my boyfriend are getting custom-made rings and we've turned to r/mathematics for help! We both love algebra, and we've been trying to think of funny ring theory/field theory jokes we could get imprinted on them. Any ideas, lovely people?

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db8me · 4 months ago

I spent a minute thinking about it, but nothing ideal came to mind -- every kernel of an idea just hints at a silly pun or something long and barely comprehensible (e.g. "jokes" about composite algebraic structures).

Hopefully you find some closure or decide on a pretty but meaningful graphical representation.

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SeaMonster49 · 4 months ago

Haha very nice

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SeaMonster49 · 4 months ago

Hey girl, we must have a repeated root in some field extension because we are inseparable

I'm sorry I will leave now...

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SeaMonster49 · 4 months ago

Our relationship is not Noetherian because my love for you will never stabilize

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L31N0PTR1X · 4 months ago

Not sure that's a good implication

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SeaMonster49 · 4 months ago

I think it is! I am implying there can be an infinite ascending chain of love

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andyvn22 · 4 months ago

There's gotta be something in here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BipvGD-LCjU

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itsatumbleweed · 4 months ago

I don't have something for your rings, but one of my favorite jokes is that you can tell Beyonce is a commutative geometer because when she sees something, likes it and puts a ring on it.

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Why do number theory books prove some things rigorously but leave other things "obvious"?

Posted by LawfulnessActive8358 · in r/CasualMath · 4 months ago

I’ve been thinking about something I often see in elementary number theory books. Some results, like basic properties of divisibility, are proved carefully. But more fundamental facts are treated as so “obvious” that they’re not even mentioned.

For example, if x and y are integers, we immediately accept that something like xy^2+yx^2+5 is also an integer. That seems natural, of course, but it’s actually using several facts about integers: closure under multiplication and addition, distributivity, and so on. Yet these are never stated explicitly, even though they’re essential to later arguments. Whereas other theorems that seem obvious to me are asked for their proofs, which creates a strange contrast where I don’t always know which steps I’m expected to justify and which are considered “obvious”.

That made me wonder, since number theory is fundamentally about the integers (with emphasis on divisibility), wouldn’t it make sense for books to start by constructing the integers from the naturals, and proving their basic arithmetic and order properties first?

For comparison, in Terence Tao’s Analysis I, the book begins by constructing the natural numbers, even though it’s about real analysis. And it’s considered okay to take Q for granted and only construct R. Why shouldn’t number theory texts adopt a similar methodology, starting with a formal development of the integers before proceeding to deeper results?

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UnblessedGerm · 4 months ago

I just want to say, regarding mathematics textbooks generally; the author has to economize space and their time spent working. The book needs to be of a reasonable size at a reasonable printing cost and the author usually also has time constraints. Also, the point of the textbook is not to spoon feed everything to you, but to get you through the typically challenging areas and intentionally leaving the rest for the reader to puzzle out for themselves. Ultimately, you have to do math to learn math; you can't absorb it from passive reading and osmosis.

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GoldenMuscleGod · 4 months ago

Presumably the book did spend time showing (or else took axioms or definitions assuring) we have closure under addition and multiplication. It is an obvious consequence of those things that any polynomial in integers is going to be an integer, such that the reader should be expected to be able to do it themselves.

The validity of, say, the Euclidean division algorithm may seem obvious to someone who is used to working with integers, but that it follows from certain other properties of the integers really is not, at least not to someone who doesn’t already have background in commutative algebra. Why does the Euclidean division algorithm work in Z and Z[i], but not in Z[sqrt(5)i]? Is this something that should be explained? How many people reading an introductory book in number theory can prove the Euclidean division algorithm works from given axioms, and identify exactly which axioms are necessary for this result?

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LawfulnessActive8358 · OP · 4 months ago

The Euclidean algorithm is not a good example, it is not that obvious. But, things like "if a|b and b|c then a|c". This is as obvious as "any polynomial in...".

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nerfherder616 · 4 months ago

This problem isn't unique to number theory. Knowing what needs justification vs what is obvious enough to accept is a difficult question to answer. It depends on a lot of things: the field, the audience, the author's preference, etc. It's the kind of thing you do have to pick up as you go. One rule of thumb I use is if I can construct the entire proof in my head with little to no effort, I don't bother writing it down. This doesn't always apply, but it's a starting point.

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axiom_tutor · 4 months ago

There's no time to explain; come with me if you want to live prove interesting theorems.

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ruggeddaveid · 4 months ago

Because otherwise it would be a really long book.

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What book do you recommend for a second read on group theory and ring theory?

Posted by BerenjenaKunada · in r/math · 1 year ago

Hey, this term im finishing my abstract algebra course where we cover group and ring theory. Up until now I've studied from Rotman's Advanced Modern Algebra, Dummit and Foote's and Artin's and I would like to know if you recommend any book maybe harder than Dummit and Artin, to study algebra from.

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JoshuaZ1 · 1 year ago

This may depend on two other things: 1) What are your background levels in connected other areas (e.g. topology, analysis and number theory) and 2) what aspects of group theory and ring theory are you most interested in?

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BerenjenaKunada · OP · 1 year ago

I don't have any experience with number theory, I do have a bit of knowledge on topology and analysys, all of my course are proof based and we've went up to vector calculus and I studied a bit lf topology with a profesor.

I really liked the lecture on free groups and presentations. We have not finished yet with ring theory but so far i really like the argumentos using ideals, for example that a ring mod a maximal ideal is a field. Thanks!

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Selusio · 1 year ago

There's probably a lot of directions you could take.

If you liked free groups, you might be interested in general universal constructions. I'll try to explain the best that I can (sorry if something is imprecise or not very clear). There are "free objects" for a lot of different things: group, algebras, vector spaces and other more "sophisticated" stuff you don't know yet. Despite the differences between these structures, you'll see that the underlying idea is very similar and you can take a unifying approach in term of "universal properties". This could be a very good way to get into category theory, which (in my opinion) can be very dry if studied without a particular reason, but very very satisfying when it's used to gain a certain "unifying" perspective.

I think you might also like commutative algebra, which can have a significant overlap with the previous suggestion.

I don't have specific book recommendations, as my knowledge on these topics come from a lot of different places, mostly lecture notes, and you'll naturally be exposed to these ideas if you keep studying algebra. You can wait for someone to add a book recommendation, or maybe ask your lecturer. They'll probably be happy to hear about your interest and they'll be able to offer other (better) insights about possible topics you might like.

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Own_Distribution_672 · 1 year ago

If you liked free groups and presentations, you might really like geometric group theory! As a plus, it's kind of a young subject so you could contribute sometime soon without learning years of background

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Own_Distribution_672 · 1 year ago

If you want something that ties in with a lot of really cool geometry that you might see soon, I'd recommend "Abel's Theorem in problems and solutions". Links Riemann surfaces and group theory.

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doctorruff07 · 1 year ago

If you are simply looking for harder: Jacobson or Lang are the two id recommend.

If you are looking for a different approach but around same difficulty: allufi

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BerenjenaKunada · OP · 1 year ago

Oh, now that you say it, I was aiming more for a different approach, I'll try Allufi. Thank you

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doctorruff07 · 1 year ago

Allufi: chapter 0 takes the categorical approach. After that I'd highly recommend learning topology then learning the categorical algebra handbook.

You'll learn such cool maths.

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introduction to ring theory books

Key Considerations for Choosing Books on Ring Theory:

  1. Level of Difficulty: Determine whether you are a beginner, intermediate, or advanced student of abstract algebra. Some books are more introductory, while others dive deeper into advanced topics.

  2. Prerequisites: Ensure you have a solid understanding of basic algebra concepts, particularly group theory and linear algebra, as these are often foundational for studying rings.

  3. Examples and Exercises: Look for books that provide plenty of examples and exercises to practice. This will help reinforce your understanding of the concepts.

  4. Clarity of Exposition: Choose books that are well-written and clearly explain the concepts. Good exposition can make complex ideas more accessible.

  5. Supplementary Materials: Some books come with additional resources like solution manuals, online resources, or companion websites that can enhance your learning experience.

Recommended Books:

  1. "Introduction to Commutative Algebra" by Michael Atiyah and I.G. MacDonald

    • Focuses on commutative rings and is highly regarded for its clarity and depth. Suitable for those with some background in algebra.
  2. "Algebra" by Serge Lang

    • A comprehensive text covering a wide range of algebra topics, including ring theory. It's suitable for advanced undergraduates and graduate students.
  3. "Rings, Modules, and Categories" by H. H. Schaefer

    • This book provides a solid introduction to ring theory and modules, with a focus on categorical aspects.
  4. "A Course in Ring Theory" by Robert G. Bartle

    • A more accessible introduction that covers the basics of ring theory with numerous examples and exercises.
  5. "Basic Algebra" by David S. Dummit and Richard M. Foote

    • While broader in scope, this book includes a thorough treatment of ring theory and is well-suited for beginners.

Recommendation: If you're just starting out, I recommend "Introduction to Commutative Algebra" by Atiyah and MacDonald for its clarity and focus on essential concepts. For a more comprehensive approach, "Algebra" by Serge Lang is an excellent choice as it covers a wide range of topics, including ring theory, in depth.

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