TL;DR The M2 chip offers enhanced performance, efficiency, and capabilities for a range of tasks including programming, video editing, and multitasking. It is particularly beneficial for power users and professionals who require robust processing power.
Performance Enhancements
The M2 chip is an evolution of Apple's silicon technology, offering significant improvements in CPU and GPU performance compared to its predecessors. The M2 Max variant, for example, features a 12-core CPU and a 30-core GPU, making it well-suited for intensive tasks like video editing and running complex applications [2]. This makes the M2 chip ideal for users who engage in demanding computational tasks or need to run multiple applications simultaneously.
Efficiency and Cooling
One of the key benefits of the M2 chip is its efficiency. Users have noted that devices with the M2 chip tend to run cooler than older models, which can be particularly advantageous for long work sessions or when using resource-intensive applications [5:1]. This efficiency also contributes to better battery life, allowing users to rely less on external power sources
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Versatility for Various Uses
The M2 chip is versatile, supporting a wide range of activities from basic note-taking and web browsing to more advanced tasks like machine learning model development and iOS app creation [4]. While some users may find the M2's capabilities excessive for everyday tasks, it provides future-proofing for those who might expand their usage scenarios over time
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Comparison with Other Models
When considering whether to choose an M2 device over alternatives like the M1 or even the upcoming M3, it's important to evaluate your specific needs. For many users, the performance difference between the M1 and M2 may not justify the cost unless they are engaging in highly demanding tasks [3:1]. However, for those looking for longevity and the ability to handle future software developments, investing in an M2 device could be worthwhile
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User Experience and Satisfaction
Overall, users have reported high levels of satisfaction with devices powered by the M2 chip. Whether it's for professional use or personal enjoyment, the combination of performance, efficiency, and design makes these devices appealing to a broad audience [5]. However, as with any technology purchase, it's crucial to align the choice of device with one's specific use cases and budget constraints.
Hello! I just got the IPad Pro 6th Gen 12.9 inch with the M2 chip. It’s my first IPad. Apple has slowly been corrupting me ever since I got my 14 inch M1 Pro MBP. I have to ask though, if I’m not doing video editing, is there any way I can actually use this IPad to its fullest potential? I mainly got it for note-taking/school projects and looking to see how I can maximize it’s potential beyond just getting 500 tabs open on Google Chrome.
Just Got my 11 m2, typing currently on it.. this is just a giant phone. Expensive.. like really. There is no excitement at all. I’m actually really disappointed, like everything is just more of a chore. Funny how this is
I have m2 ipad pro, wish I had just bought the m1 because it was alot cheaper and for what I use it for there's not much difference.
I had the choice between a base M2 or a 2TB M1 for the same price (with 8GB more RAM). Easy decision.
I have the ipad pro M1, and very happy with it. Could the M1 do more? Sure. But as it has always been with apple: you don’t buy specs, you buy results. The iPad Pro M1 delivers what I want, so I get my moneys worth. No complaining here.
What results are you looking for lol
For me it had to be a full laptop replacement for regular business work (MS Office, connecting to a range of networks, Remote Desktop), home use (movies, games), coding and interfacing over SSH with Raspberry Pi.
But why care about my use case? Look at what you want to do. If the iPad can do it, it is good otherwise it isn’t. Bitching about M2, or iPadOS or other spec-discussions is just stupid. You don’t buy an expensive device for its specs, but for its use
And then what? Complain about the fact that you've maximized it's potential?
Just use the apps you want and need.
I’m a power user. Joking aside, I’m mainly wondering if there are features I can use to turn the IPad more into a laptop replacement, as the IPad OS seems a bit gimped in that regard.
I think gaming is going to stretch it most of all. For everything I do on my iPad Pro the 2018 chip is sufficient. But let’s be honest it’s the same with the phones. There is very little I do that will ever stretch the chip in my phone. But whatever I do, it’s never lacking power.
My advice is to forget about the fact it’s got more power than you need, just be glad it’s got all the power you’ll ever need for anything you can be doing on an iPad.
If you want something, that’s a lot more like a Mac. I would suggest a Mac. The most Mac-like thing there is.
The Apple 2023 MacBook Pro Laptop with the M2 Max chip is a powerhouse designed to handle your most demanding projects effortlessly. This laptop combines cutting-edge technology with exceptional design to deliver unparalleled performance, stunning visuals, and seamless connectivity, making it the perfect choice for professionals and creatives alike.
1. Unmatched Performance:
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3. Seamless Connectivity:
4. Enhanced User Experience:
5. Seamless Integration with Apple Ecosystem:
1. Superior Performance for Demanding Projects:
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3. Long Battery Life and Fast Connectivity:
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I want to make sure my new macbook can do everything I need as a CS major.
Get m3 it’s a long term investment so for saving just 100$ don’t go for m2
I suggest the m3 air 16gb ram. Thats what i just got as my first mac ever and love it. Plan to do coding or CS/IT/maybe go back to school. Im glad i spent the extra instead of the 8gb base. When you do the math its definitely worth it to know it will do everything you need and last a long time, dat peace of mind. Also resale value
Slight difference. I added a video below to help you choose:
Either of them will be more than enough.
Instead of paying more for a slightly better chip, use that money for something that is really worth to upgrade: RAM
So you should get the M2 16GB model
So I plan to get a personal Macbook as I want to start investing in myself for programming (ML models) / web apps / iOS apps.
I am a software dev at big tech and have an old 2016 mac with an intel processor.
I see the new M2 is amazing for programming, video editing, and photo editing.
I want advice on what are the major factors one would choose to purchase a model over the other based on what I plan to work on. I multitask a lot, so have multiple windows open for googling/programming.
Currently made a chart for specs/price (USD):
M2 Pro 14inch 10cpu,16gpu 32 GB ram, 512 ssd 2400 | M2 Pro 14inch 12 CPU, 19gpu 32 gb ram, 512 ssd 2700 | M2 Max 14 inch 12 cpu, 30 gpu 32 gb ram, 512 ssd 2900 | Macbook Air M2 8 CPU, 10 Gpu, 24gb ram, 512 ssd 1900 |
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Any thoughts on which I should get? Is the 16-inch much better from a programming perspective (I typically connect to monitor to code)? But will travel and use only the screen real estate when necessary.
Coming from a 2016 Intel, those M2 models will both be like going from a Camry to a Ferrari, will you really care if it’s the slightly faster Ferrari?
Even the M1 Pro models are really excellent and easy to still recommend, so if you can find one of those for several hundred cheaper than the comparable M2, go for it.
There is no performance difference between 14 and 16, just the screen and battery size, so that’s a personal decision for you if the extra size, weight, and cost is worth the extra screen size when you’re portable.
Yeah I plan to checkout the 14 inch to 16 inch difference.
I think the base model with 32 gb of ram should more than suffice for many years to come. But wondering if there is any research or links to the more core / GPU cores comparison.
I have a 2022 14" 16/512 GB; using it to write this. Great machine.
But programming is mostly editing text files - any M-chip MacBook will do fantastic at that. Screen size is a matter of personal taste and your vision, so it's hard to make an objective trade off. That said, the physical dimensions and weight can make a big difference in portability. My 14" Pro is only a little bigger than my wife's 13" M1 Air, but the 14" is noticeably heavier, which makes it a little less handy to carry around.
I was surprised to discover that port made a difference to me - my 14" has 3 USB, MagSafe power, HDMI, and memory card ports compared to just 2 USB on wife's Air. In some situations that matters & I am happy to have more because that means I don't need some dongles.
Sounds like for your use, with maybe a lot of applications open, 16GB of RAM, or more would be important. You are smart to look at higher RAM configurations
Hey all!!! Super super pumped. Just ordered my first Apple Silicon MacBook - an M2 MacBook Pro!
I got one in great condition, high battery health, for £600, thought it was steal. I'm one of the few who really enjoys the functionality and novelty of the Touch Bar and noticed this was the final and 'strongest' model that still had it.
I've heard that the processor is better, and the machine runs cooler. Just wondering if any more Apple-tech savvy enthusiasts here could tell me how much I could do on this machine? And what would be my limits? Are there any apps I should install to make my experience better? How good is the battery on these M Machines really? Would it last me a whole day's study? For reference, I'm a student who's got a couple more years of school left and university - a total of 5 years of education - and wanted to get this 2022 model in good condition to hopefully last me throughout? Are the M2 chips strong enough to take me to 2030?
Thank you all for the advice!!! Feel like a kid on Christmas Eve right now.
What course u studying
Hey man, not zoned in one one for sure yet but probably either law or something else humanities-based, leaning into economics! Wanna know if i can finally leave my battery pack at home when i go to school this September…
How many cycles/what battery health is it atm
Not that those same people would read this, but the interesting bit to me is that it dispels any notion of Unified Memory being magically faster or lower latency, because it is after all regular LPDDR, just wired closer to the package (but not on-chip, again a common misconception I still see). In fact, once you spill out of the caches, which yes are pretty good, the main memory latency isn't impressive at all vs AMD or other IGPs
After spilling out of the L2 cache, M2 Pro’s iGPU accesses a system-level cache with a 234 ns latency. DRAM access takes more than 342 ns at the 128 MB test size. Going further sends latency beyond 400 ns, perhaps due to TLB misses. M2 Pro thus has higher DRAM access latency than AMD’s Phoenix, which has similar memory access latency to recent discrete GPUs.
It's not magically faster, but it has much more bandwidth than comparable Intel laptops
They did this with magic? No, but they did
but it has much more bandwidth than comparable Intel laptops
It has identical bandwidth to other LPDDR5-6400 solutions.
I don’t get how that rumor ever started(well I do it’s because people that have no clue what they are talking about talk like they know everything and then people believe them for some reason). The latency over wires to a dimm is at most a couple hundred picoseconds, usually way less. The spec of DRAM you use, your memory controller scheduling and logic, and path from cores to memory controller always will matter a lot more. Yes it helps that the dram is closer but it’s minuscule from the point of view of the system.
3 years after Apple Silicon, people will still argue it with me despite all evidence showing it's just the same bandwidth and latency you get out of the same speed x bit width in LPDDR
Who knows what magic they ascribe to it, like the people who used to say it makes 8GB feel like 16GB, maybe for puttering around it feels faster but if your working set is 14GB that's a hundred percent not true
MCM and Arm are magic as far as people are concerned
I've never even heard the rumor that Apple "Unified" memory is lower latency somehow, does that rumor actually exist? With any at least somewhat widespread adoption?
The only rumor I keep seeing and hearing everywhere - that is just bonkers - states that Apple's memory being shared between CPU and GPU - aka "Unified" - somehow results in the system memory functioning as a higher capacity system memory than it actually is. As in, if somehow 16 GB RAM M-series Apple system behaves effectively as a system that has more system memory than an Intel-series Apple system with 16 GB of RAM and 8 GB of VRAM (on a discrete GPU). When the exact opposite is true for obvious reasons.
LPDDR in most applications is PoPed over the SoC. Is M2 Pro somehow packaging DRAM closer to the die than that?
No, in fact it's packaged beside the die on the same substrate.
Yo you are the Chips and Cheese guy?
Can you test Qualcomm's Adreno GPU architecture please.
Keen to see the follow up whenever they get their hands on the M3 GPUs, as we should be expecting some increase in L1 capacity to service the raytracing hardware.
A question for anyone more familiar with GPU architecture: what limits the latency on the scratchpad memory?
7950X: DDR5-6000, CL32 iirc. Not my system, was set up by Titanic
Phoenix: DDR5-5600 CL46. Again not my system. That's Cheese's laptop.
Zen 4 desktop uses a LGA socket. Phoenix uses BGA. They cannot be the same system.
If you need to code algorithms using metal performance compute shaders OK, otherwise put that money in RAM or storage.
As far i know there is no cryptography tool available yet enable for metal GPGPU API.
How can we know if we don’t know your use case?
Really, it’s all psychological when it comes to these kind of questions. No definitive answer can be provided. But the biggest factor is how much disposable income do you have? A lot? Then get the extra features so you can feel like a bad ass. Are you having trouble paying the rent? Don’t get the extra features. Are you somewhere in between? Only you can decide what will make you happier.
It’s more like what would someone need the extra ram or gpu for since macs are often used for work
My advice is to get the hardware that you need for your software. I made the mistake of buying an m1 macbook pro for just basic office work.
For me, the main upgrade I noticed in the m2 pro was the Wi-Fi 6e. If you have a new wife 6e mesh network, the speeds on the m2 MacBooks are almost double what the m1 MacBook with wifi 6 could pull.
I am hoping for a consumer quantum pc sometime soon
These things are highly specialised equipment used for very specific research fields. It' not something you plop down in your room and run windows on.
I think the issue is that most people think Quantum computers are just super fast computers.
from what I've always understood, they are not superfast in general at a computational level, but hyperfast in certain specific aspects. It's as if it could be a chip used for some things to be placed alongside the CPU, in the same way as a GPU or mathematical co-processors do.
Surely when they will be available to many, they will initially be used for tasks more important than consumer ones. But when they will be cleared for the mainstream, nothing prevents them from also being able to help a home PC in various cases. For example, if you had to play a video game with incredible water physics in engine you could exploit quantum precision and power to recreate something 1:1 with real water without an incredible normal computational effort that could not even reach a thousand times lower and less precise than what a quantum chip would do
It'll be cool to get a consumer version imo
Can we then finally play Crysis on max settings?
I hope so lol 😆 😅
Because I want to factor an integer in polynomial time, duh.
Quantum PC at home? Sign me up! Finally, a new excuse for slow Wi-Fi.
Can it run crysis?
Because it would be cool simple
So he could or couldn't ask this question at the same time
Has anybody come across an actual technical review of the M2 MBP hardware? I don't mean ones which reprint the fluff PR stuff from Apple or run dinky benchmarks, but those who actually analyzed performance of the chip to see if it throttles or under what conditions the fans ramp up. Most so-called review are pretty brain dead.
I posted Notebookcheck’s review of the M2 MBP on the day the embargo was lifted, but it was apparently silently removed (or… something). Post didn’t get a single upvote in 24 hours so I ended up deleting it. So that was… weird. But anyway, check it out, they do a very, very thorough job.
Looking at these results, I think AMD Ryzen 7 6800U has the best balance of software compatibility, power usage, and performance
If the post is stuck at 1 upvote / 100% upvote ratio then it's reddit junkines blocking it in some weird way.
Dave2D
Just wait until LTT or MacAddress releases a video
It took LTT 3 months to do a proper thorough review of the mac Studio. This shit takes time at least a few weeks and anything you see before then you should treat as rushed and potentially inaccurate.
Was it through ? It looked like they still ended up focusing on games or non native apps they usually use for reviews , those are not the reasons ppl buy this product …. But I might be miss remembering the review!
It’s been out less than a day, just chill. They’ll arrive eventually.
And so it begins.....Happy Hunting!
M2 chip features and benefits
Key Features of the M2 Chip:
Architecture: The M2 chip is built on a 5nm process technology, which enhances performance and efficiency compared to previous generations.
CPU Performance: It features an 8-core CPU with 4 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores, providing a significant boost in processing power for demanding tasks.
GPU Performance: The M2 includes a 10-core GPU, which delivers improved graphics performance, making it suitable for gaming, video editing, and graphic design.
Unified Memory Architecture: The M2 supports up to 24GB of unified memory, allowing for faster data access and improved multitasking capabilities.
Neural Engine: It has a 16-core Neural Engine capable of performing up to 15.8 trillion operations per second, enhancing machine learning tasks and AI applications.
Media Engine: The M2 chip includes a dedicated media engine for hardware-accelerated video encoding and decoding, supporting high-quality video formats like ProRes.
Benefits of the M2 Chip:
Enhanced Performance: The combination of a powerful CPU and GPU allows for faster processing and smoother graphics, making it ideal for creative professionals and power users.
Energy Efficiency: The 5nm architecture contributes to better energy efficiency, resulting in longer battery life for devices powered by the M2 chip.
Improved Multitasking: With the unified memory architecture, users can run multiple applications simultaneously without significant slowdowns.
Future-Proofing: The advanced features of the M2 chip ensure that devices will remain capable of handling future software updates and demanding applications.
Recommendation: If you're considering a device with the M2 chip, look for models like the MacBook Air or MacBook Pro, which leverage its capabilities for an excellent balance of performance and portability.
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