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Mortal Kombat 1: Scorpion vs Sub-Zero Strategies

TL;DR Scorpion and Sub-Zero have unique strengths, making them formidable opponents. Scorpion's teleport and mix-ups can be countered with strategic blocking, while Sub-Zero's range and combos require careful pressure and prediction.

Character Strengths and Weaknesses

Scorpion is known for his teleportation move, which can feel almost instantaneous and is a significant part of his offensive strategy. His mix-ups can be challenging to predict, making him a tough opponent [4]. However, his teleport is a high attack, meaning it can be ducked or blocked effectively if anticipated [4:2]. On the other hand, Sub-Zero boasts impressive range with his slide and has easy, safe combos [1:1]. His mix-ups are also difficult to counter, often leading to a guessing game for the opponent [4].

Counter Strategies

To counter Scorpion, gaining a life lead and forcing him to chase you can be effective. Mashing down attacks can prevent him from executing his moves successfully [4:1]. For Sub-Zero, staying out of corners and catching him on whiffs is crucial since he tends to jump and slide frequently [4:1]. Crouch blocking can help against Scorpion's high attacks [4:2], and applying consistent pressure can disrupt Sub-Zero's rhythm [4:3].

Learning Through Practice

Playing as Scorpion and Sub-Zero yourself can provide insight into their moves and combos, helping you anticipate their actions better [4:4]. Practicing in lab mode against AI can also refine your skills and improve your ability to counter these characters [4:6].

Effective Matchups

Some players find certain characters to be effective matchups against Sub-Zero. Scorpion can punish Sub-Zero's iceball with teleport [5:1]. Jade is considered a strong counter due to her ability to control distance and avoid Sub-Zero's 50/50 mix-ups [5:2][5:4]. Geras is another character that matches well against Sub-Zero, providing a balanced fight [5:3].

By understanding the strengths and weaknesses of both Scorpion and Sub-Zero, and employing strategic countermeasures, you can enhance your gameplay and improve your chances of success in Mortal Kombat 1.

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Who Is Better, Scorpion or Sub-Zero?

Posted by [deleted] · in r/MortalKombat · 6 years ago
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I'm a beginner who mains Scorpion and I have gotten a lot better so far, however I always seem to get dominated by Sub-Zero. I have practiced and now have Sub-Zero as a 2nd character in my arsenal, but everytime I'm online I end up picking Scorpion as a Kounter pick and it ends up working. I have a long ways to go in terma of kompeting, but who do you fighting game veterans think would be the better character for me to focus on & master?

Thanks,

Legend

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Mkvgz · 6 years ago

I personally love scorpion because I've always played with him in other MKs but afaik subzero is way better in this one. I think you should aim to play a character you like more than one you play because it's better otherwise you might abandon the game due to not have the affinity and still struggle.

Also https://youtu.be/y6LwAIS6etk had to post it. Lol

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

Hahahaha, I like that

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Th3BigBlue · 6 years ago

Sub zero is probably better because less people know his moveset

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

That is 100% true as well

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

Sub-zero, but scorp is no joke. Scorpion is a bit easier to use tho.

Sub's range with that goddamn slide is insane and his combos are super easy and very safe.

His low kicks and mixups are good as well.

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

Exactly, however I use the tournament variation with the enhanced iceball so I lose the slide however those mix ups

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Anyone have advice to beat the scorpion and sub zero flawless fight

Posted by tyler47781 · in r/MortalKombat · 6 years ago
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Dat_guy696 · 6 years ago

Don't use down or any low abilities poison is all over the floor.

Use the kunai and the tower consumable that boost fire dmg.

Use a character with a cheap anti ai combo since is set on easy, I used Liu kang, some people suggest Raiden with a specific pattern.

Avoid the first missile if you do it right the round should end before the next one appears, alternatively you can remove the missile with the right tower consumable, forgot the name tho.

Be careful with long combos AI swap has invulnerable frames so can fuck things up.

Repeat as much as you need, good luck.

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tyler47781 · OP · 6 years ago

Beat first try, thanks for the advice.

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Dat_guy696 · 6 years ago

Np, glad to help.

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Personplacething333 · 6 years ago

Perfection is key? Stage 7 i think?

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tyler47781 · OP · 6 years ago

Not sure, I already beat it and now I’m on the Kano stage

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Personplacething333 · 6 years ago

Ah i see. Just wait until you get to the brutality every match...literally EVERY match or extra bullshit tower where you have to win with a fatal blow every match and the opponent has infinite fatal blows that do 90% damage. Or the fucking Raiden tower where he does amplified damage and you have 4 different modifiers sending shit that stuns you at you. Fuck the gauntlet and the idiot who approved of it. Everything else is okay.

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EternalEdgeLord · 6 years ago

Armor, Noob, Spam Tackle, Everytime they get close b2.

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tacoball1 · 2 years ago

What's b2?

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Killingjoke1018 · 6 years ago

My AI Scorpion did it with some consumables and few dozen tries.

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Who realistically wins between Scorpion and Sub-Zero? Let’s settle this…

Posted by PlayboiGotty · in r/MortalKombat · 1 year ago
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man_who_likes_slurs · 1 year ago

This may be slightly bias but I feel like scorpion

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Electrical_Use_2588 · 1 year ago

New era probably sub zero unless you really piss scorpion off first, old era then hanzo beats bi Han and kuai liang and Hanzo is anyone’s game

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Ali_ampro · 1 year ago

omg, guys, really? questions like this one are never ends in a good way. Winner will be the one who u love more. Done.

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Averagerdr2enjoyer · 1 year ago

if we're talking about Hanzo vs Bi Han/Kuai Liang then Hanzo wins, if we're talking about Kuai Liang vs Bi Han then Bi Han wins

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Miss_Cavvie · 1 year ago

Can go either way for any versions in any timeline... except 3D era Sub-Zero. Dragons Medallion + Ancestral Armour? Scorpion's cooked

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I'm really struggling against Scorpion and Sub-Zero in KL and I have absolutely no idea what I'm supposed to do against them

Posted by theTRUEchamp · in r/MortalKombat · 4 years ago

Scorpion mostly for that stupid Teleport which might as well be instant, as well as his mixups, and Sub-Zero for his even worse mixups. It's a constant guessing game, and I'm constantly guessing wrong. I have no idea how to deal with these characters and I'm at an absolute loss. What advice can you give me?

I'm also having trouble with Liu Kang, but that one isn't as bad. Still bad, but just not as bad as Scorpion or Sub-Zero.

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firsttimer776655 · 4 years ago

Scorpion’s teleport is very telegraphed; unless your opponent is constantly cancelling become cosy with the block button. Sub Zero is more of a guessing game admittedly; you need to keep applying pressure and if you do fall into the 50:50 trap look for a pattern.

What character are you playing??

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NotSoSeriousNick · 4 years ago

To add to this, crouch block. Scorpion's teleport is a high as you should be able to duck it, same with his spear. EDIT: like a moron I typed mid when I meant high

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Fatal_Blow_Me · 4 years ago

They are highs not mids

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theTRUEchamp · OP · 4 years ago

Mostly Kano this season, though I also main characters like Geras and Shao Kahn.

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OnaPaleHorse80 · 4 years ago

Take them on yourself- i mean play as them. Learn their main kombos. That's the best way to beat any character tbh. Once you know their moves and when the strings end you get a better feel for when to block and when to counter attack.

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JaxUpTheJam · 4 years ago

Can you post some footage of you fighting those chars? That would really help in giving you proper advice on what you might be doing wrong.

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[deleted] · 4 years ago

Try to lab in practice mode against the AI... it will help you alot

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chiefranma · 4 years ago

for scorpion the most important part is to get the life lead and then make him chase you then i like to play a little game and mash down 1 because he literally can’t do anything except try to jump on you subzero is a little more difficult but just make sure you can stay out the corner and try to catch him on whiffs cuz they love to try and jump on you to enforce their mix so try to bait them to jump and slide when they can’t get in other than that yeah it’s just guessing and letting them punish theirselves

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Who’s the best matchup against sub zero?

Posted by InsufficientLoad · in r/MortalKombat · 6 years ago
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Zed_Beta · 6 years ago

I've played a fair bit of sub and the only characters I don't like playing are Jade and Jax. Jax might be personal but Jade feels like a losing match up.

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DankensteinPHD · 6 years ago

I play New Era Geras and consider it a blessing every time an opponent plays Sub against me. It's a really fair matchup for Geras.

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TheBestPeter · 6 years ago

Jade tends to own him. His 50/50s can be death, so your best bet is to stay on the other side of the screen for as much if match as you can.

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darc-jino · 6 years ago

Good tip.

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

I think Fire is good against ice. Grass might be good as well. Been a while since I've played so memory hurts.

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Vaiist · 6 years ago

You might think that, but for some fucked up reason (according to the movie) you beat ice with water lol.

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BRENBREW0307 · 6 years ago

Scorpion works. He has to come to you and if he tries to throw out an iceball, you can react and punish him with teleport.

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Can't choose between Sub Zero or Scorpion in MK1

Posted by BrobaFett2 · in r/MortalKombat · 2 years ago
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The new MK1 game is looking GREAT, especially the cast, and I really wanna get it (Once I get bored with MK11 and MK1 is cheaper) but 1 thing is putting me off: Who do I choose?

MK1's Sub zero's moveset is looking really nice, especially with more of the use of spears but he's Bi-Han and I prefer Kuai Liang.

MK1's Scorpion is Kuai Liang but I don't have a soft spot with him as much as Sub Zero (I've known Subby since when I was a child) and wish he was Tundra instead.

I'm definietly gonna play the other characters like Kenshi, Havik and maybe Liu Kang but between the 2 "ninjas" I don't know who to choose.

(Also I'm new to the MK series, played a bit of MKX and currently playing MK11l

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

Personally going with Sub-Zero just because of the way he says "Shang TSOONG" in his intros.

Fr tho I have yet to see how Scorps play but Bi-Han has been really fun in the beta.

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BrobaFett2 · OP · 2 years ago

I wonder why they're hiding Scorpion's moveset...

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qa3r · 2 years ago

They showcased his moveset during one of the Kombat Kast. I think they aren't showing him due to the lore implications he might have for the story. Also the other main cast characters seems to have more deviations compared to Scorpion. I wished they did show some more matches with him at least.

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Altnumber907 · 2 years ago

They did a kombat cast with scorpion, one of the first characters they showcased

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Ronburgundy2099 · 2 years ago

I always choose Subzero with Scorpion as backup but this time I also am conflicted since Scorpion is now Kuia Liang.

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bigizibiri · 2 years ago

I never even knew who Kuia Liang is to begin with! At least not untill the release of MK1 lol

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Personplacething333 · 2 years ago

Scorpion because it's Kuai Liang and he's goated

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Waffles_four_you · 2 years ago

Why choose when I can take them both at the same time 🤭🤭🤭

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BrobaFett2 · OP · 2 years ago

I COULD do that but who first then? Its really making me conflicted

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kickchewassgum · 2 years ago

You mean with one as a cameo right?

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bigizibiri · 2 years ago

Haha! Omg. This is doing something to me…. And I don’t have the word for it lol

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SuRaKaSoErX · 2 years ago

Sub-Zero is so much fun in this game so I’m starting with him. Scorpion also looks super sick, so he’ll be high on my list.

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Scorpion ou Sub-Zero ?

Posted by Saboneti-em-po · in r/perguntas · 4 months ago
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Qual escolha você fez e agora tem que sustentar pro resto da sua vida?

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Justa-Useless-L-ife · 4 months ago

Sub Zero.

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giudevilqueen · 4 months ago

sub zero sempre

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Huge_Run_5434 · 4 months ago

Sub pq o ataque magia básico é mais maneiro

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Lucitown · 4 months ago

noob

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Dark_Inclined · 4 months ago

Sub-zero "Eu congelo o seu inferno... Su-su-sub zero."

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The 1995 Mortal Kombat movie will always sit in my heart. I just wish their rivalry and battle were shown...

Posted by Smokestorm95 · in r/MortalKombat · 1 month ago
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Like In the original Mortal Kombat (1992) video game, Scorpion’s real name was unknown and he killed Sub-Zero in the first tournament. It was also revealed he had a wife and child before his death.

I totally understand that the 1995 film was focusing more on characters like Liu Kang, Sonya, Johnny Cage, and Raiden - I just wish the 1995 film adopted a similar concept to the 1992 video game in Scorpion and Sub-Zero’s rivalry even as a side story than just mere slaves under Shang Tsung.

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Clemtwdfan · 1 month ago

"Scorpion and Sub Zero...DEADLIEST of enemies...mere slaves under my powers!" - Shang Tsung

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WhirlWindBoy7 · 1 month ago

Shang Tsung mentions their rivalry and how they're slaves under his control for the tournament.

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Terrible-Locksmith57 · 1 month ago

If you wanna see their rivalry in live action, you have MK Konquest.

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ThePringlesCanD · 1 month ago

Or mortal Kombat 2021 since it’s literally the only thing that movie does right (despite Scorpion only being in the beginning and ending of the movie)

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Terrible-Locksmith57 · 1 month ago

MK legacy has a great begining story for the rivalry.

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charles_barfley · 1 month ago

Or the animated movie from the 90s

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SaikouKiller · 1 month ago

It's an hour and a half long movie, what would you have cut out to focus on their rivalry?

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sharkezzy · 1 month ago

Deadliest of enemies.. But slaves under my power

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SaikouKiller · 1 month ago

So the Rivalry between Scorpion and Subzero would replace the 3 minutes that fight takes?

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Sub Zero is officially more annoying than Scorpion

Posted by dickheadthrowaway555 · in r/MortalKombat · 6 years ago

After playing enough KL, I can know see that I dread playing against sub Zero more than scorpion.

Scorpion players are just noobs, plain and simple. Take a little bit of practice to know how to get 2 flawless matches against them.

Sub Zero same shit, but it’s a little different. There are 2 types of players. Jumping players, and 2 kombo using players.

Lame as hell

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

Sub's 50/50 are a lot more menacing than Scorpion overall

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TheBestPeter · 6 years ago

Does Sub Zero have a third combo? What are all these other things you’re expecting them to do?

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W0NDERxxBREAD · 6 years ago

you cant let hin get his offense staryed. use ranged pokes to keep him back. always expect forward throws when your teching. always be ready for him to stagger his combo. he used to be annoying af for me too but i think ive washed the last 6-7 ive fought

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cavemold582 · 6 years ago

Well he kinda limited what he can do

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

On the one said sub zero has only two major combos in his tournament form so he’s stuck repeating them

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any tips to deal with scorpion in MK X?

Posted by Savings_Cow5844 · in r/MortalKombatX · 2 months ago

I play with a friend, the bastard beats me in 6 out of 10 matches. He uses Scorpion. I mostly use Sub Zero, the Cryomancer variant. I don't know how his katanas connect so much. If you get careless, he'll spam you 3 times, followed by the type of trip that Scorpion has, which takes away a lot of health. I can defend myself with some mini-combos, but they don't generate enough damage. If I take cover, he uses enhanced teleport or enhanced katanas. I also feel like Sub Zero has very little range on his hits; I literally need to be right next to him to connect. You know, when it comes to friends and in these games, you don't like the fact that you lose (sometimes). I sometimes use Clone (Grandmaster variant), but I run out of combos in the middle of the arena. I have to corner him to damage him.

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redditmanwomanguy · 2 months ago

Ninjutsu is amazing at whiff punishes and overhead low mixes

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RonThePadawan · 2 months ago

Block and punish

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ChadLad8 · 2 months ago

Sub zero clone is a counter to scorpions teleport, if you make a clone and then ice slide before scorpion can teleport then you can punish and freeze scorpion

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Mortal Kombat 1 Scorpion vs Sub-Zero strategies

Key Strategies for Scorpion vs. Sub-Zero in Mortal Kombat 1

Scorpion Strategies:

  1. Teleport Punch: Use Scorpion's teleport punch to close the gap quickly. This can catch Sub-Zero off guard, especially if he’s trying to zone you with ice projectiles.

  2. Fireball: Utilize Scorpion's fireball to pressure Sub-Zero from a distance. It can disrupt his ice attacks and force him to react.

  3. Mix-Ups: Scorpion excels at mix-ups. Use a combination of high and low attacks to keep Sub-Zero guessing. His fast normals can help you maintain pressure.

  4. Punish Ice Moves: Be ready to punish Sub-Zero's ice moves. If he whiffs an ice blast, you can capitalize with a combo.

Sub-Zero Strategies:

  1. Zoning: Use Sub-Zero's ice projectiles to control space. Keep Scorpion at a distance and punish any attempts to rush in.

  2. Slide Attack: Sub-Zero's slide can be effective for punishing Scorpion's attacks. Use it to evade and counter when Scorpion is too aggressive.

  3. Freeze Setup: If you can land a freeze, follow up with a combo. Use your ice attacks to create openings for damage.

  4. Defensive Play: Sub-Zero can play defensively and wait for Scorpion to make a mistake. Use block and counter techniques to punish Scorpion’s overcommitments.

General Tips:

  • Spacing: Maintain good spacing to avoid getting caught in Scorpion's close-range attacks.
  • Adaptation: Be ready to adapt your strategy based on your opponent's playstyle. Both characters have tools that can counter each other effectively.
  • Practice Combos: Familiarize yourself with your character's combo strings to maximize damage when you get openings.

By focusing on these strategies, you can enhance your gameplay and improve your chances of winning in a Scorpion vs. Sub-Zero matchup.

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