Season one is just fine, followed the manga quite good but changed some events succession; season two is utterly horrendus as it was almost completely original due to it being a big "what if" that took so many bad choices for the plot; season three is a bit better as it ignored the previous season and followed the manga, but has pacing issues as it was kinda rushed and skipped a lot of character development for the main cast; and season four is pure garbage, 100+ chapters crammed in 12, not much more to say.

Either way Pierrot focused too much on the battle aspect and left character development and relationships back, which is plot's best quality. And of course animation only got worse every season.

To sum it up just read the manga, miles better.

I like the 3rd one (re: 1st season) but the next one is so rushed that you cant understand it anymore

no clue, i got to season 3 and dropped it, it went so far downhill i could not stand it.

Just gonna have to say read the manga on this one

Same here. I put 3 of my friends on the show but warned them all that I dropped the third season after 4 episodes because they basically took kaneki out of the main character spot and replaced him in my eyes. The first two seasons are enough to make me recommend to anyone but man that was the first time I’ve ever went from loving to hating an anime just from a season change. :(

the character that was curated, to be a badass killer made nothing more than a sentimental tool?

Kaneki was never the badass killer the anime shows in season 2. He is and was always a sentimental deep down, even after he was kidnapped by Aogiri. The character assassination you talk in your other comment happened in season 2, not season 3.

Tbh I don't get how you were happy before Re. Anime sucked as a whole

Just read the manga instead. The anime is ass.

Your first mistake was WATCHING it and not READING it.

Ah, I can see how you would dislike :re so much, but there is an easy explanation for this. Season 2/Root A does not follow the source material and completely deviates from the original story. Then :re follows the proper canon without reconciling the changes made in Root A, thus confusing the people who only watched the anime.

You may think that :re assassinated Kaneki's character, but it is backwards; Root A assassinated Kanekis character, along with skipping over important plot points, like why Kaneki lost his memory. As another commenter said, Kaneki was never supposed to be a "badass killer," he was never supposed to >!join the Aogiri Tree, he was supposed to form his own group while investigating the doctor who turned him into a ghoul.!<

I suggest you read the manga to see where the anime went wrong with everything.

...read the manga. And then even the rest of the show sucks...

√A (Season 2) diverted really far from the manga. Then re: (Season's 3 & 4) tried to go back to adapting the manga faithfully, basically retconning a lot of √A in the process. Also since a couple of very important scenes weren't in √A you'll be completely lost when watching re:

Basically, they didn't adapt half of the manga, leaving a giant hole in the story.

I'd recommend reading the manga. It's a much better story.

Do you guys think it would be worth buying the Tokyo ghoul re manga? I was thinking of buying it but I'm not sure

Manga

I binged watched Tokyo Ghoul and Tokyo Ghoul:re while I was quarantined with Covid. Don't ask me how this happened, but because I bought the anime from iTunes, I somehow managed to miss season 3 entirely. I went from season 2 to season 4... imagine my confusion!�� I almost quit watching it, but I soldiered on to the end. I was able to piece together what must have happened so I was able to enjoy it. I guess in the long run, it paid off because its not every day that you finish a series you enjoy and discover that there's an entire season still waiting for you! ��

Thing is, season 2 skips the actual event that makes season 3 make sense. Since it doesn't happen, the timeskip (and so the artstyle change to justify it) feels really odd. There's a reason why people say that the anime is trash, and that is what you just experienced

read the manga anyways. 

every single problem you mentioned is not a problem in the manga. season 2 is completely anime-original, but instead of having the stuff after season 1 come after season 2, it was just replaced.

season 3 then picks up where what should have happened in season 2 left off, except they never explain how they got there.

That's the thing tho, s2 never happened, what you watched was filler this whole time. So now that you're back on canon you have no idea what happened.

...read the manga lol. I'd tell new viewers to just stop at s1 and read the manga from the start cuz while s1 is still pretty meh by comparison, it still is the good adaptation.

Ok, how many times will people ignore the "read the manga" advice?

You either read the manga or get resentful at how bad the anime is.

My advice for anyone wanting to get into Tokyo Ghoul is always the same.

1. Start the anime
2. Watch the opening
3. Stop the anime

That's the only good thing about it.

4. Read the manga

I know multiple people who have seen the anime and all but one dropped it in the middle of season 2 because “I was just completely lost.”

As you said, even if you ignore the manga. Anything past season 1 is just downright bad. 3 and 4 are rushed to hell, but 2 is straight up full blown nonsensical. Like you have to turn your brain off to enjoy it because there is no sort of coherent plot or narrative. They tried to change the story while keeping the ending the same so nothing makes any sense.

i would argue that even s1 was kinda bad. you don't care for anybody besides ken and touka, everything seems superficial, the pacing is weird, and it seems like an edgefest for no reason. I'm glad the first way i experienced this story was through the manga bc i wouldn't be happy with the anime

You know the worst part about the final episode of s2 ? ( Spoilers for what happens in the manga and not in the anime, except it retroactively happens in the anime too because it goes back to following the manga after it already diverged greatly from it )

>!hide NEVER dies. We never explicitly know if he survived or died until we later learn that he survived, but he never explicitly dies like he did in s2. S2 takes this mysterious "did he die?" Question and straight up makes half an episode of making sure to tell us he died when this literally never happened. Which on its own is fine if you commit to following your own story and not the manga, but then you go back to following the manga anyways meaning you retroactively bring him back from the dead for no good reason ? I genuinely have no idea What did they even think when making that episode. They should have just showed kaneki vs arima instead to clear up everyone's confusion when s3 happened!<

If we limit it to season 1, it's one of my favorite anime... but it's still garbage regardless of subjective opinions.

Season 1 took a lot of shortcuts through important story beats, but it was ultimately a coherent story, with good art, and it managed to end on a high note (probably why it skipped so much). Root A was a lower quality mess that just didn't make sense anymore narratively. Kaneki became an isolated individual even though he had no reason to be that way because Kaneki is inherently a friendly person who likes being around people.

Then :RE/season 3 just followed the manga to the point of going panel-to-scene, and it just didn't make a lot of sense for anime-onlies because they un-killed people, and Kaneki was suddenly called Haise despite him having a valid reason to have amnesia in the manga.

Definitely. Tokyo Ghoul is probably one of the most well known "fall-offs" in recent anime. In 2014, Tokyo Ghoul was like THE anime that year. By 2018, when the anime ended, very few were still following its releases.

Tokyo Ghoul fans are also probably the #1 community that praise the manga so most people know that a faithful adaptation would go hard. I have a feeling it wouldn't get popular with the shounen Solo Leveling zoomers immediately, but it would still be very successful, especially if they get TK to do some of the Openings again.

At this point, I really don't know. Toyko Ghoul was at it's absolutely peak in popularity around 2014-2015, and yet, for how massively popular it was then, it really isn't discussed too much outside the already existing circles. I love the series with all my heart, but from the perspective of a company who wants to make a profit, I just don't know if there's that much hype surrounding the series from an outside point of view.

I'm trying to think of who else would really be pushing the series if it was remade besides the diehard enthusiasts and the inevitable group of people coming in from that sweet sweet 2014 nostalgia. It would really have to be a hail mary bet it all move to remake the series now because there really isn't any numerical indication that the series has anywhere near the amount of fans as it did back then

I mean, the first adaptation actually skipped essencial parts of the story to the point it actually looks like an editing mistake. It's like they have a director's cut somewhere hidden within Pierrot studios and they can't release It for whatever reason. It's really laughable.

maybe, but something i think a lot of people overlook when talking about wanting remakes is the art style. maybe this is just me personally, but tg is borderline carried by its art, not that the stories bad- just that the art is that good imo. ishida is really good at creating really raw/powerful images in the right moments and i just cant ever imagine it fitting well in an animated format, assuming there are any studios who are able to replicate his art style with consistent quality in the first place.

i guess thats the downside of the series having more detailed art lol, kind of a berserk situation

I hope I get to see a remake before I die. Otherwise, I'm just gonna have to wish for 1 when I get to heaven :(

If i remember correctly by some lives they did on facebook(i am not kidding) they wanted to rush tg to focus on other projects like boruto and black clover

We don't talk about :re...

It doesn't deliver on everything it sets up so it depends on what's most important to you, and in that sense it was rushed. But in terms of how quickly the events occurred the pacing felt fine to me; the ending chapter was abrupt but it didn't feel like Ishida was trying cram everything into that final arc. It's just some plot points, character arcs etc were left unfinished. Though thematically I think it's complete and says everything it wanted to say. Overall I think it concluded really well because it nails most of the major stuff

The general consensus is that there's a quality drop in the final arc, and that :re peaked at around the middle, but I also don't think most people would say it's straight up bad, just that it's underwhelming compared to the rest of the series but still really good, and that overall :re is not much of a step down in terms of quality to the original, just a little less consistent.

Is it rushed? Yes absolutely, and you can definitely tell that it is.

Is it bad? Not necessarily. I do wish it was done a bit better, but I can still live with what we got. Most of :re is just as good, if not better than the original manga, so maybe that’s the reason my opinion isn’t as harsh as others when it comes to its ending.

Even if the last volume is a bit rushed, the manga is still great and I don't think that the ending is that bad. Maybe it would be better with more chapters, but Ishida wanted to end it so that's fine.

You will get the 2 answers, some will say it is the best they ever read, others that it is a little weak.... I cant say if it is bad for you.... I suggest just reading it and deciding for yourself.....

I think the ride was worth even though I disliked the end..

TG was the first manga I read and 2nd anime I watched. I would say the ending was a bit disappointing but it sets up :re really well. I thought :re was good up until the middle/end where it seemed to drag. The ending also didn't touch all the characters. I won't say who to not spoil anything

Studio Pierrot for some reason takes their ownership of the IP incredibly seriously even though they clearly do not give a singular fuck about the anime itself considering how lazy the adaptation was

I always wanted to know why most Tokyo Ghoul content was rare on YouTube