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That's some heavy club work

Looking big Nick 💪😎

beautiful job

I bet we leave the 2 way spot open.

Man I liked Beastvelin Queen

I think we sign the 2 way for sure and the the last roster spot we leave open until later in the year when the cap hit is less

Ehhh give me Keon Johnson…lol nah but ima go with Quinones or Castleton.

same Q was posted about a week ago lol, copying my response from that thread:

Beekman is a 6'1" guard who has shot 17% on 3's in his limited NBA minutes, so he's out lol. Quinoses is a 6'5" SG who has shot 34% from 3 in about 50 NBA games, not terrible but not super exciting. Minaya is another 6'5" guy who cant shoot (23% career from 3) but has had the most stable career so far (57 games over 3 seasons, all with Portland). Castleton is a 6'11" PF/C who doesn't seem to do anything particularly well.

None of these guys should garner any excitement for anyone lol. Give the experience/stability, Minaya is probably the best bet as like a "wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to give this guy a few minutes if we're very injured." but none of these guys seem to have much upside imo.

Team New Challengers:

Fei Long

Deejay

T. Hawk

Team Third Strike (Its the name of the game plus they are three people and they strike)

• Makoto
• Elena
• Dudley

Team Boxer

Balrog

Ed

Dudley

Team henchmen

Urien

Necro

Twelve

Team karin

Karin kanzuki

Effie

Yurika kirishima

Karin, who wants to beat Sakura in this tournament, enlist the help of Yurika kirishima, who wants to fight with her friend akira kazama and effie who want to keep necro safe.

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Meh maybe I snuck him in there(also forgot Gobert) but he’s probably a top 15 C.

"Are there any more true power forwards, or are the power forwards gone?"

There's a whole lot of centers on your list.

This was true ~10 years ago, in the early to mid 2010s.

In the past 7, 8 years, though, actual big men have had a resurgence, and a lack of size at center is very much a problem these days, especially on the defensive end.

I feel like he’s talking specifically about 4s. Most teams are not playing without any big men, and anyone who watches the NBA can see that

Funny thing is that cookie's actually tall so he might very well be 6'1", Dillon is already confirmed 5'6" n guy in the middle I have no idea who he is might in fact be that tall.

Keep in mind Dillon is wearing heels.

5'8, 6'2, 5'5

yeah. i think 5'11, 5'6 and 6'5

guy on the right is known to wear shoe lifts though

Says the “grown man” whose mental got one shot by an ironic comment on Reddit. Keep crying.

4'4, 4'10, 3'11

If right is 5’6”, left is 5’10” and middle is 6’4”. The other two guys might actually be even shorter because 5’6” is leaning more than anyone else in the photo - the other two are standing straight up.

Fury - 202cm Lewis (prime) - 195cm Usyk - 189cm Holyfield (prime) - 189cm

Bosh.

What’s going on with Fury’s shoes ?

Hell no Holyfield was 6’1.5 peak

most annoying title just say their names

Fury wearing the 2 inch heels to be 6’6 lol

Forcing guesses (including very high reward guesses) is extremely common in every fighting game ever, basically, including past Street Fighter games, but *especially* faster paced 2D games like Guilty Gear, Marvel, etc. Thinking this is relatively new to SF6 is mind boggling to me.

It might be a byproduct of the game having so many players with access to good training modes and good online play, so you're just more likely to encounter this type of stuff compared to fighting a good Yun in 3rd Strike, which most players have never done. If you want to talk removing autonomy or agency from players, all the most extreme examples of this are in old games, not new ones.

I also think that there are not nearly as many "guess for game" situations in SF6 as posts like this seem to state. There are so many low risk, low reward situations in the game where the defender OSes their way out of trouble a large percentage of the time, or the offense lands a hit but runs out of drive and can't apply oki, etc. You need level 3, a lot of drive, and a good read to make people explode, which limits the applications to once-ish per match and often not even then. I'd say the damage/opportunities to fish for damage in SF6 are perfectly in line with many other fan favorites in the genre.

If you're trying to theorize as to why unreactable mixups need to exist, it's because the genre depends on forcing uncomfortable situations on its players in order for damage to be possible. Nobody would ever hit Leshar or GO1 if they could down back and use reactions to escape all trouble. The games would be broken and (even worse) extremely uninteresting and boring.

I really like this game firstly but i do want to touch on what i think people mean when they say SF6 is guess heavy or at least what it means to me.

It’s not so much that there’s guessing, it’s that the risk reward is so heavily favoured towards the attacker, especially in the corner. It should always be in the attackers favour, but I feel it’s skewed way too much.

Throw loops (old ground I know) are a perfect example of this, you get thrown, they walk up and throw you again, as the defender you have options, you can tech, which resets the neutral, but the risk of teching is being shimmied and dying, the offender if you tech, well sure neutral is reset but you still have them in the corner.

You could use a reversal, but again this carries enormous risk for you, but the attacker? Well EX DPs don’t do that much damage and they still have you in the corner, a super obviously does more damage but now your opponent is burning meter.

Drive reversal is a bit safer but again if it’s blocked you’re in trouble.

There’s no real way to escape the corner without taking a massive risk, but on the other side of that, across most of the cast, it’s really easy to get someone in to the corner at basically no risk to yourself.

Previously you’d take the throw doesn’t do that much damage, except now they can loop it, at some point you have to guess.

I don’t think the issue is guessing in isolation, all fighting games have guessing, it’s the core of the genre, I think there’s just too much reward for certain things on offence, there are some things in the game that barely have a downside, you might as well just do them, why not go for a throw loop? It costs you nothing and gives you everything.

They’ve already fixed it with some characters, Elena and Sagat have loops, but you need to use meter, that’s fine, many of that cast however do not, including the character I play.

I’ve spoke a lot about throw loops but there’s other examples, it’s just the easiest to give an example for.

Idk if it agree with SF6 being more snowball-y than DBFZ. You land a hit in DBFZ and its like ok now blocking this left right high low mix and if you dont this character is dead, and if you do block it, im gonna call an assist and make you block it again. Meanwhile sf6 the scariest thing your opponent can do is walk backwards and trick you into whiffing something.

no, i think the opposite actually. if either SF6 or DBFZ were primarily just about guessing better, we'd see a lot more tournaments with diamond-ranked Johnny Doughnuts in the top 8. no one can just guess better. both games are volatile to a certain extent, but that volatility can be overcome with sufficient skill, which is proven by the tournament results consistently featuring known high-ranked players.

which DBFZ season are we talking about here? because season 1 was "get a hit, route into level 3 or android 16 grab, then hold my unreactable four-way mixup on your hard knockdown". season 2 was "get a hit, route into snapback, then hold my unreactable universal fuzzy into snapback into unreactable fuzzy into snapback into... until i kill your whole team in 25% increments or you spark". all seasons have variants of "get a blockstring, then call yamcha or kid buu or just do tohan's autocombo + assist into unreactable 50/50 mix".

SF6 has mix has a reward for winning neutral because you should get a reward for winning neutral. if you guess right and defend correctly you can also turn the tide with a perfect parry into throw into the corner or mash out into level 3, etc. it's not so different.

Good insight. This is something I have also been thinking for a while. The way I see it, there are different philosophies when it comes to how much "guessing" a fighting game should have. Some might argue that guessing takes the autonomy away from the individuals and, therefore, is bad.

However, I disagree because, even though we call it, for lack of a better term, "guessing", I don't think it really is. Rather, whenever you "guess," you are actually engaging in a strategic risk analysis based on the data you have so far collected from the opponent. Do you have no data yet on your opponent? Blocking on wakeup is arguably the best decision. Has your opponent tried to DP reversal on wake-up 3 out of 4 times? Going for a shimmy every single time on your opponent's wake-up for the rest of the match might be the best decision, even if you guess wrong a couple of times along the way. To me, this strategic decision-making is one of the most fun aspects of fighting games, but reasonable minds would disagree.

Also, let me imagine an extreme scenario. If you design a fighting game that is 100% based on reactions, doesn't that mean that matches against top players with top-notch reactions will always end in a draw? Well, this is oversimplified because we have to consider the mental stack, but the point I am trying to make is that, sometimes, a little bit of "randomness" is required to make a game fun. Whether SF6 has just the right amount of "randomness" or not is up for debate.

I'll always upvote a Cora-A Gaming video.

I think one difference between old school and new players is this.

OGs grew up with arcades and home systems like SNES to play MK and Street Fighter 2. We didn't have dozens of fighting games to play. We also didn't have to worry about online ranks. We played and if we won great, if not we hopefully learned something for next time.

New players are too obsessed with getting to top online ranks in a month or less of play time. They seem to forget to "enjoy the journey". To any new player reading this, you can have just as much fun with the game in Bronze rank as you will in Master ranks. Try to learn something each day and go from there. You did buy this game to have fun, right?

EDIT: One more thing for the new players. Some of the OGs have nearly 3 decades playing Street Fighter type games. You won't get that type of knowledge overnight.

Holy shit ty

1. Practice execution. It doesnt need to be no 50 million hit combo but just make sure you have the fundamentals or the character you want to play down. Street Fighter usually isn't about super long combos.

2. Don't take losing too harshly, you're not at a tournament, you're at home just trying to learn. As long as you had a fun battle thats all that matters

3. Learn what other characters are capable of through playing against them so as soon as you see a character you can sort of expect a vague game plan from an opponent. (Ex: Zangief has super damaging command grabs so you might want to keep a good distance away and attack from range, JP is a nightmare and controls the fight with projectiles and traps but has trouble dealing with most opponents if they're super close so get in there and keep the pressure up)

4. Just keep playing, eventually you will learn it just takes time. The Capcom guides in game are super helpful but dont be afraid to look up some guides on YouTube too especially since they can really take your time guiding you through specific situations with a character.

5. Hell maybe watch some pro players. I watch them and sometimes they'll do things I never even considered trying with a character so it helps expand my ideas for what a character is capable of

6. If possible play with a friend and learn together

Oh I got you. Do these 3 things and it'll take you through the early ranks no problem:

1. Learn to anti air. People will try and abuse jump in at early ranks. Learn to consistently anti air and you'll completely shut some people down

2. Learn a simple 3-4 hit combo that ends in a special move. You'll use this to punish other players when they fuck up.

3. Pick one character and stick with them until you get them to at least gold (platinum would be better). Switching characters is very difficult early on.

Bonus: learn to counter DI. I'm lower ranks people will spam DI because it's effective at those ranks. If you learn to counter it, you'll dominate

That's it. Winning at lower ranks in street fighter is 100% fundamentals. You don't need long or fancy combos.

some small tips I've given to a brand new player (coming from playing basically my whole life)

1. no shame in modern controls! they're extremely effective, and require generally no warmup if you want to jump straight into ranked

2. learn at least one punish combo (if on modern, the heavy auto combo works great). punishing comes after your opponent swings and misses, or you block something that takes them a long time to recover (e.g. a dragon punch, or any super move)

3. learn one anti-air or they'll keep jumping at you. doesn't have to be a perfectly executed dragon punch. sometimes a crunching heavy punch works just as well, and is more reliable

4. if you're in the lower ranks, abuse drive impact. keep using it until the opponent convinces you otherwise :)

Fighting games are a long journey, but it's some of the most rewarding gaming I've ever done. Welcome to the club. :)

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Like other mention there are guides on YouTube. First few things I’d focus on improving are anti airing and reacting to drive impact. Newer players like to jump a lot and spam drive impact. I’d also suggest playing ranked as you will always play someone around your skill level. If you go into battle hub you might get matched against more experienced players.

If you go on YouTube and search for “Street Fighter 6 for beginners” or “how to get better at fighting games” you’ll find a lot of really helpful vids that break down fundamentals for the genre! Here’s one SF6 vid from Brian_F that I think is really good: https://youtu.be/MK-AJyD1XKk?si=CwQ5M39-QXrL8kMn

And this is another one from Justin Wong, who is one of the best fighting game players in the world: https://youtu.be/24mC37_vgxY?si=7dD10xdRrdeFB1Wk

Both of those are really good at breaking down the game in a way that makes it feel a lot more approachable, as I know from experience that fighting games can be a bit daunting when you’re starting to get into them. So I’d say to watch those videos as well as videos from other content creators (Diaphone is another one of my favorites), and also just like watch some matches. EVO just happened recently so you can find the top 6 finals from this year on YouTube, I found that for myself it was really helpful to watch those higher level matches after watching beginner guides because that helped me to understand some stuff a bit better seeing it play out on a higher level, because at higher levels of play those fundamentals of the genre are absolutely still at play.

And most importantly, remember to have fun! If you’re just in it trying to get wins fast it can get frustrating, but if you just accept that you’re gonna get your ass handed to you for a while and just enjoy the journey of getting better, you’re gonna have a fun time and it’ll feel so much more rewarding when you start ranking up!