TL;DR
Build Quality and Design
Lenovo is frequently highlighted for its superior build quality, particularly in its ThinkPad and high-end Yoga lines [1:3]
[3:2]. These models are favored for their durability and enterprise management capabilities, although some users note that Lenovo's software could improve
[3:5]. Dell laptops, especially the Latitude series, are also recognized for their robust construction and reliability
[3:1].
Performance and Reliability
In terms of performance, Dell is noted for its strong support and reliable hardware, making it a popular choice for both personal and business use [3:5]. HP receives mixed feedback; while some users praise the EliteBook series for its performance and battery life
[5:2]
[5:4], others have experienced hardware issues, such as failing webcams
[3:2].
Price Considerations
Lenovo tends to be more expensive compared to Dell when comparing laptops with similar specifications [2:3]. However, many users are willing to pay a premium for Lenovo due to its perceived quality
[2:1]. Dell often provides competitive pricing, especially during sales, making it an attractive option for budget-conscious buyers
[2:4].
Battery Life and Heating Issues
Battery life and heating are important considerations for laptop users. HP laptops, particularly the EliteBook series, are reported to have good battery life and average heating [5:2]. Lenovo has received criticism for battery drain and heating issues in some models
[5:1], whereas Dell generally maintains a balance between performance and thermal management
[5:3].
Enterprise Use and Docking Solutions
For enterprise environments, Lenovo and HP offer solutions that integrate well with docking stations, though Lenovo's official support for cross-brand docking is limited [3:3]. HP's traditional docking options are appreciated by users who prefer dedicated docks over universal ones
[3:8].
Overall, choosing between Lenovo, Dell, and HP largely depends on specific needs, preferences for build quality, and budget constraints. Each brand offers strengths in different areas, so it's advisable to consider individual models rather than generalizing by brand.
Which brand of laptops are better?
Lenovo is a popular and generally great
Acer scales with investment; the more expensive the better the laptop is overall, cheaper models tends mid
Hp hit or miss but also same with acer scaling with price
Heavily depends. All of the main brands make good and bad laptops, except Apple who only makes high end ones.
I don't know too much about Acer, but both Lenovo and HP make really great laptops, and really bad laptops. Look into their professional and premium lines. Lenovo ThinkPads and higher end Yogas are great. HP EliteBooks, ProBooks, and Spectres are great.
neither. look at specific models, and not brands
Framework
Older p or T series thinkpad
Dell latitude or hp eiltebook/probook
Lenovo is the top dog, Acer’s pretty decent and HP can be a bit tacky.
Just in general, which ones better Dell or Lenovo? Considering they both have same specs, etc. But Dell is cheaper. Which one would you choose?
It depends on the laptop to be honest.
I'm considering dell g15 5530 i9, I've been reading so many people saying Lenovo has better build and quality than Dell, so I'm just confused.
I'd easily pay 10% more for Lenovo over Dell. Might go higher than 10% for that matter.
However, I WOULD buy a Dell. I would never buy another HP or Alienware.
Well in my case, Lenovo is 50-60% higher priced that Dell with same specs. There's a sale on Dell!
Yeah, I'd pay 50% more to avoid HP, but I'd be all over that Dell sale then.
Hey Guys,
which hardware do you buy for your company ? We do a mix of Lenovo and HP. HP Hardware works like a charm but Lenovo isn’t bad. The problem is that I want to use one dock for serveral notebooks. With usb type c we can use hp on Lenovo dockingstations. But it isn’t officially supported. So ist better to go with hp or Lenovo ?
We have had all 3 in the past 5 years. Most recently, we are choosing Lenovo for the build quality. Lenovo's software (driver/firmware) installations leave some to be desired compared to HP and Dell, but it is all still scriptable. Lenovo in general just seems to be a bit behind in the "enterprise management" area, but are actively working to improve that situation.
Most recent batch of HPs we had were generally good, but most of their built-in webcams failed and had to be sent for repair. Never before did we have such a wide issue with camera hardware.
The Dells we had prior to that had both compatibility issues with Dell docks (which they resolved by replacing the docks) as well as rampant battery failures, which we "fixed" by replacing with aftermarket batteries.
When you get right down to it, they are all going to have problems and they are all going to have good aspects. Some batches you get will be fantastic and others you will hate every day you have them. Just the nature of purchasing larger quantities of computers.
As for docks, I finally reached the point where I couldn't take them anymore. They are just terrible in comparison with the laptops themselves, so we literally purchase two video cables (1 HDMI, 1 USB-C to whatever you need) and then get a 4-port USB hub. You get (nearly) all of the same connectivity without needing to deal with bad dock firmware, bad dock hardware (ethernet cards in particular are terrible), and you end up saving a decent amount of money. In addition, these cables/hubs are not vendor specific. You can flip/flop between brands as much as you want as long as they continue to have USB-C and HDMI ports on the laptops. Granted, if you were actually using every possible port on your docks, that may not work, but do give it a thought. The USB-C/Thunderbolt docks just are not as good quality as the mechanical docks used to be.
I am with other commenters here that if possible, pick a vendor and stick it out. You become more accustomed with what they are good at, what they are bad at, and any work you and your team put in in automating installations or managing the equipment can more easily be re-used model after model.
I lean towards dell but have no problems with HP or Lenovo.
As a matter of fact I love HP elitebools because they still offer a traditional laptop docking station.
They phased out their dedicated dock port earlier this year I'm sorry to say. This was one of the main reasons we stuck with EliteBooks for our admin staff.
Bah.
That sucks. I guess the last elite book I ordered for a client was about a year ago now.
I really don't understand the move away from traditional docks. The "universal" ones were always inferior. I get that they function a lot better these days but a dedicated dock is still better IMO.
My company uses Asus, so I can’t speak from direct experience, but I’d recommend Lenovo simply because of the durability of their hardware vs HP or Dell. Users break shit, frequently.
Lenovo for quality Dell for Support HP customer support is lacking
As for Docks, why not go with monitors with integrated dock via single USB-C?
Whatever you pick, stay away from toy and consumer class computers from all three companies. For Lenovo, stick with Thinkpad, for Dell, stick with Lattitude. HP has an equivalent class.
> HP has an equivalent class
ProBook / Elitebook. They're excellent, but you can't find stock right now
Lenovo P620 workstations for staff, Dell R7515 for the dc.
Damn AMD in the datacenter huh? Wanna see more of that!
we use them when we need a lot of cores with not-so-great performances per core.
they just work.
I own shares of HP but have also looked at Dell and Lenovo which also seem to be doing well.
I personally think Lenovo makes the best laptops and it can be seem in their increasing market share. They do however regularly issue new shares but they still pay an increasing dividend.
Dell seems to be making the most consistent high free cash flow but is not paying a dividend.
All of these companies seem to also have quite a bit of debt. I’m still with HP as they have a sort of middle ground of good free cash flow yield and returns to shareholders. Berkshire also buying makes me more confident.
Anything you would like to point out?
Too much competition, no moat sector, low margins, increase in warranty spending, high reliance on low quality services. Im out of the sector.
Apple is the exception.
Hmm good point. You’d still want to buy a HP laptop rather than a brand you’ve never heard of, right? Between HP, Dell and Lenovo it doesn’t matter, whoever makes the best laptop wins. Apple has the strongest brand no doubt. But with commercial users I think it is a big step to change to Apple since Windows is so engraved in most software.
Dell, hp, asus, lenovo, huawei, acer. Next will be xiaomi. Even LG has pc's.
And you have almost 0 brand loyalty since you can have a pc w the same components for almost the same price in any brand.
Thats my take on the sector. I
Yet Asus has the best laptops between HP, Dell and Lenovo :). Best quality of materials and best battery time, which is a result of great hardware and software optimization.
Agree. Sold HPQ when Buffet entered and stock reached my target price area briefly. Just AAPL for me now.
My bet is that Apple will gain significant market share with their M chips. Still under 10% overall
Dell, virtualization and enterprise help them standout and their PC business is strong as always (typed on an Alienware, maybe biased)
Dell
Windows PC makers have terrible margins, tiny moats, and are beholden to Microsoft for future innovations. It's the classic commodity business.
Apple makes the best laptops and it makes most of the profits in the PC market. It's only about 10% of the market in units because it almost only sells over $1,000 units and ignores the sub $700 market entirely. It's average sales price is roughly $1,400 vs. the $500ish that most Windows PC makers subsist at, giving it at closer to a quarter of market revenues. And it's margins are roughly 15%, about three to four times the rest of the market, hence it's net profits are easily over 50% of the market as a whole.
Puts on $HPE
Honestly WTF is HPE doing they're selling buisnesses like DXC and Micro Focus which end up plummeting due to strtural issues when HPE used to run them. Then they turnaround and buy other buisnesses and import the HPE culture yikes.
The biggest mistake ever made at HP was the purchase of Compaq. Carly's plan to double down on low margin PCs was the anthesis of the original HP built on specialized high quality products.
which laptop brand tends to have the least issues and best overall performance among HP, Dell, and Lenovo?
I’m looking for feedback on: • Reliability and durability • Performance for general consulting or tech work • Heating or hardware issues • Battery life
Side note - about to get a new laptop , so want some feedback’s
To be fair, my HP Elitebook works pretty well. 16 months in the system, it has only needed help once. Battery life is good, heating is average, no idea about tech work as I’m not a tech person, and durability is great.
HP is the best. Been using it for 3 years. NP so far (touchwood)
Hey can I use netflix in Accenture office laptop
No
Ask for HP Elitebook as it has a good industrial design.
I have an 840 G1
I hv both HP and Lenovo.. Tbh Lenovo sucks.. battery drains quickly and heats .. HP soo good with performance and battery and don't know abt Dell
I have had this ASUS VivoBook laptop for 2 years and the battery has always been absolute dogshit. It just doesn't last long. Otherwise this ultrabook is really nice. For work (not company laptop) it's pretty alright. But far from "amazing".
Businesses apparently buy those 3 mainly for quality reasons. If you've had "consumer" brands like ASUS and "business" brands like one of those 3, can you go into details on your experiences when comparing the 2? Is the difference really that substantial?
HP? I don't see much love for HP here. Maybe the high spec ones are OK, but personally I won't be risking HP.
Dell, Lenovo or HP. These 3 tend to be bought by companies for laptops etc.
Mantenha distância da Dell. dos três acima citados, os da dell são de longe os piores. Diria até, com a experiência que tive com o G15 e com Inspiron 16 Plus, este último usado na empresa, podem ser simplemente comparados aos positivos, em todos os quesitos: Qualidade de construção, atendimento pós-vendas, design de dispositivo e no quesito durabilidade, tenho mais fé no positivo, pelo menos a expectativa é menor e a frsutração também.
Jamais indicaria a aquisição! foi o maior pesadelo em questão de equipamento....
only the highest of the highest end which are like 2-4 models and that's it.... there's so many hp elitebooks that are busted up in my local fb marketplace in a town w less than 30k ppl that have been sitting there for sale for over a year it's insane. same w spectre, x360, etc...
business laptops. thinkpad l/t/x line, dell latitude/precision, hp elitebook/probook.
Most consumer grade laptops (gaming included) are not going to have great build quality. professional and business laptops are the way to go for excellent build quality and longevity. HP Spectre, Z Book, EliteBook, ProBook, Dell Precision, XPS, Latitude, Lenovo ThinkPad.
Had both a dell xps and an elitebook for work. The elitebook is okayish but crashes a lot. The xps was good, no complaints
I don't think this comment makes a lot of sense. Sure, lower-end laptops may not have the same build quality in terms of materials, but high-end consumer laptops usually match if not exceed that of the professional laptops for build quality and performance. Most of them end up using a lot of the same parts, especially with Dell.
Really? Legions (especially the metal ones) have such amazing build quality. The legion 7i especially feels more durable than anything I've ever picked up
I guess that is the exception
Having used multiple x360s, they suck. The only one that didn't feel like it was going to fall apart was the 13 inch x360 Probook. Bigger and/or x360s just feel really flimsy. Most of them also seem to not be cooled very well.
HP has some of the worst hardware out there, in terms of dependability, design .. they have done some shady shit. In like 2014, they sold a tower desktop with a laptop motherboard inside. Fake expansion slots on the back, no pci or any other ports for cards/expansion inside. You used a laptop power brick as a PSU.. as there was none in the tower. Laptop ram, laptop type CPU cooler.. seriously, a laptop board mounted in an "ATX" style case. Recalls, class-action suits, insane ink prices and policies, HP has had a rough history they haven't learned from yet.
Yet, there is more HP hardware out there in use, than their competition. Granted, Dell and Lenovo don't make printers.
Go figure.
Fuck low end HP. But yes, Lenovo, Dell, and higher end HP's served me better than Acer and Asus
Hello, my organisation currently manages about 150 Laptops from Dell - Latitude 5520's and 5550's. We are looking to replace these with Dell Pro 16 Plus' but given the experience I've had, I want to try another brand and I'm looking at Lenovo and HP.
Just looking for what other people use, how they find the management and what brands you prefer? Sensible to move away from Dell or safer to stay with?
I'm most curious about which is best to manage remotely and via Intune, as we currently use this to manage all our Dells.
Thanks in advance
In my experience Lenovo is the best hardware. Dell's have non stop goofy driver and firmware issues. HP hardware seems the worst. Surface I think is easy to manage but is expensive.
internally the hardware is all 99% the same across all OEM's, it comes more down to case materials /trackpads/batteries maybe..
Lenovo's have always felt like cheap plastic to me across their lines vs the same HP/Dells....
And Lenovo's included malware screw up in their support tool left a very bad taste at the quality of their QA for their software...
I don't know I'd put my ThinkPad up against any HP or Dell for robustness.
Think it depends on what hardware you get. Our Lenovo docking stations and monitors have had the highest failure rate of all our hardware. On the contrary, we mostly use HP ProBook en EliteBook laptops which have been very solid so far.
As for docking stations we switched to the HP G5 and as for monitors to Iiyama. Been very happy with them both!
Agreed, our Lenovo docking stations were funky and always having issues; our Dells were rock solid. Even when they did occasionally break, they just BROKE, no funky intermittent connection issues that were impossible to diagnose like the Lenovos, they just stopped working.
Dell has the best integrations with intune, and the best support. Lenovo is trash on every level (ordering, quoting, drivers, hardware is okay certain models). I’ve not used hp in enterprise, but I’ve seen the hardware and wasn’t impressed
Yeah, we went to Lenovo from Dell. I miss Dell ;(
We went the other way after all our Dell’s started suffering the same sort of, but not identical hardware issues. Lenovo’s have been rock solid for us. I don’t miss the Dell’s at all 😂 (but each to their own otherwise there would only 1 brand 😁)
We’ve had no problems with Lenovo and run hundreds and hundreds of them. Main intune integration headache so far has been printer drivers. But that’s about it.
I've never had issues with Lenovo equipment. Driver updates from commercial vantage have been fine. Driver downloads work well from support.
IMO Dell's biggest advantage is their warranty and repair. I've tried to leave them because I really like Lenovo but shipping in a machine isn't an option for me.
The problem with HP manageability is HPIA. You can't manage it through Intune or GPOs. You've got to roll your own custom script/install/whatever to configure it. Both Dell and Lenovo offer templates for GPO/Intune management.
Anybody got experience with the most recent refresh? Maybe poor souls from IT that had to keep fixing these?
Which one do you prefer, and why?
Lenovo 100%
There is just one choice: Lenovo Thinkpads. As HP and Dell were, are and will always be utter trash.
What makes Lenovo better?
They are not shiny but thinkpads are always more reliable in performance than dell or hp. Same specs, same everything, a decent thinkpand will nearly always perform better than the other crap.
You guys can choose ? They just replaced my 4 years old crappy Dell by a 3 years old crappy Dell
Yes, but not every time. Some years I had no choice, some years I could choose screen sizes, and occasionally I have a few models to choose from.
But I usually also get 4+ years between replacements.
M2 MacBook Pro developer laptop has entered the chat
I got a M1 Max 2 years ago and never looked back to a Windows machine. Hahahaha
Oh. So, so the elites joined. Sadly, we 99% (unwashed masses) only get Windows PC's
Lenovo for sure. I was given a HP recently and while it looks good the Lenovo was a much better machine.
Why? Please elaborate.
Noisy fan, longer to open files, excel and other apps crash more often.
Looking to purchase some laptops for my company but I wanted to see what you guys have gotten for your company right now we use Dell but wanted to see if you guys choose one or another for specific reasons. Let me know your thoughts.
Lenovo makes the best laptops
HP Elitebooks have been amazing for us, very few problems, Dell on the other hand has been a nightmare, my last Dell had the battery bloating up so much it was "clicking" the touchpad by itself lol, drove me mad until I actually saw the whole pc being bent by the battery lol, then I understood. Dell are incredibly noisy and the speakers are trash in addition to all the ither problems
Same here. The HP EliteBook and Probook laptops are excellent, as are the Z-series workstations.
On the other hand, their Zbook line of laptops has been OK, and support is weak (don't get me started), but for those who need more screen and horsepower (unfortunately, the acronym for that is also HP), the Lenovo P17 (Gen1 and 2) have been terrific.
Would avoid HP if possible, their driver management and warranty stuff makes me want to pull my hair out.
We are looking to buy some laptops next year. We are definitely not going with HP. Currently our environment is all HP and so long as the current IT Manager works here I doubt we will ever use them again. We have had nothing but problems with HP. Many different parts failing and around 25-30% of our computers having had a motherboard replacement after just the first 3 years. On top of that their customer service has been just terrible. Maybe this is all just bad luck, but everyone in my department now has a bad opinion of HP.
Nope, we also are never using HP again.
I have worked as a sysadmin managing around 4k HP laptops and we have had a lot of issues with drivers and random motherboard failures.
We mainly have Dell and Lenovo at my current workplace and they have been flawless.
All,
Looking for everyone's opinion on which enterprise class systems you prefer? Currently we are a Dell shop, running the Latitude 7200 2-1, Latitude 5400 and Latitude 5501. All systems have i5, 16GB RAM and 512 SSD's running on Thunderbolt docks.
Thanks
Dell for me, but Thinkpads are bad ass.
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Are you guys using USB-C / Thunderbolt connector style docks? Do you find that the amount of motherboard replacements have gone up since changing over these docks due to the fact of the port being damaged or having thunderbolt controller issues?
At my last job I deployed the regular USB 3 docks from Dell.
Dell hands down.
The laptop quality has really went downhill compared to Lenovo and HP. I’ve been solely buying Lenovo lately and love them.
Everyone rocking G7s at my place and it's been fine. Finding anything on HP website is pure comical. Lenovo is from China so that's a no for many companies.
Dell. Their service tags make support so much easier. Enter service tag on their support site and get config info, drivers, warranty info all in one place.
> Their service tags make support so much easier. Enter service tag on their support site and get config info, drivers, warranty info all in one place.
There is exactly the same feature set for Lenovo.
I like Dell. We mainly use Optiplex 3070 desktops and Latitude 7x00 laptops.
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Are you guys using USB-C / Thunderbolt connector style docks? Do you find that the amount of motherboard replacements have gone up since changing over these docks due to the fact of the port being damaged or having thunderbolt controller issues?
Lenovo laptops hands down. Desktops don’t really matter that much. The keyboard on the Thinkpads is leaps and bounds above Dell and HP.
Latitude 5000 and 7000 series have nice keyboards. 3000 series on the other hand are garbage.
Lenovo vs Dell vs HP laptop comparison
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