Current Population of France
As of the latest available data, the population of France is approximately 67 million people. This figure includes both the mainland and overseas territories. The exact number can fluctuate due to factors such as birth rates, death rates, and immigration patterns.
Historical Context and Population Dynamics
Historically, France has experienced significant population changes. For instance, in 1800, the population was around 47 million, which included temporary holdings from the Revolutionary Wars [2:2]. Over time, various factors like industrialization and urban migration have influenced demographic shifts within the country
[1:4].
Regional Population Distribution
France's population is unevenly distributed across its regions. Central France tends to be less populated compared to northern and southern parts of the country, often referred to as the "Empty Diagonal" [3:1]. Additionally, overseas territories contribute to the overall population count, with regions like Mayotte experiencing rapid growth due to high birth rates and immigration
[3:10].
Ethnic Composition and Statistics
France does not officially collect statistics on ethnicity, considering it potentially discriminatory [5:3]. However, there are estimates based on nationality and geographic origin that suggest a diverse population composition, including individuals from overseas territories and immigrants from non-European countries
[5:1]
[5:3].
For the most accurate and up-to-date information, consulting official sources such as the French National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies (INSEE) or Eurostat is recommended.
How were Normandy and Brittany so populous at that time?? They're mostly rural holiday regions nowadays.
Well exactly that. People moved towards the main industrial centers during industrialization, especially when considering how centralized France is. Also it's one of the few countries without a gigantic population boom, so there was never a turn over as people left for the cities.
"Without a gigantic population boom"?
Correction: France experienced 2 major population booms:
The 1st was right before Napoleon as medicine became widespread and infant mortality dropped while birthrates kept high, that's how Napoleon was able to field such large numbers of men, by the time he comes to power, there's a fuckton of young men from that demographic shift.
The 2nd was during the baby boom, where France famously had a period of 30 (actually 28) years of a demographic and economic boom between 1945 and 1973, this is known as "Les Trente Glorieuses" (the Glorious 30) in France.
Interesting! I was expecting Île-de-France to be a bit more populated. Hmm, was everyone trying to escape to Britain?🤔
Paris is dark green if you zoom in. And all of Paris was still restricted to the area within the walls back then.
Was confused about Paris, until I zoomed in and saw it was dark green under the label
Interesting how relatively empty the Netherlands was at that time, with the Rhineland and northern France being much more populated than the Netherlands.
Origins of the Chile/Croatia strategy of "fuck your coastline"
As u/sataniel98 said the population of the core of France is much lower, about 27 million people.
As for your other question you might find this other answer interesting: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1wn9qr/why_did_the_french_population_grow_much_less_than/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
And this answer has a number of links to other similar questions that could answer it more in depth: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1mwlvq/why_did_frances_population_stagnate_in_the_1800s/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
> As u/ sataniel98 said...
That comment has been removed apparently. Was it about revolutionary/Napoleonic départements outside the borders of modern France?
Ah. Pretty much, it was about the fact that the wikipedia article breaks down the population and shows that the French Republic itself had about 27 million people and that the rest is from their temporary holdings that they took in the Revolutionary Wars as well as colonies.
I’d be fascinated to know if there’s any scholarship on whether this population boom impacted the subsequent revolutionary violence in France, especially in light of the preceding crop failures that I’ve heard contributed to the population’s dissatisfaction with their rulers. I regret that I know next to nothing about the history of France, so I apologize if this is a rudimentary question.
Disclaimer: I have not done much research on 18th century French history. However, I will address your question regarding population and revolutionary violence through the lens of the relationship between population and wages. I am an Economics student at the University of Michigan finishing the last 4 credits of my undergraduate
TL;DR - Suppose you have an economic boom for France around 1750-1770. Their birth rate rises and death rate falls, and thus population rises relatively dramatically during that period. However, that heightened population starts putting downward pressure on wages toward the 1780s and 1790s, and you potentially get heightened civil unrest (as product of falling wages) that culminates in the French Revolution
You can look at the Malthusian model, which was starting to become obsolete around the time of the French Revolution but still provides some useful insight
You see that income rising raises population by increasing birth rate and decreasing death rate, since birth rate is positively related with income and death rate is negatively related with income. This is fairly intuitive
You can look at a Ricardian model [source: my Demographics Economics professor Elyce Rotella] to see the negative relationship between population and wage - as you increase population, you introduce a downward pressure on wages. This follows the law of diminishing returns - as you have more labor input, it's progressively worth less and less, hence wages go down as you have more people working
Using these two, synthesize that economic booms without exogenous shifts in economic production (like technological innovation) always lead to contractions where wages and population return to their original pre-boom values, and thus you have brief periods where more people are born for a period, and then more people die for a following period (not just because more people were born before, but because wages are low and people just die from starvation or something). So, in our hypothetical situation, there was a boom in the mid 18th century that leads to falling wages and heightened death rates in the late 18th century, and that contributes to civil unrest.
Bonus application: in events where you have a single exogenous shift in economic production, you will eventually end up with more people, but the same pre-innovation wages. If you subscribe to Malthusian philosophy, you understand that wages and standard of living were relatively constant for thousands of years until the Industrial Revolution, where compounding and constant technological innovation allows us to live lives with much higher standard of living than 100 years ago
Check the great answer by /u/etan-tan, they brought most of the point I would have want to talk about, there is just one idea I think I can add however. For context I have a licence degree in history from France and took a great class on the religious anthropology of France from the Revolution to the council of Vatican 2.
What I want to outline is the corrolation between three maps, the maps of priests who refused to signe the national convention of the clergy during the Revolution, the map "Boulard" which represent the result of the years long investigation by the Catholic church on the state of religious practice in 1947 and finally the map of the current rate of children by women in 2003-2007. I would have prefere to include a map of the rate of children by women during the 19th century but I can't find it in my files. Religious antrhoplogic study have, since the 60s, studied the correlation between the area where most priest refused the convention, chiefly due to it's requirement to be loyal to the State first, and the area that the 1947 marked as still very heavily practicing. Those area can be packed in four zone : Brittany, Alsace, the north (Pas-de-Calais) and the center. There is also a correlation with the birth rate map that shows those area tend to have a higher natality rate. This tend to lend credance to the idea of a cululral factor in the comparable low birth rate in France compared to other country. Now, I am very carefull with this because it is very much in debate within the accademical community. And it is by any means the sole or major explenation, but it has gathered more and more interest in the last two decade as a possible subject for further research.
The map of conventional priest where lighter shade indicate higher rate of refracarian priest
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Really surprised by French overseas. Thought they all but Guiana to be less than 100 thousands
On top of that you can add ~ 400 to 500 thousands for the territories which aren't departments (New Caledonia, Wallis et Futuna, French Polynesia, Saint-Martin, Saint-Barthélemy, Saint-Pierre et Miquelon)
Also, Martinique and Guadeloupe also have about half a million descendants in the european France (like Thierry Henry)
Yeah Jesus Christ, look at reunion. Never expected more than 10k
Wait until you realize how diverse it is
Whites, blacks (from East, AND West Africa), malgaches (who are already mixed between black and south east asian), tamil, muslim gujarati from India, chinese, and all kinds of mixtures in the middle
Google "Myheritage Reunion Island" on Youtube, you get guys with 14 different DNA clusters spread all across Europe, Asia and Africa
Fun fact: Mayotte has the fastest growing population in the World.
The population doubled in 20 years, and went from 260k in 2017 to 320k in 2024.
This is due to several things:
A birth rate of more than 4 per woman
High comorian illegal immigration (by boats called "kwassa kwassa"), especially from the neighboring comorian island of Anjouan (comorian illegals)
More specifically, comorian women immigrating over there to give birth, resulting in more than 60 % of births on the island being from comorian women (making the hospital of Mamoudzou the hospital where the most babies are born)
old people having access to french hospitals to stay alive, unlike other high birth rates african regions
Why is central France less populated than the southern and northern regions?
This map gives a very distorted view of the territories' population by grouping big metropolis with much more empty land. Those two central regions in green are rather small, and don't have a major city, and that's enough to put them at the bottom of the list; but it's nothing exceptional compared to the rest of what is sometimes referred to as the Diagonale du vide, the Empty diagonal.
Here is a finer-grained population map
Yes but the question remains. Why are there no big cities there? Is it forests? Lack of major bodies of water? Mountains?
Ah, the ugly new regions !
I remember when they changed them. "Greater Aquitaine Empire Nouvelle-Aquitaine will be larger than Austria or Portugal" they said. Really, they actually sold it like that. They were so happy of their own genius idea at the Conseil Régional
Nouvelle-Nouvelle-Aquitaine will be larger than the Moon
Nouvelle-Aquitaine and Occitanie should be in orange, right ?
Mostly French.
I got a real Eiffel with that one
When you say non-European do you mean France d'outre-mer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_France)?
Je pense qu'il/elle voulait dire les personnes résidant en France ou ayant la nationalité française mais originaires de pays hors Europe.
France refuses to do statistics on ethnicity, because it would be racist. Which means we have no numbers, and it makes it really hard to point systemic racism... (like, the number of POC in prison compared to non-POC, or the average income depending on race, or the median lifespan... no stats on any of that.)
We do have some stats on nationality, see https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_en_France
From what I gathered, statistics on ethnicity may be unconstitutional, but there are some work-arounds used to have a basic idea of population composition, like names, geographic origin, feeling of belonging to a group... This all seems pretty blurry though.
We have no ethnic statistics so no idea , most of the number you can find on the web a probably wrong
French⊆European ∴ { x ∊ French | x ∉ European } = ∅
Mostly French.
It’s the same as the population of anywhere... it’s the number of people living there.
About 67 million
Ouais pas mal, bof qd mm
Baguettes
Baguette
So it looks like most people in France live only in one city, but why? Was the rest of the land too harsh to settle in?
Most people live outside of Paris, it's just a representation of density. There are 11M inhabitants in the metropolitan area of Paris, so 57M leave outside, in the very harsh, difficult to settle in rest of the land
But yes, France is very centralised
So then why the rest of the land is not that densely populated?
France is super centralised compared to other countries: government institutions, media and big company HQs are all based in Paris. Also many high-paying jobs only exist there, it is also a major tourist destination; all of that creates demand for many other jobs (cleaning, restaurants, etc…), so yeah, a lot of people live in the Greater Paris (about 12 million or roughly 18%).
To put this in perspective: the second-largest metropolitan area in the country, Greater Lyon, has only 1.5 million people—less than the population of central Paris alone (2 million), and about 8x smaller than the Paris region.
If you looks at Europes biggest cities, France only has Paris in that list.
Had France followed the same demographic path as its neighbors, there would be 110-130 million people in metropolitan France today.
I'm phoquing glad that's not the case.
I live in one of those little peaks away from Paris, and it's super nice. Places like England, the Netherlands, or Northern Italy feel overpopulated and crowded to me.
I'm french and I fucking wish we were 130 millions
Shows just how dense Paris said. That said, the population density bar for Lyon and Marseille is still significantly higher(and thinner too) compared to the typical American city outside the northeast when doing the same thing with US population density map
San Francisco, Miami, Chicago and DC are all more densely populated than Marseille when comparing city propers.
Post-Revolution France did everything to keep France hyper-centralized around Paris. Crushing any regional identity, any regional culture. Kids in school were literally shamed for speaking their inferior dialect.
Still today, every TGV line has to go either to or from Paris. You want to go from Lyon to Bordeaux ? How about a quick détour to visit the Eiffel Tower?
Every single national TV or national newspapers are in Paris. The German situation with the ZDF located in Mainz is simply unthinkable for a french person.
In mathematical analysis there’s the “SNCF metric” - the SNCF distance between any two points x and y is the regular distance from x to some central point, let’s call it Paris, plus the regular distance from Paris to y. (Unless the line from x to Paris happens to go through y.)
Some people call this the “British Rail metric” and call the central point “London”, but it’s probably closer to French reality.
Isn't that because the countryside is basically empty?
I didn't expect to ever see a map of France without Paris that's definitely a first
Huh?!?
We have an award winner here
There must be an additional map of Paris detailing the distribution for each arrondissement because it is not in the Ile de France part (different shade of white) so yes it's a map of France where we don't have the information for Paris
Got a bit confused by the Ile de France inset, but for anyone also puzzled the white colour in the inset is a different scale to the white colour on the general map.
For French people on this sub I have a question- what kind of cultural traditions, dress and food do you notice in Metropolitan France in areas that have a large minority of people from overseas territories. I have little awareness of Renuinon or Mayotte or French Guinanas culture
I have ancestors who lived in one of the top-rightmost departments. (They were Hanoverans).
One interesting statistic of the period is that the population of France actually increased during the wars.
That adds up (in this case literally).
The U.K. despite having a smaller area, has more people than France. Just the England part of the U.K. is, by population density, fucking packed with Englishmen but France is comparatively much more empty. Germany got fucked by two world wars and lost a bunch of land and has nearly 20 million more people in it. WTF? In history, France:
-Had a big colonial empire to give it money
-Won back to back world wars
-Was very prestigious and respected culturally
-Was the dominant player in Europe for a long time (especially after Spain lost some relevance but before Germany showed up)
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But Hungary has a higher population density? Why?
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what is the population of france?
As of the latest estimates in 2023, the population of France is approximately 65 million people.
Key Considerations:
Growth Trends: France has experienced moderate population growth over the past few decades, primarily due to immigration and a relatively high birth rate compared to other European countries.
Urban vs. Rural: A significant portion of the population lives in urban areas, with Paris being the largest city and a major cultural and economic center.
Demographics: France has a diverse population, with various ethnicities and cultures contributing to its social fabric.
Takeaway: For the most accurate and up-to-date population figures, it's always good to check official sources like INSEE (the National Institute of Statistics and Economic Studies) or other demographic research organizations.
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