We did your exact flight in November :) so. I did a jetlag app to try and adjust sleep schedule in the few days running up, ending in an ideal 9pm bedtime the night before the flight (didn't actually happen for me with travel to Heathrow the night before, but it was better than I'd normally manage. Then mid flight, melatonin and try to sleep as much as possible.

Honestly? It all wasn't too bad for us. Tiredness really started kicking in about 4pm local time, but not so bad we couldn't power through until 9 or 10pm. Both of us found we were up earlier for the first few days, of course, and also felt we just never were rested - probably from overloading the days as well and taking advantage of the earlier starts.

I also think day 1 schedule helped for us - we got right on the shinkansen down to Osaka so got a lot of travel done while feeling a bit frazzled. So we didn't actually get to Osaka until maybe 2pm, we'd had our luggage forwarded from Haneda so just had rucksacks - did a little bit of exploring and a coffee before checking into our apartment around 4pm. It kind of kept us on our feet?

The flight is 14hrs right?

1. Don’t sleep the night before the flight. Sleep during the day if possible but get up at 9pm and stay awake all night, use lots of light, as bright as possible, to trick your brain into staying awake. Shift your meals too, as in, have breakfast at 9pm and lunch at like 2am, have dinner when you get to the airport instead of breakfast even if it’s 7am.

2. As soon as you’re on the plane take some melatonin, wear sunglasses and use Night Shift on your devices. We’re trying to fake sunset for your brain. Read or chill for a bit, don’t do anything exciting.

3. A couple hours into the flight go to sleep. Bring earplugs or noise canceling headphones, an eye mask, you can even put your pajamas on and do your nighttime routine as accurately as possible. It’ll be noon. It’s weird. Just do it. Set an alarm for 8 hours later and go to sleep. Do everything you can to trick your brain into sleep mode.

4. Wake up 8 hours later as you’re approaching Japan. Get dressed, wash your face and your teeth, walk a bit, have breakfast. Look at the sun through your window if you can see it.

That’s basically it, all that’s left to do is NOT fall asleep during the day until a reasonable time. Don’t overdo it on your first day but being outside and walking will help you stay awake.

Your two most powerful tools for time shifting is light exposure and melatonin (not sleep timing necessarily).
For your eastward shift:

1. Seek light in the morning and avoid it at night (you can start with that before your flight and remember your "morning" will be later for your body than the local time in Japan on arrival)

2. If you dont have contraindications, try to take melatonin. Take it one hour before you try to sleep

Avoid sleeping on the flight until it is around 5 pm in London time and then try to sleep until you land with the help of Melatonin.

If you follow this strategy, your symptoms will be a lot less present very likely.

(for context: I am a medical student and as perfect timing for this is pretty complex we are building a tool to visualize the advice a bit better here: jet-shift.com But the advice above will go a long way already)

Good luck, enjoy your time there :)

I had a poor night's sleep before the flight. Stayed in a hotel next to Heathrow and slept maybe 3-4 hours before getting up at 5am to catch the flight. I couldn't sleep on the plane at all. Maybe 2-3 little 20 minute naps.

When I arrived in the morning I felt like I had just done a day and night with no sleep - it helps that most of the second half of the flight is through the night.

I arrived at 7am local time, and just powered through the day. Crashed that night then got up early (8am) the next day to go to Meiji jingu. My sleep schedule was fine after that.

It was my first long flight and I was expecting wayyyy worse.

Strangely, I went to Hong Kong a year later and did pretty much the same thing, and expected similar results, but jetlag absolutely kicked my ass for the entire 12 days that I was there. It was horrendous. I couldn't sleep more than 2-3 hours a night no matter what I did - drinking, sleeping pills, melatonin, deep breathing, whale/rain noises/white noise... (not all at the same time!). The only night I slept a solid 7 hours was my last night.

I have no idea why it was so different!

Not sure about the obsession with trying to adjust time zones before traveling. The human body doesn't work like that. One of the biggest contributors to jet lag is a lack of hydration during the flight. Drink lots, then drink some more, then drink even more. Get up and walk around, stay cool. When you land, get out in the Sun so that your body adjusts to the new time. Drink some more. No caffeine or alcohol.

Honestly any time I’m changing time zones I just sleep on the plane and take my stimulants according to when morning would be in my new time zone. I almost feel like time zone changes are the one area where I excel as a narcoleptic lol

I’m team coming back Sunday evening, sleep, go to work on Monday, unpack sometime during the week. I will decompress during pointless meetings. FWIW, I’m almost 40. 

I spend as much time in my destination as possible.

I went to see that destination and I can sleep and recover the next weekend.

But I'm one to do a lot and see as much as possible. Ive spent to money to go so I want to maximise it

I work to pay for my travelling. I'm not cutting my trips short so that I can be 100% at work. I get paid the same whether I'm half asleep at my desk or fully alert.

(This mindset applies to office work...if you're medical staff or work with heavy machinery, please don't follow this mindset)

I always like to spend as much time at my destination. Sometimes I take a full day or half to acclimatize at home, but there are also trips where I just go straight to work. A full day at the office forces you to stick to your time zone and not take a nap.

Rest time to unwind, some people don't need much, others do. It is the safe bet to do so. I have jumped straight back in before and I was absolutely done for later on the day.

If you go east across the date line, you subtract 24 hours. So if it was the 15th, it would be the 14th after crossing.

Yes. If it’s 10pm on January 5 then as soon as you cross the TZ line it becomes 9pm on January 4 in places where IDL and TZ line coincide. Of course it doesn’t actually matter how they do it since you’re in the middle of the ocean.

Fun fact I read somewhere. On the first round the world voyage they didn’t quite understand time zone type differences or date lines the way we do now. So they kept very accurate logs as far as number of days sailed and then when they returned to Spain they could not figure out why their calendar was a day off. They were scared that they had eaten meat on a Friday and didn’t know it!

I worked over there for 6 months, flying regularly between Tokyo and Seattle. My flight would generally land 12 minutes before it took off - on the same day.

You will be given instructions when any time changes are required. Usually they are left in your cabin the night before. Don’t try to do it on your own, just do what they tell you.

When I did NCL Tokyo-Seward we lost an hour several nights (going forward) and then repeated a day. It was a bit confusing! The first night after we left Japan, we went forward two hours.

There's no real secret to dealing with jet lag or really anything to worry about. The only thing to do is try to line up your sleep schedule with the local time as quickly as possible.

If she lands in Japan early in the morning, just stay up as late as she can on the first day, and she should wake up the next morning relatively well adjusted.

Jetlag going east to west isn't so bad. It's west to east that really fucks you over.

People I know say to go to the fish market when you arrive.

There's not much you can do about it. The flight itself can be quite draining, unless you're one of those lucky people who can comfortably sleep on a plane. It just takes time and rest to recover.

26th june 10AM for JST Then its 3AM Then its 25TH JUNE.

Read the tweet again

how about using / including UTC

Everdark darkdrift knight? Man that sucks, make a shitty boss even worse huh..

It is global time. The different time zones are listed to make it easier for people to understand without the need to go to a website and use a time converter.

June 26th 10am JST is 3am CEST which is also June 25th 6pm PDT.

Mine left Kobe JP on September 2nd and will arrive to Newport News on Sunday, Oct 15th. From looking at other RORO ships they have multiple port stops so it's not an A-to-B voyage.

Typically you can expect arrival about 2 months from when you pay for the truck. Some sellers take longer to get the booking and some routes are longer, but anywhere from 8-10 weeks is normal. Once the truck is loaded to the ship, it should be to the West coast of the USA in 2.5 weeks. Gulf of Mexico ports are usually one month to 6 weeks (depending on whether they go to Kingston and/or Mobile), and East coast ports are up to 8 weeks.

Mine just arrived to port (Jacksonville Fl) yesterday. Between weather delays and Panama Canal delays. I paid July 6th. Truck was loaded July 25th. Est delivery was Sept. 17th. Actually delivery date October 11th.

Granted. Droughts at the canal and monsoon in late July slowed shipping down.

I got my truck at auction on July 13 and it shipped on September 28. According to the tracker it should arrive at the Panama Canal on October 23 and it should arrive in Baltimore on November 10.

Not sure 'average' is applicable in the real world.

ETE from JP port near Osaka to Port Hueneme [Kalif] is 21 days, including two W coast stops [recent news to me]. The BIG wait was to get from my payment to it being scheduled aboard, which was nearly 4 months! I got action, finally, from Cars from Japan after asking them if they preferred to cancel and refund. They're hardy to most responsive, compared to what other say about their source, with simple replies and COMPLETE data needed for the time-critcal Fm 7501 that I [or a broker] needed to file.

I am fully aware of the recent problems with most all W coast ports and that shippers were choosing other ports.

I've been playing SW since 07/2014 in global server, I live on the east coast USA and because of my timezone and the timing of rush I have never been able to compete in arena so I never did anymore then farm arena. This left me woefully unprepared for interserver battle.

49 against europe and 42 against asia, maybe because I wasn't as patient on week2 or actually maybe asia's defenses are good.

But I only got 3 def wins from eu and already 11 from asia, so I already know who's gonna win eu vs asia

12 now

What was your goto to beat the savannah defenses? I struggle against them during rush hour.

As I said on another thread before: Complete opposite for me. Global was full of tian lang, kinki and molly stals while japan had mostly lushen food.

Went 48 wins against EU and 47 against Asia.

I'm not kidding when I say all 5 losses came from Savannah taking 4 turns.

You guys are everywhere .-.

And this is my first time somone has read my comment in front of me ��

animal cross and draw

How can you draw so good?

Quality's not good

Not true. 4,108 Miles from Hawaii to Japan lol