I bought myself a 2017 Buick Encore Essence last year; ever since I got it, I have had zero regrets (paid in cash), and it has been treating me very well. I got it used at 48,000 miles and have now put around 6,000 miles into it.

If you are getting a Buick, get an Encore. They are the best styles that they have.

Can’t purchase a Buick, they don’t build a full size , rear wheel drive , sedan with a V6 or V8 engine. I dislike SUV’s 

I never even thought of them while shopping mid size SUVs but my husband brought it up after I tested mazda, kia, Honda, Toyota, VW and a few other makes.. The Envision was last and the best ride. I'm buying one tomorrow.

My dream car is a green 1959 Buick Electra 225 4 door hard top lol

Extremely, extremely reliable. Very good looking recent models.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2023/02/buick-ranks-high-in-j-d-power-2023-u-s-vehicle-dependability-study/

There are many ways to play these numbers. Some brands say change brake fluid over 3 years in the main guide... others don't. "Lifetime" trans fluid...

Most cars are similar. Do the brake fluid liste or not. Find out spark plug change interval as that varies. Don't rely too much on numbers. I owned a Buick, and Lexus, and Cadillac, and Lincoln. Cadillac XTS has been by far the cheapest over 9 years. No timing belt, spark plugs oncem coolant twice, etc. Even with AWD it has been a breeze. Even so, I needed new struts and to get OE (and they are magnetic ride control) they were a fortune.

Look for reliability with maintenance. Except EVs, all cars are similar: oil, brake fluid changes, trans fluid, spark plugs, coolant, air/cabin filters. Add extra for AWD and nmaybe cvts needing more fluid changes. Consider hybrid battery replacement risk if you keep the car ages. If a car still uses a timing belt (Buick Envista supposedly at 150k) factor that in...

I liked my Buick, but doubt it is inherently cheaper in the long run.

It’s odd to see such a gap between Buick and Chevy given 3/4 Buick offerings in the US are shared platforms with Chevy (Envista-Trax, Encore-Trailblazer, and Enclave-Traverse). I wonder if Chevy’s other offerings drag them down.

It’s a shame they stopped making sedans. Owned a 2006 and currently a 2013 LaCrosse. Night and day. Close to 100,000 miles, routine maintenance except for a vacuum hose and brake calipers(kept outside and NE winters), and an A/C compressor

I couldn't tell you because according to the commercial, buick does not look like a Buick, and it is like a good thing. So everytime I look for a Buick, I never see one. "Is that a buick your driving". Of course not because it is a buick that does not look like a buick.

Indeed. I have been in an Impala. The XTS AWD helps torque steer, and the car is comfortable. Having owned a Lesabre before, the XTS came closest, and other Cadillacs (CTS etc.) seemed less reliable. I tried a 2016 Lacrosse and it was very smooth but felt even smaller, with bad visibility. (17 didn't do it for me either). The MRC is unfortunate but the car has been good. I've had ct5s as loaners and they don;t do it for me, even if they are a "real" Cadillac. At 28k for a 1 year old XTS with 25k miles on it, it was in retrospect a great value.

Unless you bought it used.

Press X to Doubt.

Edit: I'm totally sure a 2017 Lacrosse is worth more than it was new...

Damn some of y'all are dense, this doesn't take a genius to figure out that a nearly 10y/o Impala based sedan didn't age well when considering residual values...

Your local salesperson has a great day when you walk in the door, I'm sure.

F*ck Buick ... I want Pontiac back!

Buick Envista has very attractive styling. The power train however…

I think pontiac could do well if it was reborn as a Subaru Crosstrek/Forester competitor.

That's Buick's problem. It had market share in China and some other parts of Asia so when they went CUV-only it went from an upmarket brand with plush barges and not-quite-Cadillac appointments to a company selling economy platforms from Korea and China.

The brand has no identity. Its market share in China has collapsed. Its US customer base is old people who are dying off and they liked the luxury barges that Buick hasn't made in 15 years. I don't know who GM is trying to appeal to with the brand. It should have exited the US market ages ago or become the GM EV brand instead of Cadillac.

I love my 19’ AWD regal Sportback. Think it will be my last newer car purchase. I want to hold onto it as long as I can. All round just a damn good car.

All crossovers--the only SUV Buick's ever sold was the Rainier, a Trailblazer sibling.

The Buick Envista kinda looks like a mini Urus if you squint a bit.

Bring back the TourX, give it whatever the performance trim was on the sedan.

They'd sell dozens!

#😤

Buicks are underrated if you’re not into speed or performance imo. Go for it!

I'm not a huge fan of Buick, but my wife's folks has a 2017 of one of these and its held up great. The interior is very comfortable too.

It's Buicks best model, apparently quality control on China is better than American models

American car manufacturers must be desperate. Dropping below MSRP is unheard of in this market

How did you manage to negotiate that deal? Lol I'm interested in a Buick now.

That’s a story and a half lol. The Buicks a steal. Most people buying a German car for the badge anyway

You had 9 Buick dealerships close to you?

$5200 off of MSRP? Go for it! I'm not too big on GM, but the Buicks are a decent amount more reliable

That's crazy- I would have thought it was made in MX alongside the Blazer. Buick's line in China has been in production for something on the order of 22 years, because Buick is probably one of the most important brands to GM in that market.

Get a 2000-2004 Lesabre you'll thank me later

Either car is great, but definitely opt for the supercharged variants. With a 5k budget you should be able to afford a real nice Ultra or GS. source: had a GS myself and loved it, more of a straight line car though, learned the hard way breaking loose around a tight corner and losing it to a tree stump...

mechanically speaking, I'd stick with something that you can find that was supercharged. (for some reason the LS4 lacrosse's don't come with the 4t-65e Heavy Duty version :|)

I've actually been looking to sell my 1995 Park Avenue, if you're interested. The only real issues are the car alarm going off sometimes, and it's got low oil pressure when it warms up, but only at idle. It isn't in the red, though. Still within operating range. It's got the common clear coat issues of 90s-era GM, but everything else is perfect. It just got a new intake manifold, new head gaskets, and new plugs and wires. I've been asking $1,750.

3rd gen Park Avenue's are one of my favourite cars there are. I've had two and they are great.

Well you never really said what you actually like about buicks. How am I going to change your mind about them?

I just purchased a 15 Regal Turbo AWD, because it is really a nice luxury ride and has great reliability, from an answer from a dealer on another thread I posted here.

I think you should go to a few reputable dealers and do some test drives. Be ready to fall in love. I did.

Check out the Lacross, and I think the Enclave SUV. I love the AWD option on the one I bought, and it does have the headroom for 6’4” easily. The AWD feels like it’s glued to the road, and the Turbo pushes you back in the seat.

I opted to get the 60 month bumper to bumper on a Certified Pre Owned one, just for peace of mind, as they are rolling computers.

I remember letting a 6’8” guy sit in my Riviera. He said it had more leg room than his Ford Expedition.

Get a Toyota Avalon and achieve your final form.

Crown Victoria is the other blue haired granny sled.

(my 80 year old grandma has one)

Nothing is more expensive than a cheap luxury car.

Your only viable option is a perfectly maintained late 90s or early 2000s fully loaded Camry. I think.

As far as the Lincolns go, mks should be ok, depends on year and drivetrain option. Don’t get a mkx. I would say mkz would be best as far as Lincoln’s, but you want to tow.

that is very very cheap man

Volvo S80 or XC90 with the 6 cylinder in it. If I didn’t need to have a nicer car for work, I’d drive the S80. You can find all the features you’re looking for with a Volvo. 

My 2005 S80 is still one of my favorite cars. I really enjoyed driving the XC90 but for a more sporty feel you’d want the S80. 

If you’d like a V8 they did offer that option for a few years but it’s not as reliable as the 6 cylinder.  

If you go this route, find a Volvo or European tech to service your car.  

I should add - I'm going to see the Hyundai Genesis tomorrow. Anything I should be concerned about? Is that not a good price?

I test drove one years ago that I really liked (as well as an Equus that I loved, but 16 mpg is hilarious.) It seems like they were really nice cars that people didn't take seriously because they are just a Hyundai. So they started a separate make and now I see Genesis everywhere. One owner has to mean a reliable car, right?

REALLY big in China and also Buick is for the mid level professionals that want to look sharp and have some luxury without the cost and pretentiousness associated with Cadillac

It is the case. You can find varied datasets, this one is from 10 years ago so it’s a bit outdated. The average Buick customer was 60.3 in 2013. Only Lincoln had older customers

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/10/04/24-7-wall-st-cars-oldest-buyers/16587437/#:~:text=With%20an%20average%20customer%20age,any%20other%20non%2Dluxury%20vehicle.

It's the brand that won't die.

I bought an Oldsmobile, they killed it off.

Later I bought a Saturn, they killed it off.

Then I bought a Buick, and they just can't seem to find a way....

Old people fucking love Buicks

Huge in China! It’s a Status symbol if you own a Buick there. Maybe the equivalent to some sort of luxury foreign car here. I know for a while they were buying up all the classic Buicks they could get their hands on.

What is the envista then? I notice a lot of similar components with other GM vehicles. Among new cars (work at multiple dealers,mostly big 3 and little bit of foreign market, I love it. Makes me think of an upgraded Chevy trax which with the knee ones I wouldn’t complain of owning

That is how Buick was saved after the 2009 bankruptcy. The automotive task force wanted GM to only have 2 brands...Chevrolet and Cadillac. The strength of Buick in China spared the Buick-GMC dealer network.

I have the sister car a ‘24 2RS Trax with 30k on it, 18 months old and I am on the highway everyday 80 miles round trip, plenty of power. If the three cylinder continues to treat me well my next one will be the Envista ST. The Buick comes with more amenities than the Trax.

Nice!!! I hit 1 yr in early July. I am just hitting 37500 and needing oil change, prob tomorrow night.

No big complaints at all, and gas mileage is awesome.

Its gorgeous! We are nearly at the one year mark with our ST and absolutely love it. No complaints. Tremendous value.

Guys. Serious question for you. One concern I have is the speed. Is the Envista really as slow ‘some’ folks claim?

If this color was in the preferred, I would've done this color