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Reasons for Tokyo Ghoul's Decline in Popularity

Deviation from Source Material

A significant reason for Tokyo Ghoul's decline in popularity is its deviation from the manga. The anime, particularly after the first season, strayed considerably from the original storyline, leading to dissatisfaction among fans who were familiar with the manga [1:1][2:1]. This deviation resulted in a confusing narrative that left many viewers puzzled, especially those who hadn't read the manga [5:2].

Pacing Issues

The pacing of the anime was another critical issue. After the first season, the series became rushed, skipping over important plot points and condensing entire arcs into brief moments [4:8][5:3]. This rapid pacing made it difficult for viewers to follow the story and develop connections with the characters, contributing to the overall decline in quality [1:3].

Character Development

The character development in the anime was perceived as lacking compared to the manga. Kaneki's transformation and depth were not adequately portrayed, leading to criticisms about his character being assassinated in later seasons [2:2]. The anime failed to capture the psychological complexity and emotional depth that the manga offered, resulting in a more superficial portrayal [1:2].

Art Style and Adaptation Quality

Many fans believe that the manga's art style is superior and that the anime adaptation did not do justice to the source material [4:2][3:5]. The anime's inability to replicate the raw and powerful imagery of the manga contributed to its decline in popularity. Some fans hope for a reboot that could potentially address these issues and provide a more faithful adaptation [4:6][3:9].

Potential for Remake

Despite the decline in popularity, there is still interest in a remake of Tokyo Ghoul. Fans believe that a faithful adaptation could be successful, especially given the current demand for anime with epic moments and strong visuals [3:1][3:3]. However, concerns remain about whether the series can regain its former hype outside of its existing fanbase [3:4].

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Why do people say that the Tokyo Ghoul anime is not good?

Posted by ArsaNamikaze · in r/Animesuggest · 5 years ago
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I was watching Tokyo Ghoul and I found out that people hate on it a lot, Im only on the first season but I'm wondering if its worth the watch?

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Plan4Chaos · 5 years ago

Because it started as a solid 10/10 psychological drama, but after just a few episodes it transformed into rather superficial and childish action show. I felt immense disappointment off the twist.

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

S1 is pretty good. S2 is okay but deviates from the manga. :re is a complete trainwreck, though there are some decent moments towards the end of :re S2. With :re you won't know wtf is going on without having read the manga or a synopsis. If you're just in it for the fights and moments of intense drama, you'll still be okay though. Mostly.

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ArsaNamikaze · OP · 5 years ago

Do you recommend reading the manga and then watching the anime?

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pencils_down · 5 years ago

Highly recommend reading the manga from the begining even if you've seen episodes already. I've read the manga and am honestly not even slightly interested in the anime because the manga is so fulfilling on its own. I don't want to watch any anime that's gonna skew the story at all.

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PaiN97 · 5 years ago

Because after season 1, they deviate from the manga. And that makes it comparitively not good enough. Even anime only watchers seem to think the later seasons aren't as good as season 1, mostly due to the bad pacing.

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ArsaNamikaze · OP · 5 years ago

I've decided to just read the manga now, should I even bother with the anime after reading?

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PaiN97 · 5 years ago

imo it's not worth your time. I hope we get to see some sort of reboot of the anime in the future.

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

Personally, I liked it but ive just found it to be a little edgy and the fans to be a little over the top, but overall its a solid show

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[deleted] · 5 years ago

It's good but it's really edgy and it does a poor job of telling the story as a whole, it jumps around a lot and leaves entire characters out

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I recently watched Tokyo ghoul

Posted by Iplayassasinscreed3 · in r/TokyoGhoul · 1 year ago

I cannot stress how much fun I was having watching the anime. All through season one I was just watching and enjoying happy as can be, onto season 2 and I couldn't wait to see how this was going to go I only gained interest. And then. I got hit with a wave of dogshit. I'm being honest, from the deepest depths of my being, whoever decided to make Tokyo ghoul:re should never be allowed to touch a writing implement for the rest of their existence. When I saw the first episode, it was the calm before the storm. I was confused in a haze of shit particles, the thin mist veiling the downpour that would soon follow. At the reveal of who sasaki is I just turned off my phone and layed down, my brain trying to comprehend what could drive someone to let the story go in this direction. I felt genuine anger, as my mind could not fathom how far this series fell from grace. I watched one more episode and I was done, my excitement gone as if it had never been there and here I am now to ask anyone who's still reading this, do I keep watching? I must know, does it get better? Is everything that was built up for naught as the character that was curated, to be a badass killer made nothing more than a sentimental tool? 20 minutes after starting to think, and 10 minutes after starting to write this I just want some feedback. TLDR: I'm not writing a TLDR just read what I wrote

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minezum · 1 year ago

the character that was curated, to be a badass killer made nothing more than a sentimental tool?

Kaneki was never the badass killer the anime shows in season 2. He is and was always a sentimental deep down, even after he was kidnapped by Aogiri. The character assassination you talk in your other comment happened in season 2, not season 3.

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glue--eater · 1 year ago

Just read the manga instead. The anime is ass.

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Iplayassasinscreed3 · OP · 1 year ago

I'll try it although I'm a little tired of manga because I just read tower of God and solo leveling

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777Sike0 · 1 year ago

They’re going to downvote you into oblivion if you call it ass. Happened to me once and i thought we were all on the same page.

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Forsaken_Style7003 · 1 year ago

Tbh I don't get how you were happy before Re. Anime sucked as a whole

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Iplayassasinscreed3 · OP · 1 year ago

I enjoyed the concept

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Forsaken_Style7003 · 1 year ago

Imo you should either read the manga, or check out it's ending before continuing to Re. Since you enjoyed the concept I think you might actually like Re more than the original as it expands the universe

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777Sike0 · 1 year ago

Your first mistake was WATCHING it and not READING it.

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DragonGodBasmu · 1 year ago

Ah, I can see how you would dislike :re so much, but there is an easy explanation for this. Season 2/Root A does not follow the source material and completely deviates from the original story. Then :re follows the proper canon without reconciling the changes made in Root A, thus confusing the people who only watched the anime.

You may think that :re assassinated Kaneki's character, but it is backwards; Root A assassinated Kanekis character, along with skipping over important plot points, like why Kaneki lost his memory. As another commenter said, Kaneki was never supposed to be a "badass killer," he was never supposed to >!join the Aogiri Tree, he was supposed to form his own group while investigating the doctor who turned him into a ghoul.!<

I suggest you read the manga to see where the anime went wrong with everything.

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Do you think a remake would be successful?

Posted by LK82Q · in r/TokyoGhoul · 2 months ago

Personally, I think so. We are in a time where people grab any anime out of desperation. I'm not saying that current works are bad, but it is very noticeable that works become famous that only generate epic moments.

And Tokyo Ghoul was successful in its time precisely because of that (at least its first season), what is now known as aura, and cringe edits. Tokyo Ghoul is full of shonen clichés that made it pass as a shonen for pierrot, and much of the audience were teenagers.

Now, if this were to be re-released, I'm sure people would say, "Hey, it's that series we saw in 2014, it was cringe, but the fans keep saying how good the manga is, and this is a faithful adaptation, I'm going to watch it." Or "The protagonist has a lot of aura, let's do more edits but with better animation and without censorship."

There would be people over-analyzing it as it deserves, there would be people saying that it is a masterpiece, there would be people saying that it is much better than other anime, there would be many more memes.

I truly believe that if the anime had been much more faithful (and had not had worse animation than hentai), it would have been as successful as Attack on Titan is today. The first season worked well precisely because it met (to some extent) those two requirements.

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ANewPrometheus · 2 months ago

Definitely. Tokyo Ghoul is probably one of the most well known "fall-offs" in recent anime. In 2014, Tokyo Ghoul was like THE anime that year. By 2018, when the anime ended, very few were still following its releases.

Tokyo Ghoul fans are also probably the #1 community that praise the manga so most people know that a faithful adaptation would go hard. I have a feeling it wouldn't get popular with the shounen Solo Leveling zoomers immediately, but it would still be very successful, especially if they get TK to do some of the Openings again.

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LK82Q · OP · 2 months ago

Are you sure it wouldn't be a good fit for the zoomers? It has blood, epic fights, cool character designs, and would HYPOTHETICALLY have good animation. These are the essential factors why Jujutsu Kaisen, Solo Leveling, My Hero Academia, Demon Slayer, and other anime have been successful.

The only thing it would be missing would be a more visually cool power system, I love the whole Tokyo Ghoul power system, but people want characters that can destroy buildings and generate gigantic explosions.

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bestbroHide · 2 months ago

Their point is that it might not be immediately popular but will inevitably reach that point, which is somewhat valid but not entirely

It's valid if we're anticipating such reactions to the most impatient and juvenile of zoomers. In a perfect adaptation, Kaneki only becomes "super cool" over 20 episodes in, at the end of a 2 cour 1st season. We don't wait that long in JJK, SL, KnB; only MHA is similar in that regard and that is coincidentally the one anime of all that was listed that had enduring sentiments about "how much of a crybaby the main character is" even long after Deku was already popping off

However, it's invalid in the sense that impatient juveniles aren't necessarily an exclusively zoomer thing. Even with TG fans during the manga's heyday, there's a reason why early :re was initially met with some "yawn who cares about these new characters and Haise, where's the OG and Kaneki" criticisms, and only much later down the line did that era get treated with the respect it always deserved. Don't even get me started with the batshit insane discourse surrounding :re 143, proving Uta's claim 143 chapters earlier relating to how the average person just doesn't like main characters who fail (ingenious how Ishida set up that anticipated reaction that far back lol)

Impatience is just inherent in the manga/anime community. TG got less of that for the simple fact it attracted a relatively older audience, but they still got some of that regardless. "Aura farming" is only a "new" thing insofar as creating a specific term for something weebs have always been obsessed with dating decades ago

However, quality almost always gets its due flowers, even if it's late. A TG remake if properly adapted won't just do fine, it would thrive, and garner the same level of appreciation as an AOT or a Vinland Saga

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Jgail32 · 2 months ago

At this point, I really don't know. Toyko Ghoul was at it's absolutely peak in popularity around 2014-2015, and yet, for how massively popular it was then, it really isn't discussed too much outside the already existing circles. I love the series with all my heart, but from the perspective of a company who wants to make a profit, I just don't know if there's that much hype surrounding the series from an outside point of view.

I'm trying to think of who else would really be pushing the series if it was remade besides the diehard enthusiasts and the inevitable group of people coming in from that sweet sweet 2014 nostalgia. It would really have to be a hail mary bet it all move to remake the series now because there really isn't any numerical indication that the series has anywhere near the amount of fans as it did back then

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WorozuTop4 · 2 months ago

maybe, but something i think a lot of people overlook when talking about wanting remakes is the art style. maybe this is just me personally, but tg is borderline carried by its art, not that the stories bad- just that the art is that good imo. ishida is really good at creating really raw/powerful images in the right moments and i just cant ever imagine it fitting well in an animated format, assuming there are any studios who are able to replicate his art style with consistent quality in the first place.

i guess thats the downside of the series having more detailed art lol, kind of a berserk situation

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LK82Q · OP · 2 months ago

That's exactly what I said, that popularity comes through the eyes. And the first two seasons were successful (the second, not so much because the story was trash). I'm not saying I want an artistic style like the first two seasons, but if it's better than that, it would be enough for people to watch it. And Ishida's style I think could be imitated to a certain extent, I don't know if it would look better than the manga, but I'm sure that most of the time it could be matched, what I'm saying is that even if it doesn't look better than what Ishida did it would still do well, although I would prefer them to stay faithful.

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IcyResponsibility429 · 2 months ago

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Can they just replicate what the manga looks like it doesnt have to have good animation it has to have good art style the kagunes gotta look decent the vas gotta be the same but one more thing the animation gotta look dark simple and plain like jjks s2 or vinland sagas it would be perfect and some scenes should be reused from the original anime but with a few tweaks like the animation thing i just said.Also the gif i sended they gotta replicate it with the animation thing

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maresso · 2 months ago

I mean, the first adaptation actually skipped essencial parts of the story to the point it actually looks like an editing mistake. It's like they have a director's cut somewhere hidden within Pierrot studios and they can't release It for whatever reason. It's really laughable.

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Unfair_Jackfruit5624 · 2 months ago

I hope I get to see a remake before I die. Otherwise, I'm just gonna have to wish for 1 when I get to heaven :(

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Fast-Baseball-1746 · 1 month ago

make the remake yourself before yo udie

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Is Tokyo Ghoul just a bad adaptation or a bad anime overall?

Posted by No-Discount-4981 · in r/animequestions · 6 months ago
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I've seen a lot of hate for this anime, and I was wondering, is it really that bad? would someone like me, who never interacted with Tokyo Ghoul before enjoy it? I'm not a big manga guy so I never read it, should i just bite the bullet and read the manga?

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Reddeater_ · 6 months ago

horrendous adaptation, manga is too good.

If you are intrigued by tokyo Ghoul and tokyo Ghoul;re then read the manga. It got great art style too.

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rammux74 · 6 months ago

Bad adaptation, peak manga. Read the manga and ignore the existence of the anime

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New_Statistician1002 · 6 months ago

The first season was good but later seasons they rushed it very much. Reading manga is way better

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Yandere_Matrix · 6 months ago

Yeah, is it true they skipped over 100 chapters in the anime?

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New_Statistician1002 · 6 months ago

I haven't really compared in detail but when I read the manga I noticed that they missed so many things. So maybe

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Ainz-SamaBanzai41 · 6 months ago

Yes. They would condense entire arcs into a single throw away line.

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Mrbluefrd · 6 months ago

They did?

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KingAlphaOmega87 · 6 months ago

Terrible adaptation. We need a reboot

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mandonbills_coach · 6 months ago

Bad adaptation. Season 1 was pretty good everything went down the drain after that. It was too rushed and everyone I know into Tokyo ghoul has said just read the manga the anime doesn’t do it justice

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Is it really THAT bad?

Posted by FizzSeven · in r/TokyoGhoul · 4 months ago

I haven’t watched the anime yet, only small clips of it on YouTube or TikTok—usually the Jason clips.

The more I try and see if watching the anime is worth it, the more comments I see that just tell people to read the manga. I’m not an avid reader of manga, and I prefer watching anime so much more.

Should I just not pick up Tokyo Ghoul? Is the anime really that bad?

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TheMikarin · 4 months ago

Main issue is it gets very confusing for anime-only viewers in later seasons. Season 2 in particular made some major changes to the story and skipped some important plot points which set up the plot for season 3, and then season 3 doesn't adjust events to fit the changes season 2 made and doesn't explain anything. The pacing is also quite rushed, it's hard to keep track of things later on when there are so many characters and events happening (on top of the actual continuity issues making things confusing).

Despite the issues though, if it's a choice between watching the anime and not checking out the series at all, then I'd say watch it. While I strongly recommend the manga over the anime, if you absolutely refuse to read the manga then give the anime a watch.

Side note: For the anime-only watch order I recommend: Season 1 -> Tokyo Ghoul Jack -> Season 2 -> Tokyo Ghoul Pinto -> Season 3 (keep in mind unofficial sites split season 3 into two separate seasons). Jack and Pinto are OVA episodes, they might be listed as their own season depending on the website.

The OVAs are prequels to the main story, but they introduce characters that appear in the main story and watching them at those points should help things more enjoyable when they do appear. Plus it also helps space out the seasons enough so you feel a bit of the break between events that viewers had when they were airing without actual taking a break from watching.

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idontlikeburnttoast · 4 months ago

Yes. The reasons?

S1 is fine.

Season 2 was meant to develop the main plotline and the main characters and build the correct bonds. None of that happened and essentially nothing really happened in s2 except a load of overly dramatic and non-emotional scenes.

Then season 3 assumes you learnt all that and a bit more and assumes the mangas timeline again despite season 2 changing so many original event. Theres literally a flashback scene to a major plotline that only happened in the manga.

And then s3 cuts so much content anyway. The main plotline isnt even told to you and you dont understand what the main plotline even was or why things happened or people were alive.

Do NOT watch the anime. It's just a bunch of animation with no story.

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Oblivion_3101 · 4 months ago

It’s pretty damn bad in comparison to manga like entire seasons worth of chapters were left out and they said screw the source material let’s do our own thing yet tie into endgame situations without the build up of the manga but you could enjoy it as it’s own thing if you’d like.

The anime gets a bit edgy at times however.

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LocalGuardianAngel · 4 months ago

The anime is bad from a manga perspective, the anime is okay in my opinion. I was OBSESSED with it when I was younger

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cryingegg · 4 months ago

same i feel like it’s nostalgic for me which is why i like watching it. i did like reading it too.

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Majestic-Onion0 · 4 months ago

Season one is pretty solid, most fans will agree on that. You lose some of the nuance from the manga, but not too much. Season 2 they changed a major plot beat but still did all the events from the manga. It's very weird and frankly pretty garbage. The fights are still neat, but the story is barely comprehensible. Season 3 picks back up, but it's not pretty out there in terms of content. Lots of new plots beats come and go so fast you sometimes end up wondering what any of it was for. If you want to experience the story of Tokyo Ghoul, the manga is probably the way to go, just be warned that the manga art is...busy.

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PicolasCageEnjoyer · 4 months ago

That last sentence is too real 😭 my first read through had me rereading pages about 5 times before I got what was going on

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Why I Hate Tokyo Ghoul Season 3 (SPOILERS)

Posted by Enough-Highlight-378 · in r/TokyoGhoul · 1 month ago
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>!I started watching Tokyo Ghoul 5 days ago and really enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2. the emotional ending of Season 2 especially hit hard. But Season 3 was a huge disappointment. Right from Episode 1, everything felt off: the art style changed, characters looked different, Kaneki forgot his past, joined the CCG, and seemed much weaker. Detective Amon one of my favorite characters wasn’t even mentioned in Episode 1, which was heartbreaking. I know some people will say “read the manga,” but after these changes, I’m just not interested. Honestly, I’d tell new viewers to stop at Season 2, Season 3 ruins the experience.!<

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maximo20057 · 1 month ago

Thing is, season 2 skips the actual event that makes season 3 make sense. Since it doesn't happen, the timeskip (and so the artstyle change to justify it) feels really odd. There's a reason why people say that the anime is trash, and that is what you just experienced

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Otherwise-Ad1646 · 1 month ago

More than one really. I'm assuming you mean>!Arima stabbing Kaneki in the fuckin brain!<but there are a bunch of others, like >!Hide having no face due to being shot in the gut or something.!<

Dammit season 2, why'd you have to make no sense AND fuck up season 3? I know, manga deviation, but boooo.

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No_Measurement_2119 · 1 month ago

Nah they went a little further than just a little manga deviation the basically completely changed the story and even the way some characters act in season 2; but honestly I don’t hate it like other people do I just see it as a what if kinda story seeing what would happen if different choices were made

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Fireball_Q2 · 1 month ago

read the manga anyways. 

every single problem you mentioned is not a problem in the manga. season 2 is completely anime-original, but instead of having the stuff after season 1 come after season 2, it was just replaced.

season 3 then picks up where what should have happened in season 2 left off, except they never explain how they got there.

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Mahad_Dareshani · 1 month ago

That's the thing tho, s2 never happened, what you watched was filler this whole time. So now that you're back on canon you have no idea what happened.

...read the manga lol. I'd tell new viewers to just stop at s1 and read the manga from the start cuz while s1 is still pretty meh by comparison, it still is the good adaptation.

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Dreaxus4 · 1 month ago

I would say that it's best to just read the manga from the start, only watch the anime after having read the manga. If season 1 hadn't left out a lot of things that end up being really important in the second half, then I would recommend season 1. As it is, you pretty much need to read the first half even if you watched season 1 because it left too much out.

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Mahad_Dareshani · 1 month ago

Yea i agree. I said that as someone who's almost exclusively an anime watcher. I knew the manga was better, they usually are, but i still went with the anime "how bad could it be". I liked s1 it felt like a decent story but s2 made me quit. And later pick up the manga and now it's one of my favorite stories.

Ig what im tryin to say is "if you prefer anime over manga, watch the first season, if you like it then read the manga from the start. Otherwise just start with the manga and save time."

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AGweed13 · 1 month ago

Ok, how many times will people ignore the "read the manga" advice?

You either read the manga or get resentful at how bad the anime is.

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Lost_Chariot · 1 month ago

Well cause not everyone enjoys manga reading compares to anime

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AGweed13 · 1 month ago

I get it, but the anime leggit makes the experience awful, and people still think it's a joke.

Then, they clash with what OP is saying, and ask why S3 makes no sense, after ignoring multiple warnings. If you don't wanna read the manga, it's ok, but you're losing a lot by watching the anime.

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SynStark- · 1 month ago

My advice for anyone wanting to get into Tokyo Ghoul is always the same.

  1. Start the anime
  2. Watch the opening
  3. Stop the anime

That's the only good thing about it.

  1. Read the manga
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CookieDG13monster · 1 month ago

Goated opening just for the rest to suck I mean the only positive out of this is that now we got unravel with that so yay

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Unpopular opinion: I think that in the first two seasons of Tokyo ghoul, the anime was better

Posted by turtlesszzss · in r/TokyoGhoul · 6 years ago

I watched the anime first multiple times and I just think that it's better. A lot of the stuff that was cut out wasn't really necessary and it created an atmosphere of mystery around eto and the other aogiri higher ups. I didn't really like how kaneki went through all that torture that literally turned Jason into that monster yet he can still be nice and happy it's like the only thing that changed about him was that he was more powerful. In the anime he always seemed distant yet he still cared

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

Are you saying the first two seasons of the anime are better than the manga? Because I heavily disagree with that but to each their own.

I think seasons 1 and 3 of the anime are actually pretty good but nowhere near the manga and seasons 2 and 4 are so bad they're basically unwatchable to me.

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

Season 2 was decent actually b ,Bad but not unwatchable.

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Phantom108mw3 · 6 years ago

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Kiwichemist · 6 years ago

Yeah I can see why you called it unpopular opinion. I doubt you'll find any sane person who agrees with you.

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[deleted] · 6 years ago

dude

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ImNotTemper · 6 years ago

>" A lot of the stuff that was cut out wasn't really necessary "

Are you trying to tell us that the stuff they cut out of season 2 was not necessary? 90% of Tokyo Ghoul season 2 isn't canon to the main storyline and they cut out things that are Absolutely necessary to know for future seasons.

>" I didn't really like how kaneki went through all that torture that literally turned Jason into that monster yet he can still be nice and happy "

So you believe that manga kaneki is worse because he is still "happy" but also believe that emotionless kaneki is fine? Kaneki is not happy in the manga for a start, he is going through so many inner struggles between his ghoul and human side whether what he is doing is actually helping or is right or wrong, what the meaning of right and wrong even is etc. Emotionless Kaneki is edgy for the sake of edgy, the anime did not need to make Kaneki so emotionless.

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Is the Tokyo Ghoul Anime Really That Bad?

Posted by AbsolutePotential · in r/TokyoGhoul · 2 years ago

I’ve been reading Tokyo Ghoul and have been enjoying it (I’m currently on chapter 36) and after I finish re I was thinking about watching the anime (which from what I’ve heard butchered the manga) but is it really that bad by itself? I mean if I watch it not thinking of it as an adaptation of Tokyo Ghoul and as it’s own thing is it still a bad story?

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kowasik · 2 years ago

Anime is like a set of random animated scenes from manga. I watched it like a year ago and finished the manga a month ago, and manga does a much better job at explaining the plot to you and telling the story in general. In anime, I couldnt remember how a character was named before he gets killed because of how cringed the plot is.

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JafoDias0 · 2 years ago

The 1st season is good, the rest is bad but if you ve read the manga you will probably still enjoy some scenes because even though its a bad adaptation it still has great music for example and its always cool to watch some of the scenes. Just dont expect too much

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CoolLordRaj · 2 years ago

Finish manga, watch anime and decide it yourself.

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soultrap_ · 2 years ago

The anime is fucking horrendous and an abomination

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TheCauliflowerGod · 2 years ago

I read the manga and watched the anime. Ultimately, it really is just opinionated. Did the anime do a godawful job of adapting? Yes. If you already read the manga and know what actually happens without the need for explanation, then maybe you will like the anime. I liked it a lot. But it’s understandable as to why people don’t. Though i can confidently say that the first season does a good job of adaptation

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The worst thing about the anime isn't even the content

Posted by Mzuark · in r/TokyoGhoul · 1 month ago

It's that you can't even find clips of any of the 3 separate series or OVAs that haven't been heavily edited. It reminds me of being an anime fan in like 2013 when every time someone uploaded a clip of anything new, it was claimed by copyright within the day. If you told me the studio was trying to memory hole the fact that there's a Tokyo Ghoul anime, I'd believe you.

Hell, the only reason I know about it is because it aired on Toonami once. Otherwise I'd have no idea it existed.

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XxRocky88xX · 1 month ago

Studio Pierrot for some reason takes their ownership of the IP incredibly seriously even though they clearly do not give a singular fuck about the anime itself considering how lazy the adaptation was

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Rex-Vox · 1 month ago

I always wanted to know why most Tokyo Ghoul content was rare on YouTube

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The anime (at least the original Tokyo Ghoul because I haven't seen anything beyond RE Episode 1 yet) is garbage even if we ignore the manga.

Posted by [deleted] · in r/TokyoGhoul · 5 months ago

Well, I recently finished season 2, I took the opportunity to check how "tolerant" the anime sub would be... and since the anime sub doesn't accept that garbage is garbage, I'll spill my thoughts here.

Okay, let's ignore how it destroyed the manga, let's leave it as irrelevant. Either way, it's awful.

Season 1 has a terribly inconsistent pace, sometimes moving very quickly and other times being extremely slow, what makes this pace bad as opposed to a slow pace is that people end up getting confused by not maintaining a structure and, although the slow pace may not be to everyone's liking, but a pace this inconsistent can keep you interested for one episode, and the next be an absolute sleep-inducing nightmare. for example episode 11 being the emptiest episode of the season, making the aogiri arc feel like an irrelevant and normal operation because the CCG is advancing easily (In the manga, several of these moments are left for the end of the arc as if to indicate that the danger has ended) and you're like: "oh, so they have the advantage", it was basically the CCG having the advantage again and again and even the fight of Amon and the Bin brothers is simply Mado's speech (which by this point you've probably already fallen asleep) and Amon winning again, no real danger is felt, giving it vibes of any shonen anime (not the good ones) and interspersing this with scenes of Kaneki being tortured makes the torture in the next episode lose impact when we already see part of what happens and we could already previously interpret moments like the centipede

season 2: Kaneki's inconsistent development, last season made it clear that Kaneki had learned to stand up for himself (apart from being a victim with that phrase "I'm not the one who's wrong, the world is the one that's wrong") and now... he joins Aogiri, and no, it can't be interpreted by the encounter with Eto, with how little Eto had done, she could be understood as someone valuable to Aogiri or simply too strong for the previous arc, she never showed any signs of being a character of true authority and knowing how ghouls are, one can perfectly come to think that she is Tatara's pet just as Taro was Madam A's. then we have the characters of Aogiri, what does Eto do? a deux ex machina at the end of the arc, what does Tatara or Noro do? nothing, where is Ayato's character development for Kaneki's beating? censored and deleted. root A maintains a very mediocre pace similar to season 1 before the attack on Cochlea, and in this one we feel the vibes of episode 11 of senseless violence and pretending mysticism without really wanting to build anything. And we get to the last arc, which is decent, even if it is a meme, the scene of Kaneki walking is well constructed... and then it cuts, just as Kaneki meets Arima, the season cuts and we see a time skip of Touka founding RE... wtf? not only is it anticlimactic but this scene was ruined because literally one of the first focuses of season 3 is a sign from Hide that that says "missing".

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Real_Medic_TF2 · 5 months ago

i would argue that even s1 was kinda bad. you don't care for anybody besides ken and touka, everything seems superficial, the pacing is weird, and it seems like an edgefest for no reason. I'm glad the first way i experienced this story was through the manga bc i wouldn't be happy with the anime

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XxRocky88xX · 5 months ago

I know multiple people who have seen the anime and all but one dropped it in the middle of season 2 because “I was just completely lost.”

As you said, even if you ignore the manga. Anything past season 1 is just downright bad. 3 and 4 are rushed to hell, but 2 is straight up full blown nonsensical. Like you have to turn your brain off to enjoy it because there is no sort of coherent plot or narrative. They tried to change the story while keeping the ending the same so nothing makes any sense.

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rammux74 · 5 months ago

You know the worst part about the final episode of s2 ? ( Spoilers for what happens in the manga and not in the anime, except it retroactively happens in the anime too because it goes back to following the manga after it already diverged greatly from it )

>!hide NEVER dies. We never explicitly know if he survived or died until we later learn that he survived, but he never explicitly dies like he did in s2. S2 takes this mysterious "did he die?" Question and straight up makes half an episode of making sure to tell us he died when this literally never happened. Which on its own is fine if you commit to following your own story and not the manga, but then you go back to following the manga anyways meaning you retroactively bring him back from the dead for no good reason ? I genuinely have no idea What did they even think when making that episode. They should have just showed kaneki vs arima instead to clear up everyone's confusion when s3 happened!<

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LaPapaVerde · 5 months ago

Yep, TG anime did a super weird thing where both S2 and manga are pseudo canon, it's not consistent with neither of them and never tries to fills the gaps. I think there are some other examples of that

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[deleted] · 5 months ago

I know, I've read the manga, I'm just trying to see the anime from an anime-only perspective.

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[deleted] · 5 months ago

If we limit it to season 1, it's one of my favorite anime... but it's still garbage regardless of subjective opinions.

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HuntResponsible2259 · 5 months ago

Yeah... Classic anime only season that siad what if we screwed over a character... In that case, the main character.

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Dangerous_Jacket_129 · 5 months ago

Season 1 took a lot of shortcuts through important story beats, but it was ultimately a coherent story, with good art, and it managed to end on a high note (probably why it skipped so much). Root A was a lower quality mess that just didn't make sense anymore narratively. Kaneki became an isolated individual even though he had no reason to be that way because Kaneki is inherently a friendly person who likes being around people.

Then :RE/season 3 just followed the manga to the point of going panel-to-scene, and it just didn't make a lot of sense for anime-onlies because they un-killed people, and Kaneki was suddenly called Haise despite him having a valid reason to have amnesia in the manga.

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reasons for Tokyo Ghoul's decline in popularity

Key Considerations for Tokyo Ghoul's Decline in Popularity

  1. Pacing Issues: Many fans felt that the pacing of the story, especially in the later seasons and manga, became inconsistent. This led to a lack of engagement and satisfaction with the plot progression.

  2. Character Development: Some viewers were disappointed with the character arcs, particularly with how certain characters were handled or sidelined. This can lead to a disconnect with the audience.

  3. Adaptation Quality: The anime adaptation, particularly the second season ("Tokyo Ghoul √A") and the third season ("Tokyo Ghoul:re"), received criticism for diverging from the source material and not fully capturing the depth of the manga.

  4. Complexity of Themes: The series tackles heavy themes such as identity, morality, and societal conflict, which may not resonate with all viewers. Some fans found the narrative too convoluted or dark.

  5. Competition: The rise of other popular anime series has shifted audience attention. Newer shows with fresh concepts and better execution can overshadow older series.

Takeaways:

  • While "Tokyo Ghoul" had a strong start and a dedicated fanbase, issues with pacing, character development, and adaptation quality contributed to its decline in popularity.
  • Engaging with the manga may provide a more fulfilling experience for fans who felt let down by the anime adaptations.

Recommendation: If you're a fan of the themes in "Tokyo Ghoul," consider exploring similar series like "Parasyte" or "Attack on Titan," which also delve into complex moral dilemmas and feature intense storytelling.

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