TL;DR The Pythagorean theorem is widely used in construction, navigation, and various fields requiring structural calculations.
Construction and Rigging
The Pythagorean theorem is frequently applied in construction and rigging. It helps in checking if structures are squared, using techniques like the 3-4-5 method [2:1]. In entertainment rigging, it is used to calculate the length of legs needed for bracing and triangulating setups
[1:1]. This ensures that structures are stable and properly aligned.
Navigation and Distance Estimation
Understanding the Pythagorean theorem provides intuition about distances and can be useful in navigation. For instance, when driving, taking a direct route instead of one involving multiple turns can be visualized as walking the hypotenuse of a triangle, potentially saving time and distance [1:2]
[3:2].
Roofing and Fencing
In practical applications like roofing, the theorem assists in estimating materials needed for pitched roofs [1:4]. Similarly, when building fences or other structures, it helps ensure that angles and lengths are accurate, contributing to the overall integrity of the construction
[2:2].
Camera Blind Spots
Interestingly, the Pythagorean theorem can also be applied in calculating blind spots for CCTV cameras, which is crucial for security planning [1:3]. By understanding the geometry involved, one can optimize camera placement to minimize areas that are not covered.
Geometric and Mathematical Exploration
Beyond practical applications, the Pythagorean theorem serves as a foundation for exploring geometric relationships and mathematical proofs. Discussions around its extension into three dimensions or its use in proving other geometric principles highlight its versatility and importance in theoretical mathematics [4:3]
[4:6].
Understanding the Pythagorean theorem gives you an intuition about distance in general, for instance if you’re driving, a route that involves a straight shot followed by a 90 degree turn to reach your destination (sides a+b on a right triangle) will generally be longer than the alternative straight shot (side c on the triangle)
This is just an arbitrary example, but understanding basic math, geometry and physics grants you a certain intuition about the physical world around you that I think is invaluable
When I'm calculating the blind spot of cctv cameras to steal things from Best Buy.
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Estimating roofing material for a pitched roof
Zero answers - (well now one).
I work in entertainment rigging. I’m using it pretty much every day at work. But I also am not sitting down like “let me do the Pythagorean Theorem” I gotta figure out how long the leg of my bridal needs to be, which is all triangles. Also, triangles are structurally sound, so I’m also using it when triangulating things without thinking about math at all
When building a fence.
Yes but I build stuff so…
Checking if something is squared. For example, if you measure 3’ from one corner and 4’ from the other corner and you measure from the 2 lengths if it’s square it will equal 5’
The 3 4 5 method is an old school technique in construction
This is what I do, lol. I tell my friends I'm gonna walk the hypotenuse so I can walk less.
Pythagoras = Others
No, the sum of shorter sides has to be higher than longest side.
Wha...
(Pythagoras)² = (Others)² + (the other Others)²
Bro acting like Pythagoras discovered the triangle inequality
If building one side of the square road takes 190 bricks, how many bricks takes to build the desired path?
This is an awful thing to google about because I don't mean de Gua's theorem and I don't mean using the Pythagorean theorem in 3d where one of the legs is a diagonal that can be found with the Pythagorean theorem or problems like that. I mean are there any proofs of the Pythagorean theorem that use 3d shapes and theorems about them or dissections of 3d shapes to prove the Pythagorean theorem? Does this question even make any sense? Do you think this problem would be worth me exploring?
I don't know... musing out loud, but a cone is solid of revolution of a right triangle. Any relationships in a cone that would imply the pythagorean theorem?
Sure, the square of the length from tip to the circular edge is the sum of the squares of the perpendicular height and radius of the circular face. :)
This is honestly what I was sort of worried about lol, that any relationship I find will just be a convoluted way of expressing an analogous relationship in 2d
lol.
I think there is unlikely to be a satisfying answer to this question, although I cannot rule out the possibility.
Every proof I have seen of Pythagoras' theorem is essentially in one of three categories.
I will focus on only the first, because it seems most relevant to your question. Among geometric proofs there are essentially two avenues of approach.
The first avenue argues from the scaling properties of area (a contraction by a reduces area by a^(2)**). Area is an essentially two dimensional phenomenon so in three dimensions this would have to focus on surface areas.
The second avenue chases two pairs of similar figures, to show some segment is composed of copies of itself scaled by a twice and b twice, respectively. An argument of this type in three dimensions would involve looking at lines and angles, so care would need to be taken that it does not reduce to a two dimensional argument.
You may be interested in this collection of 122 geometric proofs of the Pythagorean theorem, non of which extend beyond the plane.
Lastly, you mentioned dissections of 3d shapes so this closely related problem might be relevant. Is there a 3d polyhedron that can be dissected into two pieces similar to itself? The first geometric proof of Pythagoras would apply here also, and yield a^(3)**+b*^(3)=c^(3)**.*
>Lastly, you mentioned dissections of 3d shapes so this closely related problem might be relevant. Is there a 3d polyhedron that can be dissected into two pieces similar to itself? The first geometric proof of Pythagoras would apply here also, and yield a^(3)+b^(3)=c^(3).
This is surprisingly hard to think about. If you cut a cuboid with dimensions 1:2^(⅓):2^(⅔) in half lengthwise, you get two cuboids with dimensions 2^(-⅓):1:2^(⅓), which are similar to the original. Are there other examples?
EDIT: Of course parallelepipeds with the same dimensions, as Google points out. Any others?
That's the only solution I'm aware of. At least from when this was discussed on MSE/MO, other solutions aren't known (yet).
I'm not aware of any proof like that. But I also think you might be wasting your time looking for one.
Sometimes a statement about objects in one number of dimensions can be proven by adding dimensions. There are two situations I can think of where that's interesting:
The usual proofs of the Pythagorean theorem that work by cutting up squares and moving the pieces around are very simple. That means Option 1 is out of the picture.
Option 2 can't really be planned for. Either you do work in some unrelated theory and suddenly the Pythagorean theorem pops up, or not.
I think you should pursue it. This sounds interesting.
Does the Riemann sphere count? Since on the sphere straight lines become circles, the rank 2, three term Grassmann-Plücker relation proves Ptolemy which proves Pythagoras.
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A question, isnt f(θ) always a²sec²(θ) ? As in f(θ) cannot be an arbitrary function, it is a fixed function.
Imagine this:
You’re helping your family put up a ladder to reach the roof.
Now use Pythagoras’ Theorem:
a2+b2=c2a^2 + b^2 = c^2a2+b2=c2 62+82=c26^2 + 8^2 = c^262+82=c2 36+64=c236 + 64 = c^236+64=c2 100=c2100 = c^2100=c2 c=100=10c = \sqrt{100} = 10c=100=10
✅ The ladder should be 10 feet long!
This helps you make sure the ladder is safe and will reach properly.
The ladder problem is of the classic "Solve Pythagoras' Theorem so that a, b, and c are all integer values".
I think the ladder can have a real length, though.
Of course.
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/ul there’s a difference between using something because it works and proving exactly why it works. pythagoras did the latter. it’s called “pythagorean theorem” because he is who proved the theorem, not because he is the one who thought of it first.
/ul Also not true. There are no surviving writings of Pythagoras. Only second hand sources about him or his following. Also, there are surviving proofs of this theorem dating even further back than Pythagoras from ancient China.
/ul wait, he didn't invent it?
/ul No, it was used by the Babylonians, Egyptians and Chinese for thousands of years before Pythagoras.
Definitively the Chinese, Babylonians and Egyptians didn't use the Pythagorean theorem thousands of years before Pythagoras, and he didn't formally prove It and popularized
/ul Nobody invents anything in field of mathematics, these things are discovered if we want to be pedantic. The Pythagorean theorem is a special case for trigonometry which he discovered and simplified. You could have had done the exact same calculations with sin and cos, but it's just a simplified form, which works.
>Nobody invents anything in field of mathematics, these things are discovered if we want to be pedantic
Definitely true.
/ul I completely agree, but we shouldn't pretend that isn't a debate within the philosophy of mathematics. Some people firmly believe math is invented and others that it is discovered. The difference is whether you believe math is a tool that exists because we created it or a property of underlying logical systems that would exist whether we did or not
Lies, I’ve invented loads in the field of mathematics.
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To prove the theory, you must first calculate the square root of one of the sides, it's done using the Vieta's formula:
Step1:
For polynomials over a commutative ring that is not an integral domain, Vieta's formulas are only valid whenanis not a zero-divisor andP(x)factors asan(x−r1)(x−r2)…(x−rn). For example, in the ring of the integers modulo 8, the quadratic polynomialP(x)=x2−1has four roots: 1, 3, 5, and 7. Vieta's formulas are not true if, say,r1=1andr2=3, becauseP(x)≠(x−1)(x−3). However,P(x)does factor as(x−1)(x−7)and also as(x−3)(x−5), and Vieta's formulas hold if we set eitherr1=1andr2=7orr1=3andr2=5.
Step2:
Using the above solution, you apply the resulting 2 squares to Schroedinger equation for the hydrogen atom. U^(t/N)N=U^(t)for anyN>0. ThenU^(t)depends upon the parametertin.
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Using the solution you can prove this post being a lie.
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But he didnt invent it? The Chinese and Babylonians knew it
/ul I know where you are going with this. Trigonometry was known before. He found and popularized simplified method for right angled triangles. Hence the "invented" term.
At first, I thought although there was a lot of interconnection between physics and maths, number theory shouldn't be part of the game. But later I was informed by a mathematician in mathematical physics that physicists even care about something like non-abelian extensions of the rational field or something even more complicated. That was mind-blowing to me.
I believe in this sub there are some people whose interests lie in the intersection of number theory and physics. So, if you are, do you have some interesting examples of "number theory in physics" that you want more people to know?
By the way, I think it should be ok to assume some related basic background in maths, like representation theory (finite groups and Lie algebras), Galois theory, manifolds and modular form, if the speaker thinks it is difficult to explain without them.
I'm in the process of building a primary root acoustic diffuser (sometimes called a PRD or skyline for aid in googling). I've yet to really grasp why the design is the way it is, but it's built over number theory concepts. Reading over the patent, the cited math papers were sometimes within a year or two of the release of the patent itself in the 90s - so it was done with some cutting edge math for the time.
If anyone has a key intuition for how it works, please share!
Schroeder's Number Theory in Science and Communication has a chapter about concert hall acoustics, if that helps. Quote:
"Other applications [of Galois sequences] are in radar and sonar camouflage, and in noise abatement, because Galois sequences permit the design of surfaces that scatter incoming waves very broadly, thereby making reflected energy 'invisible' or 'inaudible.'"
It's a great book in many respects.
The number theory used by Schroeder in designing diffusers was not "cutting edge" but over 100 years old and fairly elementary stuff. The application was novel, but not the math.
Depends what you mean by number theory...
Modular forms are foundational in conformal field theory which is a theoretical physicists playground for a number of topics...
Take a look at the journal 'Communications in Number Theory and Physics'. Lots of string theory inspired/derived stuff.
>which is a theoretical physicists playground for a number of topics...
But not a topic of numbers...
Yeah sorry shit joke
This gives me more substance to respond with when people ask me what the applications are for what I do. Thanks :D
See the book “From Number Theory to Physics”.
Ok so i got my PhD in connections between string theory and number theory. I think my favorite example of this connection is the fact that black hole entropies are given by the Fourier coefficients of modular forms. This is particularly clear in the context of so-called small black holes, where literally the number of states in a black hole of mass $n$ is given by the $n$-th Fourier coefficient of 1/Delta(tau). where Delta is the weight-12 cusp form. In fact, the Fourier coefficients of this modular form admit an exact series expansion known as a Rademacher series, which takes the form of a sum over elements of (a quotient of) SL_2(Z). The exact same series appears in the evaluation of the gravitational path integral which is supposed to compute this entropy, so we have a highly nontrivial matching between the number theory result and actual string theory.
I can go on for hours about other connections between string theory and number theory (or, ya know, write a thesis about it :p), but I think this is the most striking demonstration.
Just as an example, here, a hamiltonian is constructed whose eigenfunctions given an appropriate boundary value have associated eigenvalues corresponding to the zeroes of the Riemann Zeta function.
This kind of work is so cool to me. What if we could construct such a quantum system and therefore experimentally verify the Riemann hypothesis?
We can already numerically check RH up to heights way beyond what is experimentally realistic from any proposed physical model. No physical model can prove a number (like a real part) is exactly 1/2 while in math we can prove all zeros up to specified heights have real part exactly 1/2.
And please see https://arxiv.org/abs/1704.02644.
I've heard about all the applications in physics and computer graphics, but what about pure mathematics? Does differential geometry have any interesting connections/applications in other pure math fields?
Check out: A Panoramic View of Riemannian Geometry
Differential geometry IS pure mathematics! It’s connected to lots of other fields of pure math, including topology, dynamical systems, harmonic analysis, algebraic geometry, category theory, PDE, etc.
To elaborate a bit:
Topology: you can understand the topology of a manifold via certain differential operators on the manifold (de Rham cohomology, also index theory)
Dynamical systems: the behavior of a dynamical system is often encoded in some type of manifold, so studying the underlying manifold is a good way to understand the original system.
Harmonic analysis: the behavior of the Fourier transform of surface measures supported on manifolds is closely linked to the curvature of the manifold
PDE: Techniques from differential geometry (namely convex integration from Nash’s embedding theorem) were used to construct weak solutions to fluid equations with very strange properties
Algebraic geometry: Can’t claim to know enough to comment, maybe someone else can fill this in for me :)
Re algebraic geometry, I’d also argue that many manifolds we’re interested in are also nice varieties - even in physics. Calabi-Yau manifolds, providing the ‘extra six dimensions’ of string theory, for example, are both (especially if we generalise the algebraic side to schemes and the ‘differential’ side to orbifolds etc.). In general, we can characterise complex manifolds both differentially (via a complex form) and algebraically via Chow’s theorem in the projective case, and other ‘GAGA’ (géométrie algébrique et géométrie analytique) ideas more generally. Many other structures from both fields can also be related.
Algebrogeometric results are this used to prove differential geometric results all the time, and vice versa, in several massive interplays, and many results are just… both. It’s often been hard to say whether a lot of work I’ve done (or used to do…) is more algebraic geometry or differential geometry, with differential structures and systems of DEs as well as algebro-geometric invariants and stacks and such all flying around
Certain complex manifolds are algebraic manifolds. So, some problems in algebraic geometry can be translated in analytical geometry notions and solved by analytic technique, e.g. Kodaira vanishing theorem, Frankel conjecture ...
There is a wikipedia page on the topic "Algebraic geometry and analytic geometry".
Algebraic geometry: existence of canonical metrics is often equivalent to stability conditions from algebraic geometry. For example, a holomorphic vector bundle is slope-polystable if and only if it admits a Hermitian-Einstein metric. Exploiting this equivalence led to solutions to both AG problems (Atiyah-Bott) and DG problems (Donaldson invariants).
(Nice answer! I tried to fill it in for ya!)
Differential Geometry is pure maths, isn't it ?
Yes I know, but my prior understanding was that it's mainly used in physics, so I was trying to decide how much time I should devote to it.
You have theoretical physics and experimental physics as well.
Ricci flow is the key ingredient behind Perelman’s solution to the Poincaré conjecture.
Sure, it has many applications in topology, especially low dimensions and this has repercussions for higher dimensional topology, often via obstruction theory. See things like the Poincare conjecture and computations of diffeomorphism groups via hyperbolic geometry.
Thanks!
Hello, idk how frequently this has been asked here, but I've been doing abstract algebra and other pure math topics for about 1 semester now. I've loved the theory part of it but would also now like to expand my knowledge to the applications of these abstract concepts. Was blown away just by reading how group theory is applied in chemistry, and now would like to be blown away by other applications of these concepts, not just limited to group theory. So if you guys have any books that explains the applications of pure math topics well, please do let me know. Thank youu
There's Invitation to Non-Linear Algebra which touches upon various applications, though it's main focus is introducing the math with a view towards them.
Since I have them already, here's a link to some slides from an informal presentation I gave recently on applications of abstract algebra to software engineering.
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1WnKadU0fVers_VUihQO_UGjeu2e4kHLHxYjz4H6aPtc/edit?usp=sharing
You'll notice a strong flavor of universal algebra especially in the beginning, setting this apart from the focus on specific structures you see in most algebra in the math world. The applications in general have a character that is perhaps unfamiliar to many mathematicians. Although there are a few places where deep theorems might matter, what matters a lot more is having a strong intuition for how to model the structure of things with algebraic properties and structures, and recognizing that when things like closure, associativity, commutativity, and idempotence arise, they are good signs that you have modeled ideas in a good way.
This isn't to say that you won't also end up appying software engineering to problems where there's algebra involved in understanding the problem domain. If you're working in cryptography, for instance, you'll think a lot about number theory elliptical curves, etc. If you're working in machine learning, you'll use a lot of linear algebra. And so on.
But this presentation tries to stay focused on the role algebra plays in the essence of software engineering as an activity, not in the accident of which domain you are applying the skill.
I mean what isn't algebra applied to? It's pretty versatile. Galois theory goes into encryption algorithms, eigen vectors go into computer graphics. Linear transforms goes into statistics. Group representation goes into quantum mechanics.
Ooh thanks! I love representation theory and linear transforms, haven't done much of galois theory. Thanks for the input, will look into it!
Quantum Mechanics is basically applied representation theory and linear algebra
It is very cool and uses a surprising amount of linear algebra.
How do eigenvectors go into computer graphics
Just when you think you’ve made it clear of Lie groups one jumps you in the parking lot.
My students certainly agree. Everything is linear to them. Sine, cosine, logs, arctangents, exponents, roots,...
Here's a video describing how group theory was used to solve a complex problem in computer science
Haha same. I just wanted to share this to try and kind of show how AA relates to other fields of science
applications of the Pythagorean theorem
Key Applications of the Pythagorean Theorem
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Takeaway: The Pythagorean theorem is a fundamental principle that extends beyond mathematics into various fields, making it a versatile tool for problem-solving in real-world applications. Understanding its applications can enhance your analytical skills in both academic and practical scenarios.
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