I'm not a huge fan of Buick, but my wife's folks has a 2017 of one of these and its held up great. The interior is very comfortable too.

It's Buicks best model, apparently quality control on China is better than American models

Buicks are underrated if you’re not into speed or performance imo. Go for it!

American car manufacturers must be desperate. Dropping below MSRP is unheard of in this market

How did you manage to negotiate that deal? Lol I'm interested in a Buick now.

That's crazy- I would have thought it was made in MX alongside the Blazer. Buick's line in China has been in production for something on the order of 22 years, because Buick is probably one of the most important brands to GM in that market.

You had 9 Buick dealerships close to you?

That’s a story and a half lol. The Buicks a steal. Most people buying a German car for the badge anyway

$5200 off of MSRP? Go for it! I'm not too big on GM, but the Buicks are a decent amount more reliable

Truthfully if you like styling of buick I would look at Lincoln and the Nautilus or the Corsair. I loved the corsair if I wasn't getting a truck at the time .

Stick with Buick, I think your price point might make it harder to get a Cadillac XT5 which kinda fits the midsize segment you’re looking for.

Apparently the XT4 shares the same platform as the Envision but I view them as more compact vs midsize. But could be found at your price target.

Stay with Buick. If you need a change get a GMC or Chevy. You won’t like the feel of a foreign car since you’re so used to Buick. I am currently considering a Buick. I think they have done a nice job of modernizing them, even the emblems. Good luck.

Stick with Buick. Someday they won’t be as available as they are now. Find a good used one if you can.

The Lincoln Nautilus and Lexus RX are the natural competition here.

There are many ways to play these numbers. Some brands say change brake fluid over 3 years in the main guide... others don't. "Lifetime" trans fluid...

Most cars are similar. Do the brake fluid liste or not. Find out spark plug change interval as that varies. Don't rely too much on numbers. I owned a Buick, and Lexus, and Cadillac, and Lincoln. Cadillac XTS has been by far the cheapest over 9 years. No timing belt, spark plugs oncem coolant twice, etc. Even with AWD it has been a breeze. Even so, I needed new struts and to get OE (and they are magnetic ride control) they were a fortune.

Look for reliability with maintenance. Except EVs, all cars are similar: oil, brake fluid changes, trans fluid, spark plugs, coolant, air/cabin filters. Add extra for AWD and nmaybe cvts needing more fluid changes. Consider hybrid battery replacement risk if you keep the car ages. If a car still uses a timing belt (Buick Envista supposedly at 150k) factor that in...

I liked my Buick, but doubt it is inherently cheaper in the long run.

I couldn't tell you because according to the commercial, buick does not look like a Buick, and it is like a good thing. So everytime I look for a Buick, I never see one. "Is that a buick your driving". Of course not because it is a buick that does not look like a buick.

It’s a shame they stopped making sedans. Owned a 2006 and currently a 2013 LaCrosse. Night and day. Close to 100,000 miles, routine maintenance except for a vacuum hose and brake calipers(kept outside and NE winters), and an A/C compressor

Indeed. I have been in an Impala. The XTS AWD helps torque steer, and the car is comfortable. Having owned a Lesabre before, the XTS came closest, and other Cadillacs (CTS etc.) seemed less reliable. I tried a 2016 Lacrosse and it was very smooth but felt even smaller, with bad visibility. (17 didn't do it for me either). The MRC is unfortunate but the car has been good. I've had ct5s as loaners and they don;t do it for me, even if they are a "real" Cadillac. At 28k for a 1 year old XTS with 25k miles on it, it was in retrospect a great value.

Unless you bought it used.

Press X to Doubt.

Edit: I'm totally sure a 2017 Lacrosse is worth more than it was new...

Damn some of y'all are dense, this doesn't take a genius to figure out that a nearly 10y/o Impala based sedan didn't age well when considering residual values...

Your local salesperson has a great day when you walk in the door, I'm sure.

It’s odd to see such a gap between Buick and Chevy given 3/4 Buick offerings in the US are shared platforms with Chevy (Envista-Trax, Encore-Trailblazer, and Enclave-Traverse). I wonder if Chevy’s other offerings drag them down.

They’re extremely boring, but objectively good cars. Good features, solid reliability, reasonably comfortable, cheap. Just boring lol

My mom had a Buick Enclave for 12 years without a single issue. They’re not exciting vehicles but seem to be very reliable and quite comfortable.

I work at a car dealership that sells three import brands (euro/japan/korea) and every kind of used car under the sun… I have driven everything on the road shy of supercars.

When my wife’s basic-ass Toyota got destroyed in a flood, I had to find her a vehicle quickly and decided to buy her the “best deal” on the lot

We got her a 2022 Buick Envision and she absolutely loves it. It is featured to the moon- (heated steering wheel & seats, 360 camera, blind spot, heated mirrors, park assist, great leather, proximity keys, power kick liftgate, wireless carplay, remote start, heads up display, adaptive cruise, etc). It’s very comfortable, it’s sufficiently peppy for her needs and it looks nice if not a little boring. The build quality is very good and the materials feel more premium than certainly Toyota and Honda. Hers is FWD and I wish it was AWD but she doesn’t drive in inclement weather anyway, so who cares- it gets better MPG than the AWD would.

They don’t sell a ton of these in the US, but they sell about a billion of them in China and the drivetrain is proven.

I will say the back up camera in this Buick is the best backup camera I have ever seen in any vehicle at any price period

They are mediocre cars at a good price. Value sells. Go test drive it and see for yourself! I personally thought the envista seats were hilariously uncomfortable. I think it was the headrest that sucked

They are actually the top brand for DUIs lol

It is value. Buick offers more premium features and comforts for a more affordable price than the competition. Plus they have some sharp looking cars recently

What’s with the hate for new Buicks? Genuinely asking because I’ve been looking at the enclave

For Buick/GM it’s all about where the market is at

Take the Buick Regal Tour X: it is probably the best looking wagon on the road today but was discontinued. Why? It couldn’t even crack 20% of the Regal’s 14,000 models sold in the United States in 2018.

Buick made some brilliant stuff in the 2010’s but consumers moved on sadly. It’s crossovers and SUVs for the foreseeable future. Buick-GMC Dealers can’t keep the Envista on lots so it’s obviously down to modern taste.

Was looking at EV's when I walked by an Envista. Couple thousand miles later and it still impresses. A very good value for the price. Long term, we shall see.

I'd absolutely love it if Buick started making sedans again. In general I'd love it if GM as a whole made sedans again, with the Malibu out they basically only have Cadillac to work with and that's not in most people's budgets. I vaguely get why they stopped, but at the same time it feels more like they purposefully treated their own sedans like shit so that people bought them less and they could justify not making them anymore.

That being said the Buick crossovers are kinda nice and have a surprising amount of personality in comparison to a lot of other crossovers that they compete with. Like in terms of style + value the Envista is basically a league of its own in the crossover space, I don't think you can get a better value crossover considering how much cheaper it is than a lot of subcompacts + it looks and feels a lot nicer than what you'd expect. Everything else is either thousands of dollars more expensive, a sedan (aka not a direct competitor) or the Chevy Trax which is essentially the same thing (but louder/less comfortable/in my opinion at least worse design.)

Because of the crossover craze and wanting to get away from their at the time buyers ( dinosaurs) and start selling crossovers with garbage engines and parts that won't last long but the 22 year old kid looks at it and sees LED lights and lots of junk tech to put stars in his eyes . This created a demand for old Buicks and Grand Marquis . So many people are online hunting for them . I bet if the LeSabre or Grand Marquis went back into production they would become the best selling sedan .

Why did Buick drop all of their nice cars and replace them with cookie cutter crossovers? is a better question. Maybe china didn't have crossovers at the time and seen ours in which created a demand for them. That's just a hypothesis by the way.

It's still a Buick though...

Are you 80? If not it’s a poor choice. These have good reliability ratings because people in their target demographic don’t drive much and drive slow. If you treat it like a normal car it’s just more gm garbage.

It’s a GM vehicle. Good rule of thumb is 10 years or 100k miles. They are designed to become money pits after that. Personally, I don’t buy GM anymore.

Someone was saying theirs was rock solid at over 300k miles today

Iirc some new ones have wet timing belts which mean something extra to keep maintained or it could grenade the engine.

REALLY big in China and also Buick is for the mid level professionals that want to look sharp and have some luxury without the cost and pretentiousness associated with Cadillac

It is the case. You can find varied datasets, this one is from 10 years ago so it’s a bit outdated. The average Buick customer was 60.3 in 2013. Only Lincoln had older customers

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/10/04/24-7-wall-st-cars-oldest-buyers/16587437/#:~:text=With%20an%20average%20customer%20age,any%20other%20non%2Dluxury%20vehicle.

It's the brand that won't die.

I bought an Oldsmobile, they killed it off.

Later I bought a Saturn, they killed it off.

Then I bought a Buick, and they just can't seem to find a way....

What is the envista then? I notice a lot of similar components with other GM vehicles. Among new cars (work at multiple dealers,mostly big 3 and little bit of foreign market, I love it. Makes me think of an upgraded Chevy trax which with the knee ones I wouldn’t complain of owning

Old people fucking love Buicks

Huge in China! It’s a Status symbol if you own a Buick there. Maybe the equivalent to some sort of luxury foreign car here. I know for a while they were buying up all the classic Buicks they could get their hands on.

That is how Buick was saved after the 2009 bankruptcy. The automotive task force wanted GM to only have 2 brands...Chevrolet and Cadillac. The strength of Buick in China spared the Buick-GMC dealer network.

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Close behind is the Hyundai Creta, known for its strong sales and versatile engine options. The Maruti Brezza stands out for reliability and efficiency, while the Tata Nexon impresses with its 5-star safety rating and EV option.

But overall, the Kia Seltos remains the most complete package in its class.

2025 lexus gx 550 are my top

For daily use, this one has a quiet cabin and smooth ride, and isn’t overpriced.

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Definitely Kia telluride

I'm a wagon guy. First time I saw one I was driving down 90 and it passed me. I was like...wtf was that? Sped up to catch it... a fucking BUICK!?! When the fuck did that come out... got to my destination and immediately had to look it up... Came very close to buying one when they were discontinuing them.

The buick is a great car. I wanted one those really badly but they never put the 3.6 v6 in the wagon version which is the combonation I really wanted.

Ok yeah I'm going for the Buick. Also adding that I'm trading in my 2016 Audi A3 for this. Great car but just to small for me lately after owning for 5 years. The Opel has that European feel and it's A WAGAON which I love so much. It was hard finding these they are so rare. But thank you everyone for the help. I love this subreddit so much!

Oh please get the Buick. They’re both German cars (the Buick is an Opel Insignia). It’s got way more space and power and it’s an actual sexy wagon.

My 3.6L LFX rocks. Over 300 HP makes my LaCrosse move - incredible how fast it is.

The new Buick envista looks like a less aggressive Lamborghini urus. I was surprised GM chose to give that design to their Buick brand since the brand is almost reserved for old people

They didn't advertise the TourX or Sportback... Imo they half assed the interior bc they knew they were going to drop it after it's lifecycle... When they could have easily made that vehicle along the Malibu/XT4 in their Kansas plant.

I almost bought the TourX but I couldn't get past no ventilated seats or that it was mostly carryover from Chevy. Then I looked at GS but I would have preferred the power increase of the V6 that was in the CTS. Plus the price I was like I'll wait for some other sucker to pay the depreciation. 43k for these was ridiculous imo

What is this, a Buick commercial?

Colours made a huge difference too, I’ve got an Alltrack in red and it looks a lot better than grey. But no denying that is a sexy buick!