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Character Tier List for Street Fighter 6

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Street Fighter 6 Character Tier List

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  • Top Tier Characters: Luke, Ken, JP, DeeJay
  • Mid Tier Characters: Cammy, Juri, Chun Li, Guile
  • Lower Tier Characters: Jamie, Honda, Zangief, Lily

Top Tier Characters

The consensus across discussions is that characters like Luke, Ken, and JP are among the top tier in Street Fighter 6. Luke is often considered the strongest due to his versatile toolkit and high damage output [1:9], [1:10]. Ken is also highly rated, with players noting his popularity and effectiveness in tournaments [3:9]. JP is a bit more contentious; while some players rank him highly for his zoning capabilities, others argue he is overrated due to biases against zoners [1:8], [2:5].

Mid Tier Characters

Characters like Cammy, Juri, and Chun Li are generally placed in the mid-tier. They are considered strong but not quite at the level of the top-tier characters. Juri, for example, has great normals and versatility, making her a popular choice among players who enjoy her playstyle [2:2], [2:8]. Chun Li is noted for her damage and pressure potential, though she may not be as commonly seen in ranked matches [2:6].

Lower Tier Characters

Characters such as Jamie, Honda, and Zangief are often placed in the lower tiers. Jamie, in particular, is frequently mentioned as needing buffs, especially since he was intended to be one of the new faces of Street Fighter alongside Luke [5:5]. Players feel that these characters struggle more in competitive settings and are less represented in higher-level play.

Character Popularity and Representation

Character popularity does not always align with their tier placement. For instance, shotos like Ryu and Ken are always popular choices, regardless of their tier status [5:1]. Guile, despite being a strong character, is perceived as less exciting to play, which might affect his representation [5:12]. Blanka and Guile have been noted for having fewer players, yet they remain effective in skilled hands [5:2].

Canonical Strength vs. Gameplay Tier

Interestingly, there are discussions about ranking characters based on their canonical strength rather than gameplay effectiveness. In this context, characters like Ryu, Akuma, and Dhalsim are often considered the strongest due to their lore and abilities [4:4]. However, this type of tier list is more speculative and less relevant to actual gameplay balance.

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Drop your final SF6 tier list before the patch

Posted by SeerOfThings · in r/StreetFighter · 1 year ago
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Wanted to know everyone's opinions on the current tier list before the patch shakes things up.

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wingspantt · 1 year ago

The top is clearly something like (NOT IN ORDER):

  • Luke
  • Deejay
  • Ken
  • Chun Li
  • JP
  • (Maybe Sim or Blanka but not enough people play them at high level)

Then the bottom is like....

  • Every grappler, E. Honda, Jamie... maybe AKI

The middle is pretty much all similar. You can argue is Ryu bottom or not, but clearly he's decent enough people still try to win with him. You aren't seeing anyone win with Jamie!

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SeerOfThings · OP · 1 year ago

My tier list

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Kleavage · 1 year ago

Solid list. I'd say that they should probably balance characters to be closer to the A tier characters.

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colinzack · 1 year ago

My tier list

I think this is more or less where I'd land, but I'd toss Chun in the top 5 and maybe move Marisa up.

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

I cosign this other than some of the orders of the tiers. Like I would still say Jamie is better than Honda or Lilly...but I don't disagree they're in the same tier.

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LakeEarth · 1 year ago

Pretty much my list. I'm a firm believer of Luke > Ken and JP.

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ShiftyShifts · 1 year ago

I agree with most of this list I don't understand why JP is top on everyone's list. There was a milli on the line yesterday and there were no JP and the ones that did show got worked.

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SeerOfThings · OP · 1 year ago

On paper he's broken but in practice he's hard to pilot at the highest level.

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ThePostingToproller · 1 year ago

S - Luke , Ken , Jp

A - Deejay , Cammy , Guile , juri , Chun Li

B - Blanka , Rashid , Marisa , Ryu

C - Dhalsim , Kimberley , Aki , Manon , Jamie

D - Honda , Zangief , lilly

Names not in order.

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gitblame_fgc · 1 year ago

I don't feel like ordering characters but I still think that power level on top 10 is not that far off. Even though it's clear that JP and Luke are better than everyone else - each for different reasons - I won't be convinced by Cammy or Blanka players that they struggle in this game. The difference between Cammy and for example Luke is not that big, that's why I can't really dig putting one of them in S tier and the other in A tier.

I've put serious time in 4 characters in this game, Luke, Cammy, Juri and Ryu. And Ryu is where I think struggle really starts. I used to think that Ryu would be better if Ken and Luke were worse, but it's fuckin cap. Ryu fuckin sucks in this game. Maybe the only 2 characters I feel are definetly worse are Jamie and Manon.

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NessOnett8 · 1 year ago

Even though it's clear that JP and Luke are better than everyone else

According to every single metric we have Ken is way better than JP, and DJ is roughly equivalent fighting for 3rd. And none of those are even in the same universe as Luke.

People are just biased against Zoners so they overrate the hell out of him.

(And Ken is super popular, and people always downplay their mains, so Ken has the most downplayers. He's #2. It's literally not even a question)

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ShiftyShifts · 1 year ago

I 100% agree with this people hate JP because they hate playing against him. Simply because he has an unfun style to play against. He isn't OP I wouldn't Even put him top 3.

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Here is my tier list for some of the characters for sf6

Posted by Hilianinja64 · in r/StreetFighter · 2 years ago
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Adamfromcali · 2 years ago

The s plus is pretty much the meta rn but I think jp is slowly getting pushed down. I would flip jp and juri

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Hilianinja64 · OP · 2 years ago

Yeah same jp is Hella strong and has pretty great options in ways of lock down with many use of his projects so I've been hearing about but I can that stuff maybe timed down in patches later on in the game also he has a strong parry but is not a good option If you throw it out willy nilly especially with drive gauge since that can really screw him over a bit. But as for I can definitely see juri being switch with jp since I've been playing her since the game came out I can sat shes almost up there with S+ (Graet normals if you know how to use them,many normals to can be cancel into drive rush like 5.hp,2.mk,5.mp,ect,shes constant Damage not big damage but stays consistent imo,not to mention she be aggressive with having a great grab and a pretty cool projectile) makes her a very very very strong character but more like she's like a kida starting point for the s+ tier charactersor is the strongest character In s tier you know what I mean. But due fir her not having alot of long normals like dee Jay or guile that kinda make her match up against Marisa a bit challenging or maybe I'm just a scrub agrarian that match up idk 😅her projectile is pretty good and has usages but not at levels of Luke's or guiles you know well that's my opinion at least why.

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Adamfromcali · 2 years ago

Some of JP projectiles you could actually dash through. I think the ones with the ghost before they start their hand swipe animations.

I think top characters would have 2 of 3 following: Invincible uppercut, low drive rush cancel , or some type of combo that throws you in the corner .

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Hilianinja64 · OP · 2 years ago

So for disclaimer this are my thoughts on how well characters are for this game and also I don't have everyone in here again this are my kinda thoughts for a few of the cast.

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Gomenaxai · 2 years ago

I’m a scrub but I think Chun-li is at least S

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Hilianinja64 · OP · 2 years ago

Oh really how so I'm actually curious of why if your able to explain

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Gomenaxai · 2 years ago

Watch some Moke games, his Chun li damage and pressure is ridiculous but she is not that popular in ranked so only Chun li mains will get the most out of her

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flexcannon · 2 years ago

Out of curiosity who do you main?

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Hilianinja64 · OP · 2 years ago

Oh juri and I've been loving that gal since the open beta shes dope af bro😆

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[deleted] · 2 years ago

My list

S+: Ken, JP, DeeJay

S : Luke, Kimberly, Cammy, Juri

A : Honda, Lily, Chun Li

B : Everyone Else

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STREET FIGHTER 6 Tier List Average (06. 2025 ~)

Posted by Entire_Self_5040 · in r/StreetFighter · 10 days ago
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SF6 Tier List Average

- Total 20 tier lists

- When Viper releases, it will be updated with new data sheet if there is a major bellance adjustment.

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McMeatbag · 10 days ago

Ed has to be S+

Getting nerfed doesn't stop him from being all over top 8s at tournaments.

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Crazyninjagod · 10 days ago

I wonder if the sub will still overrate the shit out of sagat like they usually do lol

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Rave50 · 10 days ago

Nah low tiger shot is kinda underwhelming, he feels easy to beat

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Aggrokid · 10 days ago

Probably not. Don't forget we had couple seasons of weak SFV Sagat.

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DoctorSchwifty · 10 days ago

Glad to see some honesty with Ryu near the top of the tier list. He is a drive gauge and damage monster.

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Substantial-Way-520 · 10 days ago

Ryu downplayers all over this subreddit. The character was doing great even before these giga buffs. If you're playing Ryu and not getting results it's a skill issue.

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Manatroid · 10 days ago

It’s funny to me, because I don’t think I see anyone downplay Ryu, but I see a bunch of people say that it’s happening.

I assumed that ever since Season 3 he was commonly considered to be at least close to Top 5, if not comfortably in there already.

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FruityPoopLoops · 10 days ago

A+ is kinda where every character should want to be, strong enough to compete and not be targeted with nerfs

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inadequatecircle · 9 days ago

And matchups. I miss the days when people would actually post matchup spread aggregates from top players. A character that is really dominant might have a few jarring matchups and might end their tournament run. But a character with 5-5 matchups across the board is very safe and allows more wiggle room for personal skill.

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McMeatbag · 10 days ago

Nearly everyone's dropped him for tournament play. And the ones that haven't are trying to pick up a new character (Ryukichi, Tokido). Takamura is probably the top player that seems to be sticking to Ken.

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DoctorSchwifty · 10 days ago

He's definitely S tier if we must have that tier...

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apatheticVigilante · 10 days ago

Let's go Lily! :'(

Edit: yo who put her A tier? I'm a big up-seller, but even I am like, she ain't A, lol

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What would your tier list/ranking of Street Fighter 6's characters based on their canonical strength look like?

Posted by Ashconwell7 · in r/StreetFighter · 2 years ago
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So I've seen a lot of people on this sub make rankings or tier lists based on character's canonical strength in the past but these usually focused on the previous Street Fighter's games' characters. I haven't seen anybody do a tier list/ranking of the Street Fighter 6 cast yet and I really wonder how people would rank some of these new characters next to older ones.

So I'm starting this thread. How do you think all the playable characters in Street Fighter 6 (including upcoming DLC ones) would be ranked in a tier list based on their canonical strength? Who do you think are the strongests? Who do you think are the weakests? Please share your thoughts.

https://preview.redd.it/s6cxf6iinmrb1.jpg?width=1300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffe19aecac9ac1369070dcc81401e5fc1c5b32da

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wren620 · 2 years ago

Since no one’s given you an actual answer about the NEW cast yet, here’s my take:

Tier 1: Godlike- Ryu & Akuma,

Tier 2: Subgod- Ken, Dhalsilm, JP.

Tier 3: Superpowered- Juri, Chun Li, Rashid, Cammy, Blanka, Guile, Zangief

Tier 4: Inhuman-, Deejay, Luke, Jamie, Marissa, Honda, Aki, Ed

Tier 5: Talented- Manon, Kimberly, Lily

Admittedly this is not the most accurate ranking so please lmk your thoughts.

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AdamTheScottish · 2 years ago

I'd move Manon up a tier seeing how she's even with Marisa

Only major disagreement I have aside from that is JP being so high when he just kinda sucks? He has psycho power and beats Kimberly but other than that he ran away from Cammy, he at the very best fucks with Ken though more likely gets his ass handed to him, loses to the avatar and recently lost to AKI

He's probably strong but we nothing to really suggest that and quite a lot to suggest the opposite, especially the idea of him being where you put him

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wren620 · 2 years ago

I feel like JPs power is more potential based rather than combat. Like it’s the same power that bison uses and while he’s not as strong as bison there’s Definitely room for growth.

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InvestigatorSad658 · 2 years ago

The strongest are Ryu, Akuma and Dhalsm. I don't think it's really debatable to be honest, they're easily the best out of the cast considering their past and their present currently.

Some people may try to argue that Ken should also be up there, but I think he's currently out of his game since he's probably currently trying to get out of his bad situation rather than really train and practice his skills, but who knows for sure? It's hard to say.

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Far_Brick_8879 · 1 year ago

Ryu and Ken are on par of each other Dhalsim is powerful but he is a tier low Ryu and Ken

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TobiasX2k · 2 years ago

The only person I'd add to that list would be J.P. (firmly behind the 3 you mentioned), as his use of psycho power seems pretty advanced and his fighting style would be a nightmare for anyone but those 3 to get through.

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JustAMortal · 2 years ago

Ken retired after Alpha 3 and was still on Ryu's level when he came out of retirement in SF2.

Ken retired after SF2 and was on par with Ryu in SFIV. He even used the power of nothingness BEFORE Ryu who spent years trying to achieve it.

Ken retired after 3rd Strike and now he's back in action but this time he's pissed. Why do you believe Ken is weaker than Dhalsim and Ryu when Capcom has shown constantly that Ken is on their level without even trying? Unlike his 40 year old virgin rival, Ken draws power from his family so technically this is the strongest version of Ken.

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Far_Brick_8879 · 1 year ago

Ken does train he didn’t have the Power of Nothingness before Ryu but even though Ken and Ryu is basically on the same level I don’t know about SF6 but they always been on par

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InvestigatorSad658 · 2 years ago

He's not really back in action, and neither does his story show that. And just because somebody is pissed doesn't mean they're stronger, not only that, he's more likely to make mistakes than anything.

And why do I believe Ryu and Dhalsm are stronger? Simply because they have more experience than Ken. They devoted their life for power, or simply to become the best while Ken was busy with his personal life. Also, I don't think Capcom really showed us that Ken is on their level without trying, but I guess that's up to a debate.

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Robotic_potato22 · 2 years ago

It dosent matter bacuse as far as I know akuma is the strongest Canon character rivaled by ryu bison and gill

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gogadantes9 · 2 years ago

Pretty sure Oro is the strongest canon character. He was so strong he pretty much took himself out of the SF story and was just content to watch events unfold.

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KilluaDab · 2 years ago

Zangief is strongest (look at his body of iron!)

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Tier list made by number of players 1900+ MR with each character

Posted by Big_Conference_9075 · in r/StreetFighter · 1 year ago
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Made by Fchamp in a YT video. I find it interesting that it is very close to most tier lists that we see.

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walkedplane · 1 year ago

What do the asterisks denote on Guile and Blanka? My guess is lower representation by players, but still a sizably number 1900MR+ but would be nice to confirm

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Big_Conference_9075 · OP · 1 year ago

He put the stars next to characters that don’t reflect well due to lack of representation vs how good the are. Blanka and Guile are really good but rare compared to other high tiers.

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

That explanation sounds good, but isn't backed up by reality. Guile is not an unpopular character and he's well represented in terms of number of players

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f1f2f3f4f5f6f7f8f9 · 1 year ago

I'd imagine that's because guile in particular is quite boring and mundane to play compared to the rest of the cast

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[deleted] · 1 year ago

Guile is literally the only character stopping this from just looking like a top level player's tier list I would see on Twitter lol. Thats really interesting!

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AAKurtz · 1 year ago

I'm going to go ahead and say it... Guile is exactly where he should be and popular option will come around to that shortly.

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acideater · 1 year ago

I think Guile has a great plan if you can play it correctly.

Drive parry and a terrible matchup with top tier and popular character JP knocks him down the tier.

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m2keo · 1 year ago

Jamie need buffs, bruh. I mean, the dude (along with Luke) is supposed to be the new face of Street Fighter going forward. This is what the head developers said themselves on numerous occasions. So how is it that Luke is on pace to do just that while the other is absolute bottom tier and totally abandoned by top players?! Capcom, fix this character, yo.

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YAZF · 1 year ago

I would love to see this vs character popularity as a whole. Sure there's a ton of Kens above 1900MR but there's also just... tons of Ken players. It would put things in a more complete context.

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machinegungeek · 1 year ago

Not fully. Because it wouldn't determine if the character is just picked a lot due to popularity or if because people of all ranks think they are OP.

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renrag242 · 1 year ago

Honestly I think the amount of people that pick characters because they're top tier is drastically lower than the people who pick them because they seems fun. Shotos are always the most popular characters, they just happen to be really good in SF6.

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Tatsudondondon · 1 year ago

Jamie players are the most opressed group in sf6, we need to rise up

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Newer player to SF6 need help picking a character.

Posted by PollutionCareless616 · in r/StreetFighter · 4 months ago

I decided to start grinding SF6 online matches but I need help picking a main character. I have tried all characters and I personally enjoyed Ed, Cammy, Chun li, and Akuma the most. I wouldn't say that I'm impatient but eager to aggressively attack my opponent wether it's little or massive damage. Based on what I stated above, I also would like to know what the characters' (character u recommended) gameplay would be like in higher ranks in a nutshell. Sorry if I explained a bit poorly, still learning the basics of this game.

Felt cute might delete later..

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Numan_Rhys · 4 months ago

Undoubtedly, the character above with the most active playstyle is akuma, but ed can be extrememly busy as well. Akuma can fireball, jump, demon flip and craps damage, while Ed is baiting, pulling people in and doing many fireball setups.

Cammy and akuma have a lot of overlap: but the key difference is cammy does things reactionary while akuma does things to cause reactions. Cammy's tools are slow but designed to counter a specific type of move from your opponent. Their strength is their walkspeed: where other character's buttons are longer they can walk into range and pressure that way. Cammy can stick to people a lot easier once she's in, but that's the struggle.

Ed and Chun are slower, so depend more on longer pokes before people can get close enough to attack. With people respecting pokes, you can then use a fireball type move to lock people down and force a guess. Ed's easier to play (except for his dream combos), where Chun has to do 2 different moves where other characters would just attack with 2 buttons, so it's more work to learn.

Cammy, Ed and Chun are best played as "whiff punishing" or midrange characters: it's more about catching people who miss and learning how to make people miss. Akuma is good playing this way too, and his low health encourages caution, as wild agro does cause more misses which he can't afford.

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RapidRoquefort · 3 months ago

I just started playing Cammy this week so I'm definitely very new to her kit. Can you explain why you say her tools are slow? To me they feel very fast but quite stubby. It's been very hard fighting against Elena because she outranges me so much. That and her animations look really confusing and I'm having a terrible time whiff punishing her. I feel like I try to out space her by weaving in and out but I always get pushed out because of Elena's range.

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Numan_Rhys · 3 months ago

It's a generalization for sure, and i say this in reference to her special moves. True that they aren't ALL slow, they all have some very BIG and VERY obvious weakness.

Hooligan you can neutral jump on reaction. If you treat it like a blanka command grab then you should be able to avoid it when it's thrown out yolo by jumping. None of the attacks hit jumpers. Using it at short range like a shotgun, you're more likely to catch people, if they aren't already attacking, but the thing to notice is that DI is 26 frames. Hooligan's fastest attack is 30, it's trickier but no less reactable.

Heavy spin knuckle has a lot of wind up. With a bit of practice, you can jab her as she jumps in on you, and once you have a counter hit combo ready you can get a handsome little punish. Where Dragonlash or Teleport you can jab and then do a special move, once you're practiced with counter hits (like say, stopping drive rush), it's something that's straight forward to punish. Even worse, it too can be beat by neutral jumping.

Using arrow as people are wiggling in neutral is a problem. Aiming arrow so that it's safe (that is, not more than -4 on block) is extremely difficult. The faster your opponent is the more likely you are to miss or be punishable. Neutral jumping is unlikely to happen unless you're abusing the other options, but is very prevalent on round start. Hell, it's so bad, if i see them jumping i'll DP off round 2 start just to call it out. If you face another rushdown and are patient enough to get them to chase you, then that's a maybe from me, but cr.mk does the same, if not better, and is safer (unpunishable at its max range).

Divekick is tricky to aim well, and (would you look at that) looses to neutral jump or backdashing.

Each tool is a scalpel and aren't meant to be abused.

As for using normals... players keeping aggressively distant spacing are always tough to nail down. Cammy's speed is meant to get you close enough to use them, but since landing st.hk doesn't actually lock people down, the hope is once they start interrupting st.hk you're at a spacing to jump or divekick. If they're just walking backwards, and not using a dp, you can get away with a delayed divekick (stalling your jump) pretty regularly.

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Holdingdownback · 3 months ago

Of the characters you mentioned, Akuma would be your best bet. He’s a shoto, which basically means he’s a character with a fireball and an uppercut. Shotos are like the gold standard of a well rounded Street Fighter character. He’s probably the most aggressive Shoto, perhaps in contention with Ken, but he has a lower health total to compensate for his insanely diverse toolkit. Whether or not you stick with Akuma long term doesn’t matter, because he has the tools to teach you how to anti air and play neutral, which translates to all characters.

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monjio · 4 months ago

Dude just play the characters that feel good and dont think about it

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Previous-Base-378 · 4 months ago

Best answer

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angrylilbear · 3 months ago

Ryu, if ur new, is the process imo

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Dead___Money · 4 months ago

I got 7 in master but im pretty trash so take this with a pinch of salt. I started with cammy and it was really good, fast tho she doesnt hit extremely hard. I absolutely loved Ed! but he got nerfed several times and havent tried him in this patch, and his combos are very timing precise. Akuma, amazing... before the patch. Now its a shadow of his former self, still viable but not like before. If you like aggressive and fast, go for cammy. You like taking your time and analyze the situation, go for ed. You like brute force? Marisa all the way. Honestly choose the one he looks the cooler for you, thats what I always do.

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Shuto, Haitani, and John Takeuchi Street Fighter 6 tier list

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Ziz__Bird · 1 year ago

He dominates Gief, so I can see why'd you'd feel that way, but IMO as someone who plays Sim and Luke, Sim is nowhere near top 5. Terrible wakeup defense, at risk of jump-ins on a lot of his best moves and doesn't have a DP for tight anti airs, and his walk speed is terrible. Also doesn't have a good meterless jab confirm (outside of counter hit/punish counter).

Basically I think he has to take too many risks in neutral for not enough reward.

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No-Butterscotch-5979 · 1 year ago

They're better than I'll ever be, but Sim as D tier below Honda,aki, and manon is bananas. Better tournament results, better matchups, makes me question the rest of the list.

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wingnut5k · 1 year ago

Sim is always going to float around (heh) tier wise from different pros because he still is underplayed, though more prevalent at the pro level, and his moveset is polarizing, so I can see how 2 pros at the top of their game can evaluate him totally differently. I don't know if he's bottom tier, I have not fought him nearly enough to even put him anywhere, but what I will say is that Sim does have some pretty big weaknesses. Since he benefits from the system mechanics way less than other characters, which we know are very powerful, I could definitely see him becoming weaker as people get better at refining things like DR pressure and especially perfect parry. But what do I know, I'm curious to see where pros put him over the coming months

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Gerganon · 1 year ago

Sim is only winning* (I see sim mains switch characters, eg. Mistahcrimson to luke- in order to win when it matters) because he's the lowest played character and has the element of surprise

No invincible reversal, easily punished hurtboxes...  even simply anti-airing with sim is risky as more often than not they can just aerial your limb for a counter hit 

Play sim and find out -  lack of MU knowledge carries him imo 

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ManliestBunny · 1 year ago

Chun li being top 3 makes sense since the birds had a training camp in Asia and moved her up there as well. I believe the reason sim is so low is John Takeuchi is rating it and Dhalsim loses incredibly hard against Rashid. That being said Dhalsim has some really polarizing match ups.

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Uncanny_Doom · 1 year ago

Ken has obnoxious stuff but the big thing that average players like you and me need to consider is that one of his obnoxious things in high level play, is not his neutral. That's where everyone beats him. He's still a strong character but you can see that as players have learned the matchup, Ken matches tend to be a lot more scrambly uphill battles that his players are snatching from the jaws of defeat more often than just dominating opponents.

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LordZarock · 1 year ago

Ryu worse than Manon, Honda, Lily and Aki ? Come on.

Yeah I know, why play Ryu when Ken and Luke exist, but let's not be ridiculous.

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LogicKennedy · 1 year ago

Ryu is only D tier because there's a character that does everything he does but better. So why play him?

Objectively he's higher tier than that, he's just completely outclassed in his own niche.

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DeusVultSaracen · 1 year ago

This is it. You can't really view characters in a vacuum. Gief for example could be considered low tier to many, but because of the unique tools he offers he can be incredibly effective for a play style that utilizes those tools.

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Organic-Pineapple-86 · 1 year ago

The downplay on Ken and Ryu is absolutely insane. Chun is not better than Ken. Manon and Lily is not better than Ryu. Did people forget how to play shotos?

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SaskalPiakam · 1 year ago

You understand that the people who made the tier list are rashid, Marisa, and Chun players right?

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czartaylor · 1 year ago

Yes, a Rashid, a Marisa, and a Modern main have a vested interest in downplaying ken.

How do you get out bed smoking that much copium lol. Gotta be blasted out of your mind.

Like I don't even care where ken falls on the tier list as long as it's not top 2, but man reddit is really, really crazy when it comes to ken. You either put him top 3 or you're trying to downplay him to avoid nerfs or you're a (secret) ken main.

Legitimately the hottest take on this list is not ken's placement, it's Manons, but Ken out of top 3? Start up the torches and pitchforks boys.

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r/StreetFighter • [8]

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Best "Underdog" Characters Tier List, based on ranked win rates

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snot3353 · 1 year ago

Surprised not to see Kim up in the A/S tiers. She feels like the character that can just run over you if you don't know the matchup well.

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wingnut5k · 1 year ago

This semi makes sense intuitively, since you'd expect the "robbery" characters to perform better since you can play weird or volatile and take wins off of people who may be better, so it makes sense to see weirdos or characters with gimmicks and tricks like Blanka, AKI, and Honda high, or characters who can be really snowbally and hit like a truck like Marisa. Surprised to see Ken and JP low then, but I guess because people see so many of them that they're probably used to the matchup even if they haven't labbed it much lol.

Though the big shocker for me is Dhalsim being so low

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welpxD · 1 year ago

For me it's more surprising that Cammy is so high. Her gameplan is fundamentally honest and not that unique, so it's hard for me to wrap my head around her robbing people more than characters like Rashid and Jamie.

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wingnut5k · 1 year ago

Agreed, maybe it's a function of Cammy having some really, really fucked up matchups lol. She's an absolute nightmare for the Shotos, everytime I play Ryu and see Cammy I want to cry, and top Ken players say the same thing. I play Cammy as a secondary, and when I see Ken or Ryu I laugh maniacally. I agree that to play her optimally she is very fundamental and patient, but she has some really lopsided matchups both in her favor and against her. But who can say, this is just my crackpot speculation

EDIT: Just checked her WR against Ken in Masters and it really isn't that high, so it's doubtful that this explains it

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Exciting_Ad_4202 · 1 year ago

Cammy's gameplan actually isn't that honest. If you don't really study her blockstring gap, she can keep you in it for years to come.

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BatBoss · 1 year ago

 Though the big shocker for me is Dhalsim being so low

My guess is that characters with a simple gameplan tend to beat stronger opponents more (Lily, Honda, Canmy, Manon). Once in a while you just make all the right guesses and your opponent guesses wrong.

Characters with a more adaptive/reactive gameplan like (Dhalsim, Guile, Ryu) tend to do worse against stronger opponents - harder to overcome the knowledge gap.

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C10ckwork · 1 year ago

No matter what rank you and your opponent are Dhalsim is one of the hardest working characters in the game, especially since he's only allowed to make a few mistakes a match and he doesn't have many knowledge checks like lily, aki, manon, and honda.

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wingnut5k · 1 year ago

That is true, he does have some true weaknesses, but I feel like if you become proficient in Sim you will catapult in rank at first. If you don't know how to react and play against him and his limbs, he will absolutely eat you alive. He doesn't have knowledge checks in the same sense Honda does, but he IS the knowledge check, and the fact he's by far the least played character I'm sure compounds that. But considering this is Master data, I can see him being lower than characters like AKI, I guess I'm shocked just how far down he is.

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BeefDurky · 1 year ago

Dang Ryu is just that honest huh? I guess the good thing is that if you play Ryu you have statistical evidence that you’ve earned all of your wins.

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MegamanX195 · 1 year ago

It's a combination of that, and Ryu being a really common matchup. Ken is incredibly strong and yet he's still bottom 5 according to this statistic, simply because he's a very common matchup so people are used to dealing with him.

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_MrDomino · 1 year ago

Pretty sure why we're seeing Japan downrank Ken. It comes across as stupid since Capcom absolutely blessed Ken, but when you see his BS on the regular, you learn what to look out for. That said, I've always seen lots of Ryus, but I think people have been better at learning his strengths and strats over the past month or two. Initially, it was just "Denjin bad/not as good as Ken," and that was enough for people to write him off.

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Fabrosith · 1 year ago

Thank you for creating this. Data analysis is fun and interesting!

At a glance, it looks like this tier list is at least somewhat inversely correlated with pick-rate (compare to https://i.redd.it/x6q0ixkqwqbc1.png) which makes sense as players are presumably less prepared for characters which they encounter infrequently. But there are a few standout exceptions:

  • Dhalsim is consistently lowest-picked and yet also places very low on this tier list. Poor guy.
  • Cammy (and to a lesser extent) Marisa stand out as placing high despite being relatively common picks.

It would be interesting to see what the results would look like if you could (somehow?) account for pick-rate.

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The Character Quality Tier List (Hot Take)

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GolemofForce8402 · 3 years ago

Twelve really deserves a second chance in sf6. He looked cool, was basically a terminator, but he was just so weak in the gameplay department.

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[deleted] · 3 years ago

It's extremely mean to say that Abigail is C tier, and I would like to speak to your manager! /s

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[deleted] · 3 years ago

nash belongs at the lowest possible tier

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Scrifty · 3 years ago

Charlie*

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COOLESTQUEST · 3 years ago

Stop posting

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Rin_Hoshizura · 3 years ago

Normally I wouldn't pay much attention to a tier list but you did put Sakura in S Tier so I have to give you a point there haha

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FezCool · 3 years ago

True

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My tier list of a characters (may be subject to change)

Posted by Significant_Tie_3222 · in r/slaytheprincess · 1 year ago
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(I do admit I haven’t personally played the game myself due to it not being on Xbox but I have an arched quite a few videos on it.)

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KnownPangolin · 1 year ago

They should all be S tier

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PokemonAhriFan255 · 1 year ago

Nightmare, Clarity and Spectre low tier, smh.

At least Thorn and Razor are High, so that’s based.

Very largely mixed vibes

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Fissis19 · 1 year ago

pristine blade in s tier is the only correct opinion

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SoupCanMasta · 1 year ago

Voice of stubborn is a real one, he has enough willpower that he can force himself into S tier

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Mr_Bokobolin · 1 year ago

And he'll fight anyone along the way.

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BIG_SMOOOOOOOHKE_PL · 1 year ago

...but not enough willpower to afford bringing you back to life more than twice...

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yeetingthisaccount01 · 1 year ago

I love my boy so much

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PantherPL · 1 year ago

Tower at C? unsubscribe

totally not because I'm a bottom

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JustinTheMan354 · 1 year ago

Agreed!

We're not seeing the pearly gates any time soon.

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Tamareira568 · 1 year ago

I totally agree with you!

haha big mommy go brr

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Street Fighter 6 character tier list

Key Considerations for a Street Fighter 6 Character Tier List:

  1. Character Strengths and Weaknesses: Each character has unique strengths (e.g., speed, damage output, range) and weaknesses (e.g., poor defense, slow movement). Understanding these can help you choose a character that fits your playstyle.

  2. Matchup Knowledge: Some characters perform better against specific opponents. A tier list often reflects how well characters fare against others in competitive play.

  3. Player Skill Level: A character's effectiveness can vary based on the player's skill. A lower-tier character can outperform a higher-tier character in the hands of a skilled player.

  4. Meta Changes: The tier list can change with patches and updates, as balance adjustments may enhance or nerf certain characters.

  5. Community Consensus: Look for tier lists from reputable sources, such as pro players or community tournaments, as they often reflect the current competitive landscape.

Current Tier List Overview (as of October 2023):

  • Top Tier: Characters like Luke, Juri, and Chun-Li are often considered top-tier due to their versatility and strong tools.

  • Mid Tier: Characters such as Ryu and Cammy are solid choices but may require more skill to maximize their potential.

  • Low Tier: Characters like Zangief or Blanka might struggle against top-tier characters but can still be effective in the right hands.

Recommendation: If you're new to the game, consider starting with a mid-tier character that has a balanced skill set, like Ryu or Luke. They offer a good mix of accessibility and depth, allowing you to learn the game mechanics effectively while still being competitive.

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