Understanding Trout Behavior
Trout in rivers tend to hide behind rocks or in calm waters where the current is slowed. They prefer areas where food is brought to them with minimal energy expenditure [1:1]
[1:3]. This means fishing near rocks, at the edges of fast water, and in pools can be effective. Presenting your bait or lure naturally, mimicking the natural food chain, is crucial
[1:3].
Choosing the Right Gear and Techniques
For spinning setups, inline spinners and small minnows are popular choices [5]. Rooster tails and super dupers have also been used successfully
[3]. Fly fishing is recommended by many anglers as it allows you to mimic insects that trout feed on
[4:2]
[5:1]. Using Rapala Countdown lures that match native minnows can be particularly effective in deeper pools
[4:1].
Fishing Strategy
Fishing upstream and allowing your lure or bait to flow naturally through target areas is a common strategy [1:3]
[3:5]. Observing the river system, including insect hatches, water temperature, and recent rainfall, can provide valuable insights
[3:2]. Moving frequently and fishing seams between fast and slow water can increase your chances of success
[2:2].
Safety and Preparation
Safety should always be a priority when fishing rivers. Inform someone of your plans, carry essentials like a safety whistle, lighter, and headlamp, and keep emergency supplies like a wool blanket in your vehicle [3:1]. Spending time studying the river and its ecosystem can enhance your understanding and improve your angling skills
[3:2].
Local Knowledge and Guides
If you're new to river fishing, consider hiring a guide for the specific river you plan to fish. This can significantly reduce the learning curve and help you understand local conditions and techniques [2:4]. Additionally, keeping up with stocking reports and regulations can inform you about the presence of stocked or wild trout in your area
[1:2].
Grew up bottom fishing a lot of lakes and reservoirs, but wanting to try and get into fishing some of the local rivers around. Any tips on what to look for in a good area or specific baits, lures to use? From what I’ve researched it’s mostly rainbow and brown trout in these rivers.
Good advice here. Unless you live in west, rainbow are stocked fish and will go after trout nuggets etc because it’s similar to what the ate in the hatchery. Brown can be wild or stocked . Even the wilds are introduce. The brown is native to Europe. But unlike stocker rainbow which don’t readily reproduce in the wild, brown trout do reproduce. In Connecticut the brown could be either wild or stocked. One needs to keep up on the stocking reports. Wild trout are mostly caught with flies. However I have caught browns and rainbows with inline spinners such as the the Mepps lure and the kastmaster silver or gold spoons. Remember trout are easily spooked. Walk quietly and slowly on the banks, stay low, don’t wear bright colors, and if you wade, do so deliberately and slowly. Fish upstream and let the bait come back toward you. Wade up stream . Approach it this way. If the trout sees you, he is gone. Stealth is important in fresh water fishing but even more so in river stream fishing for trout .
Trout want to expend as little energy as possible while having food brought to them. So they stage where the current is slowed but really close to the fast current. Fish the edges of fast water, behind rocks in the current, in front of rocks, and fish in the main current where there are no rocks as there will be rocks below creating perfect spots that you can't see.
Your bait or lure should be presented naturally as possible like a tasty morsel floating at the whims of the current.
Fish upstream, allow lure/bait to flow through target area naturally, repeat.
Stocked trout will hit the Berkeley dough, trout magnets, worms, corn, etc. Wild trout will hit your dreams and crush them with their abstain of your fishing prowess.
This advice also work for river smallmouth bass.
In my experience wild trout hit worms, salmon eggs and flies. Don't bother with luminescent garlic scented glitter bait, they'll just stop eating entirely. I've also seen a wild trout hit the sinker and ignore the bait, so ymmv. They're not smart fish.
Wild trout sound like jerks!
I’ve found that most trout hide behind rocks in the river, and wait for food to come to them. These rocks usually create mini waterfalls and that’s where they hide and wait, or they’ll stay in calm waters where there is a soft flow coming into it, I just lug a work, fly, any bug that is around that river. Right into the river and just let it float to the fish, Usually works for me, but you can try all kinds of things. Just remember, they go for bugs and worms that naturally fell into the river, so your goal is to mimic the natural food chain as much as possible.
Any tips for fishing streams and rivers. It’s very confusing.
I’m pretty new at fly fishing (a little over a year but still feel really green) so take this all with a grain of salt...
I love fishing rivers and streams! I’m still trying to figure out nymphing but have had a lot of fun with dry flies and spend most of my time on moving water. A few tips that have really changed my game (trout specific):
Are there fish? - make certain that your river has fish and is in a stage that they will feed. Check water temp (above 50), river level (is it too high and blown out?), and make certain that the system holds fish (many streams and rivers have suffered from human influences such as agricultural runoff and vegetation removal).
Find the fish - read books and look up videos (Orvis has some great ones) about prospecting for trout and where fish like to hold in a river. Many times fish won’t be actively rising but will still take a well presented dry if you know where they are.
Don’t screw up - are you doing all you can to not spook the fish? Stealth is your friend, don’t splash around. How is your presentation? Practice accurate casting and know the roll cast like the back of your hand for those tight spaces.
Know the river - different types of rivers fish differently due to food abundance and seasonal variations. Headwater or tailwater? Freestone or spring creek? Do some research on how to fish these different systems (again, Orvis learning center is your friend) and modulate your strategies and expectations accordingly.
If you like small streams, get used to small fish (and the occasional river monster) - ‘nuff said
Use the right gear and experiment - establish your go-to flies and if you don’t see a hatch use those as searching patterns (my current 4 are Royal Wulff 14-16, BWO 16-20, Parachute Adams 16-20, Orange Stimulator 12-16). Don’t be afraid to experiment, on a creek near my house I changed from 5x to 6x and began catching fish that were 1-2 inches larger (6 in is 2 inches larger than 4in, right? ����)
Things not working? Try moving and check your stealth/presentation before changing flies. Still not working? Change your gear to lighter tippet, smaller (or sometimes larger) fly, different day. Still no luck? Make sure temps and time of day are conducive to catching fish (times of day depend on weather and time of year). Still no luck? Again, make certain your stream actually contains fish.
Go out, have fun, and remember that even without landing a fish a day on the river is still better than a day almost anywhere else.
If you are ever in Oregon (mid-Willamette valley) let me know and we’ll go wet a line together.
Thanks for the info! Yeah it’s really just the streams and rivers that confuse me, especially when I know there are fish. Ponds I can catch fish all day. But something about the river gives me an extra sense of happiness. thanks for the offer I’m 15 so chances of being in Oregon is slim to none since I’m in md.
I definitely get that sense of happiness on rivers! There is certainly something amazing about catching native fish (be sure to release, they will be even bigger next time!). Fish the seams and move a lot, you’ll get it.
Get a guide on the river you are fishing. It will cut years of learning curve.
Bring plenty of split shot and mend mend mend
Here’s a good video to start out with. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=df5jCGSeKV4
Recently moved to the California central valley and am learning to fish the rivers in the area. I'm from Southern California and have only fished for trout in the local lakes there and alpine lakes in the Sierra, never on a river.
Fished the lower Stanislaus River today and was using some small lures (rooster tail and a super duper), casting upstream and slowly retrieving and caught one small rainbow.
Any tips or different techniques I could try to improve my chances?
Also, would a Carolina rig work well in a river? I've had luck with those in lakes with mouse tails and power bait.
Are you familiar with joke structure? This is not that. Spending time learning about your particular river system, learning what insects are hatching, water temperature fluctuations, recent rainfall, hydrology, water quality, time and migration of particular species, also just familiarizing yourself with the surrounding geography. This is basic stuff. No jokes.
Sure, blind casting a mepps at a random pool in the river will work sometimes too.
You don't need an expensive setup, although that's what a fly-fishing shop would try to sell you. I have two rods: a 7wt 50-year-old fiberglass pole that I bought as a young teen for about $12, and a 3wt carbon-fiber pole I bought for $70 about 15 years ago. Throw in an identical pair of Pflueger Medalist reels and I'm all set.
Here's a hint for when you're ready: go shopping for a nice pole and check out several, getting a feel for the casting action, bend and flex... but don't bite! Then go to a decent sporting goods store and do it again. You can get a nice rod with good action without the big name price tag.
Super cool spot. Spinners an crankbaits
Thanks, I'll try those out! Same technique, just cast upstream?
Yeah always work up stream but ya might sit at the top of the waterfall area and do a slow retrieve
I have dishes that river many times when I loved in San Jose. My best spots were up from Knights Ferry . And also about a mile down stream form there. If you go up to the C/R section of the river. Some big bows hang there. 4 to 6 lbs
I was just up at Knights Ferry today actually. What's the C/R section? Sounds like where I need to go next.
I can’t really remember. It’s been so many years ago. But if you look at the regulations it should tell you. You can also drive to part of it. I will have to look at a map.
Fly fish
Safety is #1. Let someone know your plan, keep a safety whistle, lighter, headlamp all close by. I keep a wool blanket in my trunk for emergencies.
#2. Study the river, spending many hours on a river system observing the complex orchestra of nature occurring at that particular site will inevitably provide you with insight that will help with angling.
Number 2 is great, but you'll learn way more by throwing on a 1/8oz panther martin and just getting out there.
Edit: didn't mean to do bold. I guess the hashtag makes it bold lol
Red hook and eggs. Either float or sink.
In small creeks, tiny lead weights, a fishing hook and a worm works. But in rivers, i can't for the life of me catch anything. I did manage to catch a trout with a spinning spoon, but that's about it. Meanwhile bait just doesn't seem to work. should i switch to fly fishing?
Decades ago, when I lived in N. VT, I normally fished mountain creeks - usually with worms. However, in larger rivers I often switched to the Rapala Countdown lures 1" - 1.5". These lures were a perfect match for the native minnows in the rivers, and in deep pools could be allowed to sink for a few seconds before retrieval. I'd target early mornings - especially after a light rain.
I caught larger trout [browns/rainbow/brook] but my brother did much better. In PA, on a small river, he nailed a 7+ lb. brown. Good luck.
thx. i'm considering fly fishing bc i've mostly been seeing trouts eat insects at the surface. Once, i even threw a dead beetle in the river, and a trout immediately jumped to get it
Y/W. I tried the same thing. Bought a rod/reel/line kit - practiced on the lawn - and gave fly fishing a try. I found, it just wasn't for me.
Hi all,
I started fishing earlier this year and have really been enjoying it. Back in June, I managed to catch a few brown trout in the River Liffey around Newbridge, but I haven’t had any luck since then.
I’ve mostly been using spinners and small minnows, but lately, nothing seems to be working. I’m wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience?
I’d really appreciate any advice on trout fishing in rivers—what gear, lures, or techniques you find effective. Also, if anyone has tips on good spots to set up in Kildare, I’d be very grateful.
Thanks in advance
Fly fishing is my personal favourite thought it’s completely different to spinning. On a spinning setup you could try fishing with flies and a bubble if local angling rules allow ot
Like most things, fishing takes time and eventually you’ll become better through taking in knowledge and via experience.
Everyone has flat spells too and it could be the conditions or just bad luck.
Hey everyone,
I’m pretty new to fishing. I’ve been targeting bass lately, but I’m taking a trip up to Bolton, NY and will be fishing on the Schroon River. My main target will still be bass, but I’m also thinking of trying for trout since I’ve never fished for them before.
For those of you familiar with trout fishing (especially in rivers like the Schroon):
I’ll be shore fishing and probably moving along the bank, so any location/approach tips are appreciated.
Thanks in advance – just looking to learn before I get up there!
Mostly trout stocked in Schroon River below lake although some bass and pike in slow sections but not much access there. There’s not a ton of shore access on the Schroon anyway but try along Schroon River road and at Starbuckville Dam. Best bet is drifting worms in the current with one or two split shot or casting lures across and swinging downstream while retrieving slowly. Lures would be small spinners like Mepps and Panther Martins or small gold or silver spoons.
It’s a bit late in the season for trout on the Schroon as it’s lower and probably fairly warm. It’s stocked in spring and managed as a ‘put and take’ fishery because trout don’t holdover through summer as well. There are some good sized fish though and an occasional landlocked salmon drop down from lake. Best bet is the big pool below Starbuckville. Have fun!
Thank you! Schroon River road is exactly where ill be for the trip, just south of the Starbuckville Dam so hopefully I get some luck. Thanks for the insight
The Schroon River is at the lowest and warmest it’s been in years. Trout are in cold water refuge holding on for dear life. Fish the lower schroon or Hudson River in Warrensburg for smallmouth bass, they are a blast. Or head north to the boreas river, north of Schroon Lake.
I went river fishing for the first time the other day in area with abundant numbers of trout (rainbow and brown) Rudd Perch and Koi Carp. Spent literally the whole day out at multiple locations with no success tried multiple different lures softbaits and even just tried a bait and float with out luck. What did I do wrong???
I should probably note I did see some strange fish behaviour I had the trout following the small spinner lure and then they would get close then dart away. Is that indicative of anything?
how close to the edge of the river would they get? could they see you on the bank? trout are very skiddish and if they see you , will run
I am new so I am the wrong person to ask, can only comment off of experience. But, I have a lot of failures and successes. Realized it was not a bait fish and or didn’t hit it on a reactionary bite. I do not know if you just had a big snow melt, time of day, rain, location, all that helps you figure it out.
It could've been turned off by the action of the lure, a shadow, maybe it saw your line, or something else. Catching fish is often about reducing the reasons that would stop a fish from committing, but then sometimes everything could be accounted for and they still won't commit.
I don't know where you are at, but in my area, northern California, specifically El dorado County, the rainbow trout have just completed their spawning and the browns started a week ago, and no one is biting around here at this time. I'm trying to wait it out soon soon.. good luck to all.
I live in NZ and our trout don't spawn until April May. I've read conflicting information that suggests even though the fish bite less when spawning in NZ it makes for great fishing because when they do bite it's out of aggression? Anyways a good point definitely got me researching to figure out what's going on. I've just spent three days fishing all over my local area with different lures and I've had no bites nothing. I'm starting to think the problem is me
I have been feeling the same way lately, 1 month ago, I was fishing in the 3 spots of mine and had yielded 25 trout in a month, 2 to 3 per visit, 16 inches, or better rainbow and brown. In the past 3 weeks, nothing I have had a portable fish finder and know they are there but no bites or interest in eating. Any tips.? I have used live bait, Nightcrawlers, spinners, soft plastic, everything I could think of, but being a beginner, my arsenal may be weak.
Best of luck 👍, it's always a struggle to get a good, reliable honey hole, with the water levels constantly changing at my old honey hole. The water has risen twenty ft. From the rainfall we've had here over the past few months, so I'm hunting for new spots constantly. Good luck
Finally caught my first fish on bait.
Little kahawai. Time to get one on a lure now!
Still nothing, dude, that sucks. I switched to using rooster tails and panther Martin's. My last one was on the rooster tail. A friend told me to use Dubai roaches or crickets if you want to get bites. They swear by them, and I'm going to try some out this Saturday when I go out again. I'll keep you posted if I catch anything, but try those bugs ago.
Yea I'll have to gather some bugs can't just buy them in NZ unfortunately. I'm thinking I'm going to have to try some different fishing spots a bit further a field and see how I get on.
I caught this. This morning going back out for more
Just wondering what other people do when they fish a river and the water is really high
First thing I do is I wade out to knee deep water, then look down to see if I can see my feet. This is a good guide to tell if the water is clear enough for fishing.
When the current is up, trout try to avoid fighting against it. They often hug the bottoms and sometimes even move towards the edges. The food comes to them so they rarely move far.
I also fish slightly heavier lures which make a bit of sound. The weight is to make sure they reach the bottom, and the noise to assists in getting the trouts attention.
Lastly, bright orange lures work well when the water is cloudy.
Okay sweet thanks for the advice!
I usually work edges with a spinner, Small jerk bait, and a jig Seconding the provo bounce if it’s tough-
Also look for structure Under cut banks, trees ect
Look up the Provo River bounce rig. Game changer for fishing a river with high flows.
Definitely will check it out!
Hi all, need some advice. I found a stretch of river near me and pre baited for a week, there are now 5/7, 12lb carp there. Now Ive got them there I can't seem to catch them. I'm usually a lake angler so not used to river to much. I've tried spam, bread, pop ups, maggots, worms boilies. I've tried long hook length and short hook length. Tried Ronnie rigs, standard hair rigs, multi rig. The spot is basically a downstream stretch so have to fish upstream, I thought maybe the lineovement in current may be spooking them so I tried a back lead and that didn't help either. Any ideas welcomed
River carp, you just want knotless knot, 20lb braid and patience. Boilies or meat will take them. Do they know you're there? Sounds a daft question, but carp get alot harder to catch when they know their been fished for. Just try and sneak the rig in, sit well back and be patient. Every time you go and look at them, they are probably spotting you, making them harder to catch.
Start with whatever you were baiting with. I stick to maize, chickpeas or boilies. My river isn't large but sometimes you need distance and all of the above attracts fish and flies well. My setup is strong becasue my river is overgrown and full of snags. Try 8-9 inches of soft-coated braid and a simple hair rig. 3 pieces of maize or 1 16/20 mm boilie. Tight clutch so they don't run into snags.
Tricky if you can't get upstream of them, you are always casting against the flow.
Personally I only use balanced baitd on rivers, so a wafter and like a slip d, combi or similar. Presentation I think is more natural.Used on a heli set up.
Anyway you get above them, free lining bread will work as well, drift it down.
Wafter and casting one-two hours before the usual pre baiting time, it leads them to come “on time” at least it’s the way it works for me in France
You’ve already sorted “find the fish” from the sound of things. Honestly, on rivers simple and strong is the way to go. Running lead or groundbait feeder, with a foot or two hooklength (I like a soft fluorocarbon, but coated braid works too) and a standard hair rig. Boilie or pellet (boilie will stay on the hook much longer) are good options for bait.
Rivers are easy once you learn a couple things about how they form and function imo.
Rivers wind in constant bends to greater or lesser degree along the path of least resistance, eroding a channel as they do. Most of the time there is a main channel where the current is fastest, this erodes the outside of a bend. A sandbar will form on the inside of the bend opposite the main channel.
Now you know how to judge where the water is deep and where is shallow.
Humans usually exercise control over flooding, so you need to learn the source of your water and how activity upstream influences your experience. Ime, droughts and floods can severely effect fishing in good and bad ways each. Droughts reveal the deepest holes and structure and concentrated the fish, but if they stay concentrated too long the total population crashes, but great fishing initially. Floods are dangerous and can utterly alter your honey holes, even change course entirely; they shut down fishing for awhile, but they also bring new fish to restock your honey holes.
A kayak will grant you much greater fishing opportunities, especially if you can buddy up and park a vehicle downstream to fish between road crossings.
Poison ivy is a scourge.
Aerial imagery let's you view rivers in drought years to find deep holes not visible otherwise.
..
I own a fishing kayak because I typically do lake fishing. I have a pretty decent anchor installed to it and was considering taking it to the river and just anchoring myself in the middle where the water isn't going too fast. That way, I'd have access to cast to the entire width of the river and be able to reel lures up the center of the river...
Do you think this would be a worthwhile investment in effort?
Also, your suggestion about aerial imagery during droughts is a great point! Thank you for that!!!
Forgot to add, anchoring for extended periods is losing the advantage of a kayak, which is to fish unpressured areas up or downstream. Paddle up and fish down or fish down and paddle up.
Contextually it might be a good way to hold position on a particularly good hole, but I never needed more than rope or a Bungie cord to tie off to something with.
I have a ~8ft pole I use for saltwater, jam it in mud or sand to tie off on, push pole for rocks, beating stick if need be.
I tried using a bright yellow top water lure with a rattle, and I also tried a gold and red spinner. I'm glad to hear you suggest those ones because I was worried I had made a silly mistake!
Its fun to think about how a fish would be viewing my lure or be attracted to it. You got a couple good lures to start with. I learned to look at topographic maps and understand how the water flows and where there are slow spots. Rapids have lots of opportunities too!
Don’t overthink it just get fishing with what your confident with.
Sometimes this is the best advice. Just throw something out.
Conversely, you could look up native fish for this river and ecosystem and match lures/bait accordingly to bait fish, insects and reptiles in the area.
Most importantly...Just have fun.
I think it's important to know what kind of fish lives there and go from there. No sense fishing for bass/trout/pike if only catfish lives there or vice-versa.
I'm not too familiar with the lingo yet... when you say bottom rig, is it just weighting the hook so it sinks and stays on the bottom? And use a nightcrawler so it will try to wriggle and get a bottom dweller to scoop it up?
Yes if you look it up it’s a pretty simple rig but I’d use a Carolina rig with a half to 1oz egg sinker and a 1/0 circle hook or bait holder hook that’s around the size of a quarter then thread a nightcrawler and wait
Don't be disheartened about just casting and honing you skills while seeing whats in the water. I had an aggressive catfish hit my texas rig with craw.
Trout fishing tips for rivers
Here are some essential tips for trout fishing in rivers:
Know the Water:
Choose the Right Gear:
Bait and Lures:
Casting Techniques:
Be Stealthy:
Time Your Fishing:
Recommendation: Consider using a combination of live bait and spinners to maximize your chances. Experiment with different depths and locations until you find where the trout are biting. Always check local regulations for specific rules about fishing seasons and limits. Happy fishing!
Get more comprehensive results summarized by our most cutting edge AI model. Plus deep Youtube search.