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Why Do Anime Have Filler Episodes?

TL;DR Anime filler episodes are primarily used to prevent the anime from catching up to the source material, such as manga, and to maintain a consistent airing schedule. They can also serve to extend the series' length for commercial reasons.

Preventing Catch-Up with Source Material

One of the main reasons for filler episodes in anime is to avoid catching up with the source material, typically a manga [1:5][2:2][3:1]. When an anime adapts ongoing source material, it risks overtaking the published chapters. To mitigate this, studios may create filler content to give the manga time to progress. This ensures that the anime can continue airing without interruption while new source material becomes available [4:1].

Maintaining Consistent Airing Schedules

Filler episodes also help maintain a consistent weekly airing schedule, which is important for long-running shows [3:1]. Networks and production companies often have contracts requiring a certain number of episodes per season, and fillers help meet these contractual obligations when there isn't enough original content to adapt [2:1].

Commercial and Narrative Considerations

From a commercial standpoint, fillers can be seen as a way to "milk" a popular series by extending its run [4:4]. While some fillers attempt to tell side stories or develop secondary characters, they generally do not advance the main plot [4:2][4:3]. This can lead to pacing issues and lower perceived quality, which are common criticisms among fans [5:1].

Authors' Involvement and Creative Input

The involvement of the original authors in creating filler content varies. Some authors provide input or use filler content to explore ideas that might later influence the manga [1:6]. However, more often than not, the studio decides on the direction and content of filler episodes independently [1:4].

Changing Trends in Anime Production

In recent years, the trend has shifted towards producing anime in seasonal formats, which reduces the need for filler episodes [1:8]. Shows like "My Hero Academia" and "Attack on Titan" are examples where the seasonal approach allows for better pacing and fewer fillers [1:1]. This shift is partly due to changes in how anime is consumed, with streaming platforms allowing for flexible viewing schedules compared to traditional TV broadcasts.

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What's the point of filler's tho

Posted by spaghettbaguett · in r/anime · 5 years ago
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They just seem like wastes of time, and money

you spend money on the episodes, and it in general lowers the value of the anime, so what's the point of them?

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star_crystals · 5 years ago

Some fillers are good to be honest. Naruto's fillers account for around 40%. Bleach seemed to have fillers every other arcs and has 45%. One Piece fillers are kinda impressive since it only accounts to 11% but they kept dragging the episodes.

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Drennkeeg · 5 years ago

This is one of the reasons to watch Gintama

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AbysmalVixen · 5 years ago

Anime come out on a schedule. If the source doesn’t have enough content then they gotta improvise. Anime usually doesn’t get a super long term following so to milk it as fast as they can and they need content

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FireRifle64 · 5 years ago

Do authors of source material provide some input about filler episodes or does the studio solely decide what they want to do?

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Godprime · 5 years ago

Depends, but I know that some authors use the content in the fillers to help the manga stuff sometimes(FMA and Naruto come to mind).

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AbysmalVixen · 5 years ago

Sometimes.

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hotshotyay · 5 years ago

Yes but I'm sure I'm not the only one who loves the fact fillers are dying out nowadays with shows like MHA, AOT, heck even Black Clover hardly has any fillers.

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SmurfRockRune · 5 years ago

We're literally in the middle of a long filler arc in Black Clover.

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AbysmalVixen · 5 years ago

Yeah. Anime has defiantly gotten closer to a place where they don’t need em anymore

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Yri4lf12 · 5 years ago

It's in the name

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Abysswatcherbel · 5 years ago

Filler happens in long running shows that are following a current printing manga, today we have Black Clover, Boruto and One Piece as examples.

Shows that are season based like My Hero Academia and Attack on Titan don't usually have fillers but some filler episodes can be added to tell a side history or to use side characters

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Why do animes have fillers

Posted by -S_P_A_C_E- · in r/NoStupidQuestions · 5 years ago

I honestly have no idea, is it they need to publish a ep but like don’t have enough funding? I have zero idea.

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ArachisDiogoi · 5 years ago

My understanding is that when there's an ongoing manga that the anime is based off of, once they make episodes of all the manga issues, they can either put the show on hiatus until there's more material, or make filler episodes, which usually suck, but can be sold anyway. So they make filler.

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skyderper13 · 5 years ago

they need something to fill the time, but they have may have run out of the original material, so essentially they go a new direction to fill the time

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PhatPotato_Man · 5 years ago

I think they have fillers to make the series longer

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TheTechHobbit · 5 years ago

Lots of American TV shows also have filler. It's generally because they have a contract to do a set amount of episodes per season, and the story doesn't take that many. The filler is to make up for the extra episodes that need to be produced.

Usually cable shows or in the case of anime, shows based on manga, won't have filler because their contract is just to tell the story they have.

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Why is their filler in anime?

Posted by nafissyed · in r/anime · 5 years ago

What is the purpose of filler in anime? I have always seen filler in long running anime such as Naruto and One Piece but never fully understood why these sort of anime had filler episodes when they already have tons of content to adapt with. One piece is a very clear example of this imo.

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Abyssbringer · 5 years ago

Gintama explains filler

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AmpFile · 5 years ago

so the manga can catch up most of the time.

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Devilloc · 5 years ago

*there

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Qwterty14 · 5 years ago

Why are you asking a question you can easily google?

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BananaRepublic_BR · 5 years ago

I think the simple answer is that if you want to produce a weekly show and don't want to catch up with the latest chapter of the manga then you're only viable solution is to include filler episodes and slow down the pacing of the show. I haven't watched Naruto, but that's the bargain that was made with One Piece. Although, the pacing slowdown is a bigger issue than filler episodes in the case of One Piece.

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What the hell is a filler episode?

Posted by stephenwert · in r/anime · 3 years ago

So I’ve been watching anime for almost 5 years and still don’t know what constitutes a “filler episode.” I’ve heard so many people talk about em, but never explain how it is filler. Would love y’all’s opinion on it

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banditta82 · 3 years ago

Basically if the anime catches up to a manga or other source they have three options: go into a hiatus, chart their own course for the series or create filler. Filler is basically a way to put out content to buy time for more source material to come out. It generally does not move the plot forward as they do not want to screw things up with future plot lines from the source. At times it will be straight up recap episodes and others they can be good, but mostly they are bland and flavorless like bread crumbs in crab cakes.

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SA090 · 3 years ago

Added content in episodes or entire episodes that aren’t in the source material.

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They also mainly add nothing of worth to the narrative. Like Naruto and friends taking a mission in the middle of the final arc just to make the series longer sort of thing.

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crixx93 · 3 years ago

Typically is an episode that is used to pad the series for whatever reason like running out of material to adapt or just trying to milk the series for as long as possible. Some people also call filler episodes to anything that is non canon

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Gmaster132 · 3 years ago

From what I understand, there are 2 kinds of filler.

Canonical filler which is a storyline that comes from the original source but doesn't add anything substantial to the main story.

Non-canonical filler is extra content added to an adaptation of the original source( usually anime adaptations) for the only purpose to extend its length.

Basically any episode or chapter with a story that don't add anything new to the table or that doesn't develop it's characters by the end of the episode(s)

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Epilex__ · 3 years ago

When a long-running weekly show adapting an ongoing source material catches up to said source material the anime has 3 options: put the show on hold, go original, and to start releasing "filler" episodes. The purpose of these episodes are to fill in the otherwise empty gap until enough new content has been written by the author to keep adapting the source material again.

Since no one has linked the Gintama clip yet I guess I'll do it. https://youtu.be/a4S9NuI6NKo

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Do you Hate Anime Fillers,Do you Skip Anime Fillers Yes or No and Why?

Posted by Amber_Flowers_133 · in r/animequestions · 5 months ago

Yes Because Anime filler often gets a bad reputation for several reasons, but opinions on it can vary widely among fans. Here are some common reasons why many viewers are against filler content:

  1. Pacing Issues: Filler episodes can disrupt the pacing of the story. Fans may feel that fillers slow down the narrative momentum, especially if they are eager to see the main plot unfold.

  2. Quality Concerns: Filler episodes are sometimes perceived as lower in quality compared to episodes that adapt the original source material (like manga or light novels). This can be due to less investment in writing, animation, and character development.

  3. Character Consistency: Fillers may introduce scenarios that do not align with character development or established lore, leading to inconsistencies that frustrate viewers who are invested in the characters.

  4. Viewer Expectations: Many fans watch anime to follow a specific storyline. When fillers deviate from the main plot, it can create a feeling of disappointment or confusion, especially if the fillers are not well-integrated.

  5. Time Investment: Anime series can have many episodes, and fillers add to the total runtime. Some viewers prefer series that get to the point more quickly, especially if they are watching multiple shows.

  6. Binge-Watching Culture: With the rise of streaming services, many viewers binge-watch series. Fillers can feel like unnecessary padding when consuming a show this way, making the experience feel less cohesive.

While fillers can provide some fun side stories or character exploration, their reception largely depends on their execution and how they fit within the larger narrative. Some fans appreciate fillers for character development and world-building, while others prefer a tighter focus on the main story. Ultimately, the presence of filler can lead to mixed feelings among viewers, and opinions will vary based on individual preferences.

Imagine you’re really getting into the story, and at one point there’s a climax where your favorite character is about to die, or fight a character you’re excited about

And then out of no where - the next 3 episodes are full of “filler”.

Wouldn’t that bother you, after having all that excitement built up only for the filler to sweep it under the rug for 3 or so episodes?

That’s why some people hate filler.

Filler is done incorrectly by some creators. Timing is everything.

But on the other hand: filler is OK as long as it doesn’t disrupt, ruin the moment, or tear down the quality of a show. Or even better is when filler somehow fits into the anime story, even if a little.

  1. Since most of them are written by the producers of the anime, they’re lower quality than most of the canon arcs, with notable exceptions. They’re basically professionally produced fan fiction.
  2. They’re non-canon, so what happens in those episodes has no impact on the main storyline. They introduce characters who are never seen again and involve events that aren’t mentioned outside of the episode.
  3. Looking at it cynically, they have no purpose but to allow the manga to get farther ahead of the anime. The fact that seasonal anime generally don’t have filler episodes goes to show how unnecessary they are.

The thing about fillers is that its not actually a part of the canon story - but rather made to ensure they keep the time slot (tv channel) while the manga is being written/drawn+ (or even to earn more money by making the series longer or other). Sometimes it can be interesting.. and at other times it can ruin the actual series (at least in part).

Take Bleach for example - I did enjoy the show.. but well - over time the repeated plots (even entire seasons where basically the same thing happens over and over and over again) and useless episodes got the better of me to be honest and I lost interest.

Bleach was an anime series that ran from 2004 to 2012.

In total 366 episodes of Bleach were aired.

With a total of 166 reported filler episodes, Bleach has a high filler percentage of 45%.’ Essentially almost half of the episodes are fillers!

They are often put between arcs, or in the middle of an arc, and story progression is halted, which can be a big turnoff, especially if the next part of the anime has been hyped or you're looking forward to it.Also, they usually bring in characters people don't know and/or don't care about, so people don't really want to watch these episodes with these characters.

filler episodes do make the show less enjoyable. If you already know that what you’re watching is filler, it can feel like a distraction or a waste of time, and there’s often a noticeable dip in quality in the writing, both in regards to the stories and the characters. Part of the reason why Dragon Ball’s Chi-Chi has such a bad reputation in the fandom is because of all the filler episodes that fanderize her into a constantly irrational and irritable nag, when she’s actually fairly sweet and patient in the manga.

Those don’t really let the plots of anime progress much, and ar emostly there for momey grabs.

Some anime with huge amount of fillers are Naruto,Bleach,Detective Conan,etc

The thing is; nobody really watches fillers and skips them, because they’re not part of the storyline and they can be meaningless most of the time.

Because many people skip filler episodes, it’s a waste of money for the studio that produced the anime. If you think about it - one anime episode is at least $100,000 - filler or canon.

The other issue is most people don’t know if an anime episode is filler unless it’s marked as filler, and they question things like “how is this related to the story?” Some TV channels streams anime with filler episodes (if the anime have fillers), which can be annoying.

aren't canon by the storyline progression. A lot of times characters are introduced that are never seen again, the main characters get powers that are never used again, and in general it confuses people who haven't read the manga and know that it's filler.

  1. the scriptwriters usually aren’t as good at story-telling as the original author
  2. they may accidentally take the character or story in the wrong direction and so make it harder for them to reconcile the anime with the original material later on.

The thing is, fillers are something that doesn’t deliver into contributing the main plot and gives much to be desired, it most of the time isn’t something that will turn into something bigger and after finishing it, most of the short adventures of a filler will probably be long forgotten if it’s a long series and the long fillers most likely would remembered but it somewhat feels like ‘wasted time’ as a series goes “look, we couldn’t think of anything for the moment so here’s an extensively long adventure” then after gaining more source material, idea on what to do next or just to ‘fill in the anime’ they go “Alright, playtime’s over, now where were we?” it somewhat feels, useless and unnecessary. Also, fillers usually doesn’t really deliver the same enjoyment or satisfaction as the main plot does and although it’s the same cast and universe, it doesn’t feel the same.

filler episodes in anime are often a concern because they deviate from the original story, leaving fans eager for plot progression disappointed.

There’s an intense and insanely interesting battle going on, the episode ended with two attacks colliding, you’re itching to find out who comes out on top, and then boom, filler

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Cuzzos04 · 5 months ago

Nah, most filler is in the long shouen of older anime, like early Naruto or bleach.

When I watch those, I was pretty new to anime, so didn’t even know filler was a thing. I never skipped them

I did find it strange that I was watching bleach one time, and a random ass arc happen next episode, when I saw that I thought I was on the wrong episode lol

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DemonXi98 · 5 months ago

What you mention about money is not really true since majority of people watch on pirate sites anyway. I don't mind fillers. they can be good but some are really bad. Heres my worst filler picks including some filler arcs and my best. Like top 10 but no particular order my 10 worst and best are.

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Nr 10 bleach bount arc(this arc is just one of the worst filler arcs in any anime it is so boring)

Nr 9 Boruto Funato arc. I don't think many fans liked this arc. it had some good moments and started well but even the animation was some of the worst i seen. Felt super low effort.

Nr 7 Fairy tail Eclipse Celestial spirits. was quite a boring filler arc. don't think the writing was good and it dragged on for to long.

Nr 6 Naruto Allied mom force arc. do i even need to say anything. what even was this arc.

Nr 5 Naruto Ostrich Ninja. Yea just annoying in every way. Skip it pls

Nr 4 One piece Davy back. i don't think its filler but it's so bad and annoying.

Nr 3 Dragonball Garlic Jr. Feel no attachment to the characters. its not good

Nr 2 Rurouni Kenshin Feng Shui Arc. this show fell off so hard i didn't even finish it but this arc is so bad.

Nr 1 Fairy tail the true villain once again (butt gang) Not my cup of tea lets just say that.

There are many more Bad once.

Best

Nr 10 bleach zanpakuto arc. a good arc that is kind of strange but you get to get closer to the zanpakuto. its a bit long imo but i still rate it high.

Nr 9 blackclover devil banisher arc. i like all fillers in blackclover and this arc is pretty good and different.

Nr 8 Dragon Ball Gokus Ordeal. Just a fun episode.

Nr 7 One piece G8 arc. Just a funny arc that is better than the arc that is also way better than the arc that comes after it imo.

Nr 6 Boruto time slip arc Not much to say this arc is just funny and like a take back to og naruto which i love.

Nr 5 MHa Internship. its quite fun to see everyones internships. its not amazing by any means but its an okey filler

Nr 6 avatar last airbender fillers. Just good in general. they don't do anything crazy but they make sense for the story direction.

Nr 7 Naurto Learns how to make ramen. This is just a good filler. i would not skip it.

Nr 8 Kakashi Face reveal. a good filler episode not amazing but i wouldnt skip it.

Nr 9 Hunter x Hunter Zoldyck Family. Pretty good arc.

Nr 10 Naruto Itachi Shiden Book Light And Darkness Arc. Just a good Arc that follows itachi which is a pretty awesome character. Way better than Sasuke.

Theres many more good once like Zoldyck family hunter x hunter.

Fillers can be really good if done right but also can be terrible. i don't mind when filler take a turn from the main story aslong as its entertaining and make some sense.

I don't usually skip anime fillers. if i feel they are really bad or have a bad rep i usually just skim through them fast.

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awesomenessofme1 · 5 months ago

Filler is basically not a thing at all anymore and I don't really watch old anime. The older stuff I have seen are shorter self-contained series (Death Note, FMAB, Cowboy Bebop, etc), not long-running weekly series. So it's just not really a topic I've ever had to have an opinion on.

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Are TV productions and viewers losing appreciation for Filler?

Posted by matt0055 · in r/CharacterRant · 7 days ago

Inspired by this hooking tweet thread and blog post: https://www.tumblr.com/matt0044/797189257003515904?source=share

I feel like episodic narratives with breather episodes often create a sense of normality to return to. Heroes might get power ups or upgrades but often spread across individual stories to give time to their daily lives.

I often bring up Sailor Moon S as an example in two ways: the Inners and Outers revealing each other’s identities as well as Sailor Saturn’s reveal.

The former was packaged into a Minako focused episode that seemed goofy up until the final act where Usagi has to transform in front of Haruka and Michiru as well as vice versa. This feel impactful because we were use to the dramatic irony of them being friends as civilians but uncertain allies in battle. Suddenly everything changes.

The latter pays off on Hotaru’s innate powers that manifest during her worse seizures against Daimons. We’re constantly wondering what her story is until the symbol for Saturn appears and reveals that she’d not only Dr. Tomoe’s daughter but a Sailor Senshi. The Outer Senshi going all out on her speaks volumes alone.

It’s that sense of security balanced with a sense of uncertainty that too few viewers these days tend to underrate. I doubt either of these moments would have the same pop if they streamlined things. Hell, Sailor Moon Crystal garnered criticism on that front. Though I feel that having each arc be twenty-six episodes would’ve help things.

But broadening out, I feel like there’s a very clean divide between those I’ve seen on Tumblr who express their mourning for filler episodes being a dying breed and those on Twitter who often bemoan filler episodes as a show is released weekly on television.

Especially when I’ve been viewing certain Disney TV Animation projects from Amphibia to The Owl House since Gravity Falls got me on the wagon. The derogatory term of Filler was often out of yearning for another lore drop, another big character moment and what have you.

There was vocal expression of impatience of those who just couldn’t enjoy an episode in isolation. Even when that episode would later turn out to have stealthily set up aspects of a future episode or finale.

Remember when Old Man McGucket was just a wacky prospector.

Remember when The Plantar’s bunker in Season 1 was just there?

Yet on Tumblr, there are many active post advocating for more filler episodes and 20 episode long seasons. There’s recognition of how we missed the forest for the trees. And I’ve always wanted to study this.

I feel like this harkens to the age old cliche: “You never know what you had until it’s gone.” We all those those time wasting fillers for granted and got our wish for our shows to “stop dancing around this arc already.”

Personally speaking, I don’t fully agree that these “8 hour movies” lack slower moments or character development. The best ones, the ones Netflix canned only for petitions to pop up, tend to do well to merge plot with characters like a movie or novel would.

But it does feel like we lost something...

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Lady_Gray_169 · 7 days ago

I think that filler as it's used today is fundamentally incorrect. Filler was used to refer to extra episodes of an anime that literally existed only so they could keep airing the show while not running the risk of catching up to the manga. Outside of that, episodes not tied to the direct plot ARE NOT FILLER. They exist for a purpose and often had the same level of care put into them as episodes that did directly advance the plot. The purpose of those episodes was what you described; creating a baseline, a sense of normality, a status quo. Serialized fiction is great, but it's not the end all, be all. Not every concept is meant for serialization.

There's a class of show where the biggest draw was the cast of characters, spending time with them, seeing them having adventures. And for tht kind of show, you can lose something in serialization. You lose the appeal of seeing the characters in a long, stead situation, getting to feel like you really know them and can just explore their relationships. Those so-called "filler" episodes used to be episodes where you could focus on one particular character, or pair off a particular set of characters that don't usually spend a lot of time together and see their interactions. Or you could introduce some fun one-off gimmick to try, like a musical episode. But above all, they exist because that feeling of having a settled status quo makes the plot advancements hit harder because you can have a much deeper sense of who everyone is and how they react to everything. As well as providing an opportunity to decompress and absorb the impact of those plot moments after the fact.

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Gespens · 7 days ago

>Filler was used to refer to extra episodes of an anime that literally existed only so they could keep airing the show while not running the risk of catching up to the manga.

Filler has been a thing for way longer than before anime fans got a hold of it. It only ever meant that, in the specific case of long-running Shonen manga. Most of the time when you step away, it's called "anime original content" because people understand its for broadcast reasons.

Filler has traditionally meant content thst only exists to pad runtime. Even print media has it.

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Weirdguy1257 · 6 days ago

Real, by today’s standards, 90% of cowboy bepbop would be filler

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warforcewarrior · 7 days ago

Based on the Internet yes, people don’t care or even like filler. I was like that as well until I rewatch some shows and realize it is due to the really bad fillers or ungodly stretches of filler.

Filler episodes could be one of the best episodes in a series but it needs to be executed well so that the audience still is entertain despite having nothing to do with the overarching plot. Otherwise, you more slogging through a terrible episode that have nothing important of value and feeling they wasted their time.

And of course, we also have to take in consideration that some audience members are impatient, not knowing the value of filler, or mis categories things as filler.

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Eine_Kartoffel · 7 days ago

This kinda implies that it's okay for an episode to be bad as long as something important for the plot is happening in it...

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warforcewarrior · 7 days ago

I assuming you are referring to, "Otherwise, you more slogging through a terrible episode that have nothing important of value and feeling they wasted their time." which if you are then yeah kind of.

I don't actually agree with the statement but I see many who don't want to slog through a terrible episode where nothing relevant happened but at least somewhat fine with a terrible episode continuing the plot of the show. I can't blame them as it is going to be a waste of their time as it isn't entertaining(most important thing a show should do imo) and/or it doesn't provide anything important. At least terrible plot relevant episodes have something of value. Terrible filler really doesn't.

Don't get me wrong, I will still criticize plot episode I fine terrible. I just understand where many who hate filler coming from as I once was in their shoes.

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BaronArgelicious · 7 days ago

One of the most iconic scenes in yugioh (berserker soul) came from filler.

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Gespens · 7 days ago

Most of the yugioh anime is 'filler'

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kingfosa13 · 7 days ago

when you wait 2-4 years for 8 episodes you do not want one of the 8 episodes to be of zero consequence and just random shit.

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Pepsiman1031 · 6 days ago

Yeah, I think filler is mainly a thing of the past.

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Lady_Gray_169 · 6 days ago

That's true. When a series is that short, you want it to be lean and tight. Which is why I dont like that short seasons like that have become so common.

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BaronArgelicious · 7 days ago

I hate how filler has mutated from what the original anime meaning was.

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Why don’t they make more filler arcs/episodes instead of slowing down the pace of the anime per episode ?

Posted by Speedwag0nbestw4ifu · in r/OnePiece · 6 months ago
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I get that they try to keep the pace slow as to not catch up to the manga, but wouldn’t filler episodes or arc work ? Sure it may be considered pointless by some but with how amazing the fan letter ep was toei proved they could produce side episodes that can be sometimes more entertaining than slowing the anime progression of the story.

For example just an episode following entirely the population of an arc ( ex : water seven or dressrosa ) living their everyday life could be pretty enjoyable imo

They could animate some of the cover stories as well since they are made by oda they shouldn’t contradict anything he does after that.

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Buzzek · 6 months ago

A short filler arc is likely not worth it in the long run. Wano went for three years, and if we're taking into account three acts of Wano, that's up to 10 filler episodes for three years.

The risk of doing that and angering the fans is not big, but the gain is even smaller.

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Murasasme · 6 months ago

I think the story is also at a point where a filler would be a bit strange if not dissonant. 20 years of story, set-up, and foreshadowing are starting to come together, so unless the filler was an Oda original that fits with the main story, it would just be weird and disconnected.

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lantis0527 · 6 months ago

Because you can hardly make sensible side episodes without touching canon materials. Of course Oda can't be bothered to have more on his plate and too much fillers without canon reference will deteriorate the interest of audiences.

They obviously learned from naruto and it is better that way.

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Ikariiprince · 6 months ago

It’s not better that way when the actual canon material is suffering when they stretch it out. One Piece should be seasonal but if they wont do it then it should have filler 

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Pizzamess · 6 months ago

I think most people would agree that just taking the breaks would be significantly better, and I'd honestly just prefer they continue the chapter per episode pacing rather than resort to filler after every arc.

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PCN24454 · 6 months ago

I disagree. I liked those filler episodes and how they expanded the characters and world.

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lantis0527 · 6 months ago

Well it is a good thing that you guys are the minority.

I would rather wait with long breaks and get quality episodes than watch non canon fillers Oda didn't even come up with. The lore of one piece is already rich with tons of characters and stories there is no need to saturate it with non canon shits just to satisfy the minority.

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SenpaiSwanky · 6 months ago

As someone who started watching One Piece AFTER Wano ended in the anime, I can’t imagine waiting for weekly releases and having an entire arc be filler.

I legit just would wait until the canon episodes start coming out again.

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whatadumbperson · 6 months ago

> I legit just would wait until the canon episodes start coming out again.

Which is what everyone did for anime with filler. I would go like a year between episodes of Naruto in order to avoid filler

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Speedwag0nbestw4ifu · OP · 6 months ago

Some fillers are really good tho, definitely not all of them but some are great

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Pizzamess · 6 months ago

I would love if they started animating the cover story between arcs or something, but that's different then straight up filler since it is canon. That said Toei would have to fill in a lot space since cover stories are so sparce and rarely even have dialogue, so it risks characters doing things that Oda would never have them do

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Dookie12345679 · 6 months ago

Because people hate filler, and most of the cover stories are pretty old, so they might get confusing to the audience

What they should've done is extend the offscreen fights, it's the most logical choice and people would've enjoyed it. That's what I thought they were going to do with Garp vs Kuzan and Law vs Blackbeard, but they fumbled hard

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r/anime • [8]

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Why I watch anime Fillers

Posted by Spartaballa · in r/anime · 2 years ago

I remember as a kid, around 4 or 5, from the Caribbean i had to save my money up and buy anime from roadside vendors. I would have to make sure the order was correct because each cd would have about 5-7 episode but sometimes the vendor wouldn’t have certain episode so I had to skip those. Back then I had no idea what a filler episode was, all I can remember is being extremely confused but so immersed that I came to the conclusion that they were apart of the storyline but probably flashbacks. But these fillers gave me the chance to understand some of the lesser known characters more. For example, Hinata in the OG Naruto (the fillers made it so obvious she was gonna be the one for Naruto) or Bleach’s zanpakuto filler: made me understand the dynamic between Ichigo, zangetsu and white alot more. All that said (probably too much lol) fillers aren’t all automatically bad, though I admit a lot of them may seem that way. But, some may give you a chance to explore the verse and the characters of the shows more in my opinion. Thanks for reading all this if you did.

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Clean-Shop-7448 · 2 years ago

ffs watch another anything other than long running batttle shonen, nd pleasestop acting like those mediocre shows are all that exist

filler is mostly non existant outside of them, so just watch any other kind of show and dont deal wit hthis waste of time

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ohboop · 2 years ago

What are you even mad about? OP isn't acting like no other shows exist. Honestly this is a pretty mild take appreciating fillers, which I enjoyed more than some generic filler hate posts that are more common.

It's not a waste of time if you're enjoying yourself. I've been considering watching filler myself when I turn on my next ungodly long shounen...

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Spartaballa · OP · 2 years ago

I specifically said SOMETIMES… and I used two shows even the average anime watcher would know… I watch plenty of others and I’ve seen plenty fillers that I don’t like hence why i said SOMETIMES and gave two examples of times I thought they were done right……

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Clean-Shop-7448 · 2 years ago

try watching something else for the love of god

mos t shows don't even reach 30 episodes they dont waste time on fillers anymore, it has never been a thing outside of those very few long unning shows

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Silcaria · 2 years ago

It's common (or at least it used to be) in mahou shoujo aswell.

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Clean-Shop-7448 · 2 years ago

just children show that go for year to sell toys like pokemon digimon yugioh etc

outisde of that it isn't a thing but people who only watch those mediocre shows act like every anime is like that when 90% of them spcially nowadays are outside of thos

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Alarmed-Accident-716 · 2 years ago

Bruh, one piece is the greatest story in manga/anime period. The forshadowing/world building is peak anime. Bet your fav anime is death note or code geass lmao. Just because it’s shonen does not mean it’s bad, that is so childishly limiting.

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Sharebear42019 · 2 years ago

I find them more enjoyable than all the isekai, rom com and moe shows that seem to be popular

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Kiftiyur · 2 years ago

I wouldn’t say all filler is bad, but the reason I don’t watch filler is because they aren’t canon obviously. Which makes me feel like I’m wasting my time.

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Mukbeth · 2 years ago

>Why I watch anime Fillers

Because you probably have or had time for it.

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Mika-Sea · 2 years ago

>Why I watch filler

Cause I enjoy it

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kenshincvs2 · 2 years ago

My problem with filler takes many forms. If the creator wanted that kinda stuff in they would have put it in themselves. None of the central, important characters evolve unless they are the filler characters. Often times shows just reuse plot points and reset characters personalities. Naruto retells the same first arc several times in filler and Bleach filler made me hate Rukia till I rewatched it without the filler. I also hate how long filler arcs used to be, for Naruto in particular. Give me 2 years of filler with about 3 good episodes the whole time, and I will not give you the benefit of the doubt for the next one.

There are occasions where filler is alright like Fairy Tail. Some of my favorite episodes are one shot zany stories that have nothing to do with anything, have no conclusion and are resolved offscreen with no one ever mentioning them again. But since what happens in those is often embarrassing, it sorta makes sense. It is part of the joke. And it was only one episode here and there and not full arcs of the stuff.

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r/AnimeAlley • [9]

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Do you Hate Anime Fillers,Do you Skip Anime Fillers Yes or No and Why?

Posted by Amber_Flowers_133 · in r/AnimeAlley · 4 months ago

Yes Because Anime filler often gets a bad reputation for several reasons, but opinions on it can vary widely among fans. Here are some common reasons why many viewers are against filler content:

  1. Pacing Issues: Filler episodes can disrupt the pacing of the story. Fans may feel that fillers slow down the narrative momentum, especially if they are eager to see the main plot unfold.

  2. Quality Concerns: Filler episodes are sometimes perceived as lower in quality compared to episodes that adapt the original source material (like manga or light novels). This can be due to less investment in writing, animation, and character development.

  3. Character Consistency: Fillers may introduce scenarios that do not align with character development or established lore, leading to inconsistencies that frustrate viewers who are invested in the characters.

  4. Viewer Expectations: Many fans watch anime to follow a specific storyline. When fillers deviate from the main plot, it can create a feeling of disappointment or confusion, especially if the fillers are not well-integrated.

  5. Time Investment: Anime series can have many episodes, and fillers add to the total runtime. Some viewers prefer series that get to the point more quickly, especially if they are watching multiple shows.

  6. Binge-Watching Culture: With the rise of streaming services, many viewers binge-watch series. Fillers can feel like unnecessary padding when consuming a show this way, making the experience feel less cohesive. While fillers can provide some fun side stories or character exploration, their reception largely depends on their execution and how they fit within the larger narrative. Some fans appreciate fillers for character development and world-building, while others prefer a tighter focus on the main story. Ultimately, the presence of filler can lead to mixed feelings among viewers, and opinions will vary based on individual preferences.

Imagine you’re really getting into the story, and at one point there’s a climax where your favorite character is about to die, or fight a character you’re excited about

And then out of no where - the next 3 episodes are full of “filler”.

Wouldn’t that bother you, after having all that excitement built up only for the filler to sweep it under the rug for 3 or so episodes?

That’s why some people hate filler.

Filler is done incorrectly by some creators. Timing is everything.

But on the other hand: filler is OK as long as it doesn’t disrupt, ruin the moment, or tear down the quality of a show. Or even better is when filler somehow fits into the anime story, even if a little.

  1. Since most of them are written by the producers of the anime, they’re lower quality than most of the canon arcs, with notable exceptions. They’re basically professionally produced fan fiction.
  2. They’re non-canon, so what happens in those episodes has no impact on the main storyline. They introduce characters who are never seen again and involve events that aren’t mentioned outside of the episode.
  3. Looking at it cynically, they have no purpose but to allow the manga to get farther ahead of the anime. The fact that seasonal anime generally don’t have filler episodes goes to show how unnecessary they are.

The thing about fillers is that its not actually a part of the canon story - but rather made to ensure they keep the time slot (tv channel) while the manga is being written/drawn+ (or even to earn more money by making the series longer or other). Sometimes it can be interesting.. and at other times it can ruin the actual series (at least in part).

Take Bleach for example - I did enjoy the show.. but well - over time the repeated plots (even entire seasons where basically the same thing happens over and over and over again) and useless episodes got the better of me to be honest and I lost interest.

Bleach was an anime series that ran from 2004 to 2012.

In total 366 episodes of Bleach were aired.

With a total of 166 reported filler episodes, Bleach has a high filler percentage of 45%.’ Essentially almost half of the episodes are fillers!

They are often put between arcs, or in the middle of an arc, and story progression is halted, which can be a big turnoff, especially if the next part of the anime has been hyped or you're looking forward to it.Also, they usually bring in characters people don't know and/or don't care about, so people don't really want to watch these episodes with these characters.

filler episodes do make the show less enjoyable. If you already know that what you’re watching is filler, it can feel like a distraction or a waste of time, and there’s often a noticeable dip in quality in the writing, both in regards to the stories and the characters. Part of the reason why Dragon Ball’s Chi-Chi has such a bad reputation in the fandom is because of all the filler episodes that fanderize her into a constantly irrational and irritable nag, when she’s actually fairly sweet and patient in the manga.

Those don’t really let the plots of anime progress much, and ar emostly there for momey grabs.

Some anime with huge amount of fillers are Naruto,Bleach,Detective Conan,etc

The thing is; nobody really watches fillers and skips them, because they’re not part of the storyline and they can be meaningless most of the time.

Because many people skip filler episodes, it’s a waste of money for the studio that produced the anime. If you think about it - one anime episode is at least $100,000 - filler or canon.

The other issue is most people don’t know if an anime episode is filler unless it’s marked as filler, and they question things like “how is this related to the story?” Some TV channels streams anime with filler episodes (if the anime have fillers), which can be annoying.

aren't canon by the storyline progression. A lot of times characters are introduced that are never seen again, the main characters get powers that are never used again, and in general it confuses people who haven't read the manga and know that it's filler.

  1. the scriptwriters usually aren’t as good at story-telling as the original author
  2. they may accidentally take the character or story in the wrong direction and so make it harder for them to reconcile the anime with the original material later on.

The thing is, fillers are something that doesn’t deliver into contributing the main plot and gives much to be desired, it most of the time isn’t something that will turn into something bigger and after finishing it, most of the short adventures of a filler will probably be long forgotten if it’s a long series and the long fillers most likely would remembered but it somewhat feels like ‘wasted time’ as a series goes “look, we couldn’t think of anything for the moment so here’s an extensively long adventure” then after gaining more source material, idea on what to do next or just to ‘fill in the anime’ they go “Alright, playtime’s over, now where were we?” it somewhat feels, useless and unnecessary. Also, fillers usually doesn’t really deliver the same enjoyment or satisfaction as the main plot does and although it’s the same cast and universe, it doesn’t feel the same.

filler episodes in anime are often a concern because they deviate from the original story, leaving fans eager for plot progression disappointed.

There’s an intense and insanely interesting battle going on, the episode ended with two attacks colliding, you’re itching to find out who comes out on top, and then boom, filler

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Scribblord · 4 months ago

If it’s 1 or 2 episodes in a row I might look into them but I usually skip them

Never seen a filler arc that was fun enough to justify watching it

Tho I’d rather watch full filler arcs than the abysmal one piece system where almost every single episode is filled with dead scenes and quadrupple repeats or the all time classic flashback to thing that happened in the same episode

Could cut the show by 500 episodes worth of screen time without removing a single scene or dialogue I’m pretty sure

Wano alone prolly had over an hour worth of still shots of the elephant

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JessickaRose · 4 months ago

Always watch.

Might not be filler, might be a bit of foreshadowing that matters later.

Also an opportunity to develop character, and that’s important to me.

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LvLUpYaN · 4 months ago

I skip every and all filler, just like I skipped reading this long ass post. Ain't nobody got time for that, and I won't remember it anyways since it was never important and doesn't connect to anything

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SugarDaddy_Sensei · 4 months ago

I was gonna say the same thing. Anyone who takes the time to read that whole post likely isn't the type to skip fillers.

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Alternative-Energy88 · 4 months ago

My son convinced me to watch Naruto only bc he said it is great if you skip the fillers. So I may actually watch One Piece if the filler wasn't so mixed in with the important parts.

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scandalousbedsheets · 4 months ago

99.99% of the time a filler is the girls in the show wearing skimpy bathing suits. Always a good skip

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r/otaku • [10]

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Do you Hate Anime Fillers,Do you Skip Anime Fillers Yes or No and Why?

Posted by Amber_Flowers_133 · in r/otaku · 5 months ago

Yes Because Anime filler often gets a bad reputation for several reasons, but opinions on it can vary widely among fans. Here are some common reasons why many viewers are against filler content:

  1. Pacing Issues: Filler episodes can disrupt the pacing of the story. Fans may feel that fillers slow down the narrative momentum, especially if they are eager to see the main plot unfold.

  2. Quality Concerns: Filler episodes are sometimes perceived as lower in quality compared to episodes that adapt the original source material (like manga or light novels). This can be due to less investment in writing, animation, and character development.

  3. Character Consistency: Fillers may introduce scenarios that do not align with character development or established lore, leading to inconsistencies that frustrate viewers who are invested in the characters.

  4. Viewer Expectations: Many fans watch anime to follow a specific storyline. When fillers deviate from the main plot, it can create a feeling of disappointment or confusion, especially if the fillers are not well-integrated.

  5. Time Investment: Anime series can have many episodes, and fillers add to the total runtime. Some viewers prefer series that get to the point more quickly, especially if they are watching multiple shows.

  6. Binge-Watching Culture: With the rise of streaming services, many viewers binge-watch series. Fillers can feel like unnecessary padding when consuming a show this way, making the experience feel less cohesive. While fillers can provide some fun side stories or character exploration, their reception largely depends on their execution and how they fit within the larger narrative. Some fans appreciate fillers for character development and world-building, while others prefer a tighter focus on the main story. Ultimately, the presence of filler can lead to mixed feelings among viewers, and opinions will vary based on individual preferences.

Imagine you’re really getting into the story, and at one point there’s a climax where your favorite character is about to die, or fight a character you’re excited about

And then out of no where - the next 3 episodes are full of “filler”.

Wouldn’t that bother you, after having all that excitement built up only for the filler to sweep it under the rug for 3 or so episodes?

That’s why some people hate filler.

Filler is done incorrectly by some creators. Timing is everything.

But on the other hand: filler is OK as long as it doesn’t disrupt, ruin the moment, or tear down the quality of a show. Or even better is when filler somehow fits into the anime story, even if a little.

  1. Since most of them are written by the producers of the anime, they’re lower quality than most of the canon arcs, with notable exceptions. They’re basically professionally produced fan fiction.
  2. They’re non-canon, so what happens in those episodes has no impact on the main storyline. They introduce characters who are never seen again and involve events that aren’t mentioned outside of the episode.
  3. Looking at it cynically, they have no purpose but to allow the manga to get farther ahead of the anime. The fact that seasonal anime generally don’t have filler episodes goes to show how unnecessary they are.

The thing about fillers is that its not actually a part of the canon story - but rather made to ensure they keep the time slot (tv channel) while the manga is being written/drawn+ (or even to earn more money by making the series longer or other). Sometimes it can be interesting.. and at other times it can ruin the actual series (at least in part).

Take Bleach for example - I did enjoy the show.. but well - over time the repeated plots (even entire seasons where basically the same thing happens over and over and over again) and useless episodes got the better of me to be honest and I lost interest.

Bleach was an anime series that ran from 2004 to 2012.

In total 366 episodes of Bleach were aired.

With a total of 166 reported filler episodes, Bleach has a high filler percentage of 45%.’ Essentially almost half of the episodes are fillers!

They are often put between arcs, or in the middle of an arc, and story progression is halted, which can be a big turnoff, especially if the next part of the anime has been hyped or you're looking forward to it.Also, they usually bring in characters people don't know and/or don't care about, so people don't really want to watch these episodes with these characters.

filler episodes do make the show less enjoyable. If you already know that what you’re watching is filler, it can feel like a distraction or a waste of time, and there’s often a noticeable dip in quality in the writing, both in regards to the stories and the characters. Part of the reason why Dragon Ball’s Chi-Chi has such a bad reputation in the fandom is because of all the filler episodes that fanderize her into a constantly irrational and irritable nag, when she’s actually fairly sweet and patient in the manga.

Those don’t really let the plots of anime progress much, and ar emostly there for momey grabs.

Some anime with huge amount of fillers are Naruto,Bleach,Detective Conan,etc

The thing is; nobody really watches fillers and skips them, because they’re not part of the storyline and they can be meaningless most of the time.

Because many people skip filler episodes, it’s a waste of money for the studio that produced the anime. If you think about it - one anime episode is at least $100,000 - filler or canon.

The other issue is most people don’t know if an anime episode is filler unless it’s marked as filler, and they question things like “how is this related to the story?” Some TV channels streams anime with filler episodes (if the anime have fillers), which can be annoying.

aren't canon by the storyline progression. A lot of times characters are introduced that are never seen again, the main characters get powers that are never used again, and in general it confuses people who haven't read the manga and know that it's filler.

  1. the scriptwriters usually aren’t as good at story-telling as the original author
  2. they may accidentally take the character or story in the wrong direction and so make it harder for them to reconcile the anime with the original material later on.

The thing is, fillers are something that doesn’t deliver into contributing the main plot and gives much to be desired, it most of the time isn’t something that will turn into something bigger and after finishing it, most of the short adventures of a filler will probably be long forgotten if it’s a long series and the long fillers most likely would remembered but it somewhat feels like ‘wasted time’ as a series goes “look, we couldn’t think of anything for the moment so here’s an extensively long adventure” then after gaining more source material, idea on what to do next or just to ‘fill in the anime’ they go “Alright, playtime’s over, now where were we?” it somewhat feels, useless and unnecessary. Also, fillers usually doesn’t really deliver the same enjoyment or satisfaction as the main plot does and although it’s the same cast and universe, it doesn’t feel the same.

filler episodes in anime are often a concern because they deviate from the original story, leaving fans eager for plot progression disappointed.

There’s an intense and insanely interesting battle going on, the episode ended with two attacks colliding, you’re itching to find out who comes out on top, and then boom, filler

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Formal-Pea-5917 · 5 months ago

Yes, unfortunately I jump

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minhosbae · 5 months ago

I normally never skip filler, in the last 30 episodes of Naruto I was like okay…I can’t handle it anymore… ONLY THEN did I. Because I love filler ep

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why do anime have filler episodes

Key Considerations on Filler Episodes in Anime

  1. Pacing Issues: Filler episodes help to slow down the story, allowing the manga source material to progress further ahead. This prevents the anime from catching up to the manga too quickly.

  2. Character Development: Filler episodes often focus on character backstories or side stories that may not be covered in the main plot. This can provide depth to characters and enrich the overall narrative.

  3. Audience Engagement: Filler can keep the audience engaged with the series while waiting for new content from the manga. It allows for more content to be produced without rushing the storyline.

  4. Creative Freedom: Filler episodes give writers and animators the opportunity to explore creative ideas that may not fit into the main storyline, allowing for unique and entertaining episodes.

  5. Market Demand: Popular series often have a large fanbase that desires more content, leading studios to create filler to satisfy viewer demand.

Takeaway: While filler episodes can sometimes feel unnecessary or detract from the main story, they serve important purposes in pacing, character development, and audience retention. If you're watching a series and encounter filler, consider it an opportunity to enjoy more of the world and characters, even if it's not part of the main plot.

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