Trixie Cosmetics has some of the best liners for bold looks, I’d recommend the Hotline gel liner.

I recommend the Fenty Beauty Flyliner Longwear. I bought this for my wedding makeup, and ended up not using it because I don’t have the skill and it is UNFORGIVING. It is cemented to your face, I hope you got it symmetrical on the first try.

NYX epic wear liner (with the little inkwell pot) is literally like a tattoo. If you can handle that type of liner, you must try it.

I have heavily hooded, oily lids, and it is the only thing that truly stays put.

It stays put so well, in fact, that the biggest problem is trying to get it off at the end of the day. 😭

(If you can’t handle the inkwell type of liner, then I would go with Maybelline 24h tattoo eyeliner. It was way better than KVD, Stila, and NYX epic ink liners for me.)

Pretty cheap: Catrice Eyeliner Calligraph Pro Precise 24h Matt Waterproof 010 Intense Black, 1,2 ml

Not fully proof of everything but it held on during rain for me, it holds on while working as a bartender and being over the hot steaming dishwasher super often. Only cost like 4€ in Germany, definetly worth a try at least!

Set with black eyeshadow. MAC is best but the NYX black is a good runner up.

Setting spray to finish entire face. I used to be a fan of Urban Decay all nighter but now it’s skindinavia setting spray. UD changed the formula. Skindinavia is what UD used to be.

I take my angled liner/brow brush and carefully put brown shadow over my liner to set it. My eyes are not hooded, but they tend to water quite a bit.

Do you use primer or concealer prior to eyeliner?

I have the Stila stay all day eyeliner and it’s been my favorite so far. I see you already use a primer you like, so keep using that, but when paired with urban decay primer potion my eyeliner stays put for 12 solid hours. I couldn’t be more pleased with the staying power.

This is compared to when I used a karity primer and an elf eyeliner that would smudge on my oily lids after 2 hrs.

Honestly, some lip liners just disappear quick. You gotta buy the ones that emphasize lasting power. For example, the Rimmel Lasting Finish and the Maybelline Color Sensational last through eating, drinking and lip gloss applications all day in my experience. Whereas my MAC one just disappears.

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Apply gloss first, blot it down, then go in with liner to define and fill. This can help the liner grip better.

For liquid, Stila stay all day is my fav, KVD is probably second but I feel that it’s more inconsistent and can dry out too fast. Stila is my go to though.

I really recommend not using any eyeliner or mascara under your eyes, give it a shot, try it for a few weeks and see if you think you look younger and more awake and just brighter.

I used eyeliner in my waterline for decades and only recently realized I legitimately looks so much better without it.

And not needing to use anything on the lower lashes or any lower eyeliner made smudges completely disappear for me!

The only thing that has ever helped me with long-lasting eyeliner was a great primer and setting spray and touch-ups on the water line throughout the day.

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My favorite one so far is the Sephora brand sharpen-able one. It actually still looks like it’s on many hours later, and I have super watery eyes. The retractable one isn’t great on the waterline, but I like it for my top lids.

For me, Melt Slick Waterline liners are the undisputed best. They go on smoothly in 1 swipe and last forever.

From the drugstore, I like the Maybelline Tattoo Studio Smokey Gel Pencil - the sharpenable PENCIL, not the retractable version.

I found technique made a huge difference. I got the Charlotte Tilbury pillow talk eye pencil and it would wipe away the colour on the second swipe or sometimes not even deposit colour i the first place BUT then I tried warming it up first and it suddenly worked. It was like a whole different product.

I do get a teeny bit that rubs off right on the outer corner, but for the most part it stays put. Maybe give it a go and see if it helps? Saves you having to spend more if it works and if it doesn't, at least you know for sure it's the product that's the issue.

I've also heard good things about the Victoria Beckham satin kajals and they seem promising from when I've swatched them in store, so I'm going to try one of them next.

not drugstore but i had pretty good luck with urban decay pencil

I mega dry my waterline with a QTIP and immediately go in with a warmed up eyeliner (run it a few times on the back of your hand) and I TRY to get it dark enough in as little passes as possible. Again. Immediately after the QTIP. This has helped me so much. I use the wet and wild breakup proof one and it’s probably not that great but this tip helps so much. Also no clue why not doing a ton of swatches in your waterline helps. Heard once and I think it helped

Edit: CAREFULLY set with black eyeshadow. Make sure it’s tapped off before putting it on. This seals my eyes all night.

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Primer

It sounds like you may have oily lids. You might benefit from trying a different brand or waterproof style

Eye makeup primer! I like the fenty by rihanna one from Sephora.

Eyeshadow primer first and setting powder after!

Here a tip that is a bit out there. Use lash glue first, wait for it to dry and than use your eyeliner on top. I use it for events/partying when I know i will sweat a Lot.

not really a tip but i recommend the nyx epic wear eyeliner, it’s lasted me through multiple sobbing sessions and never smudged!

I found the gel liners used to last wayyy longer on my water line. If you want pencil form, I use the Clinique eyeliner and it’s a little expensive but lasts a good while.

Try wiping the the waterline dry with a q-tip before applying:) creates a strong base to hold.

I haven't worn waterline eye-liner in a long time but when I did, I used to set it with powder. Slightly uncomfortable at first but it works fairly well

This is an impossible task. I wish any eyeliner would stay on longer on the water line.

The best ones I’ve tried are either the Benefit Badgal Bang 24 hour waterproof eyeliner, or the Live Tinted Hueliner Longwearing Kajal pencil liner!! Both are super black and creamy but once they dry down they don’t budge.  I don’t know why people always recommend the Urban Decay one lol it smudges so bad 

Anastasia matte liquid liner is the most pigmented black liner I've seen that Ulta carries. I often show guests that liner and they always buy it. I try it on my hand to show them and as the day progresses, I wash my hands and that liner doesn't budge.

Mabeline tattoo gel one

Milani ! I have used a lot of brands & it works well for me. I use it only for tight lining.