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Best Budget-Friendly French Wines

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Best Budget-Friendly French Wines

Côtes du Rhône and Beaujolais

For those seeking budget-friendly French wines, Côtes du Rhône and Beaujolais are excellent options. The Chateau de Saint Cosme Côtes du Rhône is highly recommended for its quality and affordability, often outperforming more expensive Rhône wines [1]. It offers flavors of red fruit, leather, and pepper, embodying the southern Rhône in a bottle [1:2]. Additionally, Jean Foillard's Beaujolais-Villages and Morgon Côte du Py are praised for their exceptional value and taste, making them great choices for gatherings like Thanksgiving [1:3], [4:1].

Bordeaux Under $25

Affordable Bordeaux wines can also be found, such as Château Clauzet from Saint Estephe and Le G de Chateau Guiraud for whites [3]. Other notable mentions include Chateau Hyot and Château Peybonhomme-les Tours, which offer exceptional quality without the hefty price tag [3:1]. These selections provide an opportunity to enjoy the classic Bordeaux experience on a budget.

Burgundy Options

In Burgundy, producers like Jean-Baptiste Ponsot and Sylvain Pataille offer wines that deliver great value. Ponsot's whites are compared to some of the region's best but at a more affordable price [2:1]. Pataille's Bourgogne Rouge and Marsannay are within a reasonable price range and are well-regarded by enthusiasts [2:2]. Dureuil-Janthial is another producer noted for offering immense value in Burgundy, particularly with their Rully En Guesnes cuvée [5].

General Recommendations

Exploring wines from lesser-known regions or producers can yield hidden gems. For instance, Domaine Bachelet and Henri Prudhon are mentioned as providing nice value in Burgundy [2:3], [2:5]. Additionally, South African wines, particularly Merlots and Pinotages, are suggested as good value alternatives to French wines [4:4].

When selecting budget-friendly French wines, consider exploring these recommended regions and producers to find high-quality options that won't break the bank.

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Top 3 $20 Reds for Frugal Fall

Posted by scoc89 · in r/wine · 25 days ago
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Fall is here in the states and most folks I know are experiencing some amount of job insecurity (me included). In the spirit of pinching pennies without sacrificing happiness, I’m sharing my personal top 3 favorite $20 reds.

  1. Chateau de Saint Cosme Côtes du Rhône: This wine feels more like a best friend. It consistently beats out other Rhône wines I bring home at twice the price. Red fruit, leather, white and black pepper. Truly the southern Rhône in a bottle.

  2. Domaine Bibich Crno Syrah: A Croatian Syrah that packs a unique punch. Closer to a Shiraz with a fruit forward flavor, and yet there an unmistakable presence of wet earth on the palette. Full bodied, with a surprisingly long finish. I truly don’t understand how this comes in at such a low price point.

  3. Cline Ancient Vines Zinfandel: Not generally a big drinker of Zin, or New World reds in general. And yet..AND YET, this wine never disappoints. The jammy fruit is nicely balanced with black pepper, the acid takes over the entire mouth in a plush sensation. In 2019 I went on a wine tour through Sonoma for a friend’s bachelor weekend. I was left unimpressed with most of the wine we tried, but our last stop was Cline, and I ended up bringing a case of this home.

Let me know what some of yours are! I have a real blind spot for Chile and I frequently see them mentioned as the best value reds on the current market.

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Hercule15 · 24 days ago

And unlike the vast majority of Côtes du Rhône reds, the Saint Cosme is 100% Syrah, and has some short term aging potential as well.

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vinojoe · 21 days ago

Saint Cosme CdR is an excellent value.

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JJxiv15 · 25 days ago

Cannot recommend that $15 Cosme CdR enough. Have their Gigondas at home too.

Also going to throw in Foillard Beaujolais-Villages into the mix here.

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gs_ansvarlig · 25 days ago

The Py morgon from foillard is Godly for the price

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newguy741 · 20 days ago

Just had the 2018 Gigondas on Friday night it was in a terrific spot.

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rajamatage · 24 days ago

This this this. Foillard for the win. I actually think it's a bit better than Morgon Cote du Py but would take either bottle any day.

Will check out the Cosme.

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grapemike · 22 days ago

I’ve been getting $13 Joseph Cattin Cremant (just bought the PN but have not tried it), $22 Psi (Ribera del Douro), $16 Cow Catcher from Dumas Station (Walla Walla). All hit so far above their weight class. Better than just background juice…these bring smiles.

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ItsWine101 · 25 days ago

If you like big, bold reds and are looking for value, Spain is tough to beat. Juan Gil from Jumilla is a nice Monastrell with a bit of spice to it, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a Garnacha from the Aragon region that's more than $20 or bad (not to say they don't exist, but retailers have so many examples thrown at them that most do a good job of separating out the chaff).

In Chile, Montes and Lapostolle are the most consistent and broadly available labels. Montes Classic is an entry level range (usually around $12-$15 retail), and both offer an entry plus lineup (Montes Alpha and Lapostolle Grand Selection, $16-$20), all replete with the major varieties, all good bang-for-your-buck.

Hope this helps - cheers!

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vinojoe · 21 days ago

I second Montes, the Alpha range punches above its weight. Montes Alpha Carmenere is a juicy crowd pleaser and a great conversation starter, as few people know the grape and there is a great story of how Chileans used to think it was Merlot.

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noodles-_- · 25 days ago

I second Lapostolle!

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ItsWine101 · 25 days ago

A prime example of what's possible when a winery spends money with a priority on production over packaging (Lapostolle is owned by the family that founded Grand Marnier and owned Chateau de Sancerre for a number of years). That said, the winery is pretty stunning as well!

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ras_hatak · 24 days ago

That Cline has been my go-to for thanksgiving the last few years. Just feels right, since Zin is as American as Apple pie (they don't really grow it anywhere else except all of the genetically identical grapes they grow in Italy Greece and Georgia)

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Best Burgundy wine makers <€75/$100

Posted by Railer87 · in r/wine · 3 months ago

I am lately drinking a lot of bourgogne, noth red and white. Typically I try to stay ariund €30, sometimes I splurge and buy €50 bottle, for some special occasions I buy €100-€200 bottles. I have had hits and misses… now I am sure a DRC or Leflaive will taste great, but what are some of your affordable gems???

So far in my fave list: La creuze Noir, louis carillon & Faiveley

Thank you!

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Opposite-Run-6432 · 3 months ago

I have been buying a lot of Pataille. His Bourgogne Rouge, Marsannay, and Aligote. In the range of what you want to spend. For example, I bought a 6-pk of Rouge for $30/btl and two of his higher end Aligotes for $64/$82. His Marsannay goes for $49/$72. Another producer I like is Sylvain Bzikot. I buy his Cote d’Or and Puligny-Montrachet. Also in your price point $30/$70. (Sorry U.S. prices).

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teddyone · 3 months ago

Ugh I hate that these prices keep going up, great winemaker

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ImpressionVegetable · 3 months ago

Francois Carillon, Joseph Roty, Bachelet Monnot, Pierre Gelin, Lower bottlings of Benjamin Leroux, Dureuil-Janthial, Berthaut-Gerbet, Lower bottlings of Bruno Clair

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Braschy_84 · 3 months ago

Domaine Bachelet over Bachelet Monnot. Personally.

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619earthling · 3 months ago

Henri Prudhon is nice value also

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sir_trav · 3 months ago

Add François Mikulski to the list

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dvs89 · 3 months ago

I can highly recommend Jean-Baptiste Ponsot in Rully. His whites are on par with some of the region's best Meursaults and Montrachets but at a much more affordable price level.

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What's your favorite affordable Bordeaux? (<$25)

Posted by The_Eclectic_Heretic · in r/wine · 4 years ago

Pretty self explanatory, and I'm on a Bordeaux kick at the moment and want to branch out.

Share your picks for right bank, left bank, white, and/or sweet!

Red: Château Clauzet - Saint Estephe White: Le G de Chateau Guiraud

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mattmoy_2000 · 4 years ago

Doisy-Daëne is great (albeit at about that price for a half, although you won't want a full bottle probably). It's next door to Yquem and noticeably similar at a fraction of the price.

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chapster1989 · 4 years ago

Chateau Le Puy

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CondorKhan · 4 years ago

Chateau Baret, Chateau Senejac

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Villa bel air is a great mid week drop.

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WeissBjn · 4 years ago

Chateau Hyot, Château Peybonhomme- les Tours. Both produce exceptional wines, without the price tag you’d expect.

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Cheap red wine recommendations for a friendsgiving

Posted by Rcash2021 · in r/wine · 1 year ago

Hello, I an having a friendsgiving on Saturday and was wondering what cheap red wine recommendations people have. I don’t know anything about wine at all beside that I shouldn’t drink merlot because of the movie “sideways”. I guess I should say the menu: stuffing, rice, mac and cheese, steak, and pork chops. I read a bit online, I’ve heard a cru beaujolais is a good option, I thought that was a brand, I was wrong. I then did more research and I think a “Dominique Piron Morgon Cote du Py” is a good option. I have no idea though, please recommend🙏

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tremain37 · 1 year ago

I don’t think you can go wrong with a Beaujolais from Morgon. It’s exactly the wine I’m bringing to Thanksgiving. But I’ll admit my bias for these wines.

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heatherhobbit · 1 year ago

Bojo is a classic Thanksgiving pairing and appeals to most palates.

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Hour-Salamander-4713 · 1 year ago

Try a South African wine, the Merlots, Pinotages, and Cabernet Sauvignons are very good, and South African wine is very good value. Avoid Shiraz as it can be an acquired taste.

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chadparkhill · 1 year ago

Piron makes very technically sound and varietally correct Beaujolais wines, but I personally think they lack the ‘wow factor’ that makes great Beaujolais so compelling.

I’d recommend any of the following producers: Jean Foillard, Pierre-Marie Chermette, Chateau Thivin, Damien Coquelet, Clos de la Roilette, or Jean-Paul Thevenet (to list a just a few).

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bungocheese · 1 year ago

Foillard is $50 around me now, I was getting it for $30 like 3 years ago.

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pretzelllogician · 1 year ago

Others have sorted you with good recommendations. The merlot thing though. The reason he doesn’t want to drink merlot is because of the memories associated with his ex wife. The bottle of Cheval Blanc he drinks at the end of the movie is a merlot. Merlot is fucking great, get into that shit.

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Dureuil-Janthial: A great producer offering immense value in Burgundy

Posted by Mchangwine · in r/wine · 5 months ago
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Vincent Dureuil-Janthial is one of the most talented winemakers in Burgundy, bar none. Despite the vast majority of his holdings being in the Cote de Chalonnaise, he is making some of the best wines in Burgundy. Most of his vineyards have old vines and have organically farmed since the mid 2000s, and many of the wines are absolutely incredible. I’ve pictured three of his best wines here.

2019 Vincent Dureuil-Janthial Rully En Guesnes

From an excellent village site near some of Rully’s best vineyards, this cuvée has beautiful pure red fruits and cinnamon on the nose, silky texture on the palate with nice acidity and a long finish. Easily mistakeable for a 1er from the Cote de Nuits. The “Cuvée Wadana” takes things up a notch and is one of the best reds made out of the traditional Cote de Nuits along with Didier Fornerol’s Rue de Foins. About $50-60 in the US.

2020 Vincent Dureuil-Janthial Rully 1er Le Meix Cadot

This is an immense wine from “younger vines” on this hallowed site, which still average 50 years in age. The nose is beautiful with purest Meyer lemon, honeysuckle and hay, while the palate has this crazy density and apparent viscosity that one only gets from wines like DRC and Lafon Montrachet along with racy acidity and exuberance. The finish is incredible. About $100-120 in the US.

2020 Vincent Dureuil-Janthial Rully 1er Le Meix Cadot Vielles Vignes

This is from an older wine parcel of the vineyard averaging 100 years in age. This wine has incredible aromatics with more of everything the regular meix cadot had, but not quite as much power and exuberance on the palate. There is incredible texture and elegance. It has more complexity and flavor on both the palate and finish, which lasts longer. Amazing wine. About $250-300 in the US.

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Top_Somewhere9160 · 5 months ago

Excellent write up on the wines, specifically your description of the 2020 Rully. Love this!!

These have got to be some of the best bang for your buck Burgs on the market.

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Mchangwine · OP · 5 months ago

Thanks! I agree, they are amazing!

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gastro_gnome · 5 months ago

🤫

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nycwinelover · 5 months ago

Great producer. Love seeing the wines on the wine lists. Hope the prices stay the same.

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Pzero2020 · 5 months ago

Thanks for the write up and recommendation.

I’m not sure whether I should really thank you because I’m running out of space in my cellar and am now highly tempted to buy even more bottles (and the 2022 en primeurs are arriving soon)

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bularry · 5 months ago

I get the quality but still tough to think of paying $250 for Rully.

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Mchangwine · OP · 5 months ago

I mean, its pretty hard to find anyways.

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bularry · 5 months ago

True

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aabou75 · 3 months ago

They’re much cheaper in France. 33€ for white Rully, for example

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AreU_NotEntertained · 5 months ago

I appreciate you posting some more affordable stuff.  While it's cool to see the high end, I'll never be on that price level.  This is definitely within reach.  

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My local grocery store in the Loire region and it’s hilariously cheap wines.

Posted by otaota · in r/wine · 6 months ago
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I recently moved to Angers in the Loire region and discovered a small grocery store at the end of my street with this wine selection.

Most of the wines are local and very, very cheap. Coming from the U.K, I know to avoid any wine close to this price point but these haven’t been half bad. I just opened a bottle that cost me €6 and it was good.

Though this got me curious, are any of these winemakers at all noteworthy/known?

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WineOptics · 6 months ago

None of the producers really ring a bell to me; I usually drink Arnaud Lambert, Sanzay or Roche Neuves - but genuinely, be it Saumur or Chinon.. You can get really far for very little as you yourself experienced. Glory be to Cab Franc.

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Able-Worldliness8189 · 6 months ago

Kind of the problem and why known wines can fetch so much. You are paying a premium because they are known, they may not be the best but you know what you are getting. These wines can be great, can be terrible there is only one way to find out.

OP get drinking and show us the reviews!

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CesarMalone · 6 months ago

My wife and I would save so much money on wine if we moved to France …

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good-name-forever · 6 months ago

I moved from NYC to Germany this month. It's amazing how far my money goes on everything, but the wine is one of the best parts. I now have access to so many more producers, and most wines that are from small-to-medium wineries are 40-60% cheaper here than in the US. Even something like Altesino Brunello will be 40% cheaper than in NYC.

One more great thing is how shipping of alcohol is cheaper and simpler here. Most stores offer free shipping across Germany, Austria, and Switzerland for purchases over ~100€.

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Able-Worldliness8189 · 6 months ago

Can advice you to make a weekend trip to the Rhine/Mosel. My parents do this once a year and come back with a trunk load of wine every time. They pick up everything from fun stuff to the serious wines, but it's so much cheaper and they have a blast driving from village to village along the rivers.

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ZincPenny · 6 months ago

We charge what we charge in the us to make a living cost of production is way higher, our $30 bottle of wine is like $22 in costs to make it we’re not making much but it pays the bills it’s a break even wine to get people in the door when I see prices like what I see in Europe I can’t fathom it our cork and bottle cost is more than the wines sell for.

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curious_corn · 6 months ago

Well, that’s how “poor Europeans” get along well with their salaries… everything is cheaper 😂

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Nerd_bottom · 6 months ago

I was there in January and ordered two different bottlings of Labet wines at restaurant markup for $80 each.

Those are easily $150 bottles here at a good retail markup.

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TurkeyRunWoods · 6 months ago

The unmitigated cruelty to post this with prices we cannot find but especially wines that never make it to the states.

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munkijunk · 6 months ago

They rarely make it out of France to be fair, or at least in Ireland and the UK where there's a pretty piss poor selection of Loire wines around. Does make visiting there an absolute dream though. Done it 3 times now, and each time we rent bikes and pootle around stopping here and there and constantly getting surprised.

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TurkeyRunWoods · 6 months ago

Scotland and Loire are my two dream vacations. I would love to visit many more but money is an object.

I first tried a wine 30 years ago and it was a mostly dry Chenin blanc. Just a slight touch of sugar on the finish like a good German Riesling. I said to myself, “self, what the heck is this marvelous creature?!” Since then, Loire has been mesmerizing with its various flavors and wines from Muscadet to Sancerre… reds, whites, and Crémants!

What an amazing way to explore by bicycle! Well done! Thanks for sharing.

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Mattie1308 · 6 months ago

Those Bourgueil wines are probably amazing

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Favorite unusually affordable wines

Posted by Sufficient-Ad-1760 · in r/wine · 2 years ago

You know - the producer you turn to when having dinner with your friends who don’t care about wine. I’m into anything Cheveau + love some of the lower tier Jadot bottlings as well

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costanzashairpiece · 2 years ago

Kirkland wines are my daily drinkers. Kirkland Malbec, Kirkland Rioja, Kirkland cote de Rhones villages, Kirkland Sauvignon Blanc. All around $7.

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Freeiheit · 2 years ago

Trader Joe’s has an amazing selection of inexpensive wines. I rarely spend over $15 a bottle there, and always get quality stuff.

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Itscoldinthenorth · 2 years ago

Check out Matua Marlborough Pinot Noir if you're into low priced Jadot. Better body for even less money imo.

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Sapaio · 2 years ago

Weingut Ellermann-Spiegel great value wines from Pfalz. I order them from Germany from site that has many of the best German winzer a lot cheaper than in Denmark if we have them here and also larger range.

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b1ackfyre · 2 years ago

My 5 favorite whites in the $8 - $20 range.

• ⁠Bohigas Cava

• ⁠Hugel Gentil

• ⁠E. Guigal’s CDR Blanc

• ⁠Au Bon Climat Chardonnay

• ⁠Broadbent Vinho Verde

My 20 favorite reds in the $6-$20 range.

Reds - Italy:

• ⁠Masciarelli Montepulciano D’Abruzzo

• ⁠Vietti Barbera d’Asti Tre Vigne

• ⁠Vajra Langhe Rosso

• ⁠Bibi Graetz Casamatta Rosso

• ⁠Banfi Chianti Classico Riserva

• ⁠Nipozzano Chianti Rufina Riserva

Reds - France:

• ⁠Jadot Beaujolais Villages

• ⁠Jadot Bourgogne Pinot Noir

• ⁠Bastide Miraflors

• ⁠E. Guigal Cotes du Rhone Rouge

Reds - Spain:

• ⁠Cune Crianza

• ⁠Marques de Riscal Rioja Riserva

Reds - Portugal:

• ⁠Niepoort Twisted Douro Tinto

Reds - California:

• ⁠Navarro Pinot Noir

• ⁠Au Bon Climat Pinot Noir

• ⁠Bogle Old Vine Zinfandel

• ⁠Juggernaut Cabernet Sauvignon

• ⁠Benziger Cabernet Sauvignon

Reds - Argentina:

• ⁠Alamos Malbec

• ⁠Catena Malbec

Reds - Uruguay

• ⁠Garzon Tannat

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Favorite Wines you can get for $15 (USD) or Less?

Posted by BothCondition7963 · in r/wine · 3 months ago

I was recently inspired to add some bottles to the collection and going through some catalogs I realized how many great bottles there are out there for under $15, and in some cases even $10. I found wines ranging from Bordeaux Supérieur, Muscadet Sèvre et Maine Sur Lie, and Régnié Vieilles Vignes Beaujolais to Malbec from Mendoza and Cahors to Willamette Valley Pinot Noir and Rias Baixas Albariño which all interested me. I can certainly understand when there are more expensive wines for reason of production and demand, but it reminded me how you don't need to break the bank to enjoy wine.

What are your favorite wines, regions, or producers where you can get affordable wines at or under $15 (USD)?

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WineNotThough · 3 months ago

Here are six wines I acquired for less than $15, currently in my cellar, that I would gladly buy again:

Catena Cabernet Sauvignon Mendoza High Mountain Vines

Marques de Riscal Rioja Reserva

Bodegas Juan Gil Monastrell Jumilla Silver Label

Rui Roboredo Madeira Beyra Superior

Faustino Rioja I Gran Reserva

Rolland & Gallareta Rioja Tempranillo

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Embarrassed_Year365 · 3 months ago

Crazy how much value there is to be found in Spain, across all price ranges

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vincekerrazzi · 3 months ago

I keep telling people this, they go Spain is meh, then I have them over and their mind is blown. How much did you pay for this?!

Yeah, Spain is amazing value. 

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Alcophile · 3 months ago

Yes and +1 Juan Gil.

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vincekerrazzi · 3 months ago

I’ll go with my most interesting recent discovery - El Esteco Extremos Torrontes. I’ve not had much in the way of Torrontes, but have been largely impressed by Argentinian wines so gave it a shot. This one was so fragrant and unique - and only 14 dollars. 

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wandering_nerd65 · 3 months ago

Domaine Lafage has some Rhone blends that have great QPR. The Bastide Miraflors is awesome for the price

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Impossible-Gap-467 · 3 months ago

I really like the Tessellae GSM Old Vines. Can get it for $13 USD at my local store

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The_Eclectic_Heretic · 3 months ago

And their Novellum Chardonnay is also damn good for the money

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wandering_nerd65 · 3 months ago

Agreed excellent value. It's rare to fine wine at that price point that represents the varietals well but they manage to pull it off

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Ok-Importance-8104 · 3 months ago

Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc - most of them

Also vinho verde and Albariño

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PossibleClothes1575 · 3 months ago

Vinho Verde & Muscadet

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I have discovered France!

Posted by Prudent_Race_5014 · in r/wine · 3 months ago

After developing a taste for red wine the past few years, I’ve stuck mostly with US and Chilean wines. For some reason I’ve found French wine completely intimidating and have steered clear. The few times I did ask questions or elicit some help, I was met with snobbery or a patronizing tone. I’m the only one in the house who drinks wine, so I keep my budget fairly low for everyday wines. However, I have found a wine shop near me owned by a very nice gentleman/sommelier. On my first visit, I walked out with a Bordeaux for under $15 and a smile on my face. I’ve since been back twice and tried two more wines. I am looking forward to discovering more French wine.🍷 🍇❤️🇫🇷

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teddyone · 3 months ago

In my opinion France makes the best wine in the world and its not particularly close. And there are SOOOOOO many styles to try. It'sactually crazy how diverse the wine is there.

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Ok_Beat9172 · 3 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)

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Flimsy_Elephant_7185 · 3 months ago

A lot can happen in 50 years...

The French has stepped up since 1976 and the US has become ridiculously expensive. You get so much more quality for the money in France compared to the US.

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teddyone · 3 months ago

A couple wines beating a couple other wines in a blind tasting fifty years ago does not mean the US is a better wine country than France.

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Acceptable_Bad5173 · 3 months ago

Please try wine from the Rhône region of France. My absolutely favorite type

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the3rdmichael · 3 months ago

Agreed! Gigondas, Chateauneuf de Pape, Vacqueyras, are my favs.

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HaltGrim · 3 months ago

Having worked in a small independent bottle shop and in high end restaurants. I understand that wines are intimidating and people can be snobs (part of the reason I didn't continue with the court).

But the advice the owner of the shop I worked in gave me holds true. "The best wine is the wine you love. Don't be afraid to open fancy bottles, hoarding them for special occasions is nice, but make opening the bottle an occasion to bring your friends and family together. Finally, drink what you want to drink how you enjoy drinking it."

The world is full of amazing wines, France is one step on a long journey of discovery. US and Chile both have incredible wines.

Enjoy your journey and keep having fun with it. Wine was a food stuff of peasants and kings, there is no reason it should be as guarded as a dragon's hoard.

And not that it matters much, but if you're ever on the hunt for killer white wine at a low cost, picpoul is amazing.

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Prudent_Race_5014 · OP · 3 months ago

I have only just heard of Picpoul last month. It’s on my wish list!!

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FarangWine · 3 months ago

All roads lead to Burgundy!

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grapemike · 3 months ago

You have discovered a great wine shop!!! Enjoy.

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Best budget wines?

Posted by seeminglyrandomqs · in r/wine · 2 years ago

What are some budget wines that are, "wine connoisseur approved"? Obviously I know it's going to be hard to find a good wine on a budget, but for people working with these constraints, what would you suggest? Obviously I will never drink barefoot or Sutter home, though I've been pleasantly surprised with the quality of Cupcake. I prefer reds or bubbly, but I'll try an interesting white. Even better if the red is pilot noir, which, I know, is known as a beginner wine, however I want to incorporate it into my wine rotation for its high antioxidant effects & reversatrol, and prefer to find one that's high enough quality to be a non-compromising go-to wine. I know no wine is "healthy", but I'd rather lean towards 'healthier' wines such as pilot noir and champagne, since champagne is said to be best for memory, and I've experienced it firsthand myself, more than once. I do wonder if all bubblys hold true to this, or just champagne? I know I'd love to try a cremant, and was a fan of prosecco for a while. I recently realized I love dessert wines, and I'm unsure if there are any that won't get me into trouble 🤭

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WhimsyWino · 2 years ago

High QPR wines IMO. Pricing wiñl vary by market but these were all under $25 USD in Pennsylvania iirc. If you want to get into the $10-$20 range then i think someone else mentioned the countries to look at (Spain, Portugal, Argentina, Chile).

Pinot Noir

Casas del Bosque Pinot Noir Reserva 2019

Daylight Wine & Spirits Ammunition Pinot Noir 2020

Diora La Petite Grace Pinot Noir 2018

Fossil Point Pinot Noir 2018

Bogle Pinot Noir 2019

Vinum Cellars Pinot Noir 2018

Kings Ridge Pinot Noir 2019

Sparklings

Roger Goulart Cava Gran Reserva Brut 2015

Gruet Blanc de Noirs

Gruet Blanc de Blancs

Collalbrigo Conegliano-Valdobbiadene Prosecco Superiore Brut

Bagueri Brut

Dessert:

Quinta do Vallado Porto LBV 2017

Dow's Late Bottled Vintage Port 2017

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overproofmonk · 2 years ago

Honestly, $35 is much higher than you need to go to find great wine! (Assuming this is US dollars in US market)

Here's my quick take on price & value:

$15 or under: very few great wines, though they are out there. Spanish & Portuguese reds, and Chile & Argentina are my go-tos at this price point.

$15-20: lots of very good wines.

$20-40: The sweet spot for US wine price-to-value! Some might make it even tighter, like $22-30, but given that pricing can vary so much from one state to the next, I'll stick with $20-40. At any rate, at this price per bottle, you should be able to find extremely high quality wines from just about any grape and region. Exceptions might include: Champagne, Napa, or specific sub-appellations where the wines are simply not going to be priced low (grand cru Burgundy, Brunello, etc).

$40 and above: Above this, you really start to see supply & demand exert its influence on the retail price - which means, as I see it, that the value of the wine goes down. For every bottle of $90-100 Barolo that exists, there are one hundred people who want to buy it - and they're all richer than me, lol, so the price is gonna be what it's gonna be.

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Anyway...I know this maybe is a sideways answer to your question, but I do think it's worth emphasizing that, if you are looking at wines between $20 and $35, they really should all be pretty high quality!

Whether they are a style you personally enjoy, of course, is another thing entirely. And the only way to figure that out is trial and error.

[source: 15 years in the wine industry: production: retail, restaurants, distribution, and education]

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Illustrious_Bed902 · 2 years ago

I’d like to add one other area to look for budget wines in the $15 and under range - GREECE 🇬🇷

There are a number of great reds and whites that over delivery in every price point from Greece but there’s a good number of lower price point wines that are stellar! The issues are that they are grapes which you are likely to have never heard about before and a lot of the bottles are (or can be) difficult to read (because it’s all Greek). But, don’t let that stop you …

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seeminglyrandomqs · OP · 2 years ago

Do you have any specific suggestions for the Spanish and Portuguese, or Chile & Argentina reds? Esp if it's pinot noire, champagne or cremant, and lastly prosecco? I want the majority of my collection to be in the 15 or so range, and I should have specified the cap of 35 I put was for like 2-3 bottles tops, possibly even one would be cutting it. I know this is super specific, but I am trying to cultivate some taste without digging myself in a hole, while allowing myself some treats from time to time (extra treats hahaha)

You seem to be knowledgeable, so im wondering, do you have any advice on possibly an aged wine, or is that going to be totally out of my reach for the budget? I'm wondering if that 20-40 you speak of apples to aged as well, I reckon it might or it might not, because, well, its still wine, but aged wine is going to have more value, so I can see the chart shifting upward in each place

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Secret-Equipment4039 · 2 years ago

Most good Pinot Noir is over $35, but you can find some really good German examples (they’ll be labeled Spatburgunder).

You might also want to try Cru Beaujolais — many fantastic examples (they’ll be labeled things like Morgon, Moulin-a-Vent, or Fleurie) are $20-35. It’s made of Gamay grape, which has a lot of similarities with Pinot Noir, but is a bit simpler and generally less tannic.

If you want to try something much bolder/more tannic but similarly “pretty” on the nose, try some Nebbiolos. Langhe or d’Alba should be within that $20-30 range, and even some Barbarescos can be had under $40 (I recently reviewed a very nice example at $35).

I don’t know that any wines are “healthy” lol but generally speaking, higher quality and lower alcohol & sugar will be healthier than cheap, mass-produced wines with a lot of residual sugar. Cava is a nice entry point into traditional method (same way Champagne is made, but simpler grapes) sparkling wines. You can have decent examples at $10-15 and fantastic ones at $25-35.

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seeminglyrandomqs · OP · 2 years ago

I know this is "old" now, but of the more tannic ones you've mentioned, which one is the least tannic? I've noticed something I really value in a wine is a bit of tannins so that you know you're sipping a wine, but with a nice silky finish, without being overly juicy and CERTAINLY not overly tannic. This may be controversial but ive found skinny girl brand great for this in the past, but I want to go a tad more tannic now to explore more "adult" wines

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Anxious_Attitude2020 · 2 years ago

I'd also add Rioja as a wine that fairly reliably punches above it's weight if you know what you are buying.

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Secret-Equipment4039 · 2 years ago

Agreed. I was going for reds that are closer to Pinot Noir with my recommendations, but I love Rioja.

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harad · 2 years ago

I've had a lot of great, affordable Riojas, but to be honest I don't really know what I'm buying. Any basics, like region, to look out for? I usually just look out for Crianza.

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mattmoy_2000 · 2 years ago

Martin Waßmer's Spatburgunder was recommended to me on here a few weeks ago, a very decent PN from just north of Basel.

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RichtersNeighbour · 2 years ago

This was made for you:

https://redd.it/108dxwo

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mattmoy_2000 · 2 years ago

Just FYI, if you want the alleged health benefits of wine, drink grape juice. Alcohol is really bad for your health. No health researcher would advocate drinking wine for health reasons - although I would imagine that a fair few would say that moderate to low consumption would not be measurably harmful (i.e. staying within government guidelines: in the UK this means no more than 140ml of ethanol per week, no more than 30ml on a single day, no back to back drinking days and several days sober per week. This is probably lower than what you might consider "moderate", if you're like most Brits).

Having said that, I recently had a delicious Rully from Majestic which was less than £20 when I bought it, so if you want tasty reasonably priced red Burgundy (i.e. Pinot Noir), this is a decent shout.

Edit: Pinot Noir is not a "beginner's wine", it's the grape that makes the most sought after, ethereal and beautiful wines in the world, which you could trade a case of for a house in some cases.

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best budget-friendly french wines

Key Considerations for Budget-Friendly French Wines:

  1. Regions to Explore:

    • Languedoc-Roussillon: Known for producing high-quality wines at lower prices. Look for blends or varietals like Grenache and Syrah.
    • Loire Valley: Offers excellent value, especially for Sauvignon Blanc and Chenin Blanc.
    • Beaujolais: Famous for its light and fruity Gamay wines, particularly Beaujolais Nouveau and Beaujolais Villages.
  2. Wine Types:

    • Red Wines: Look for Côtes du Rhône or Bordeaux blends, which often provide great value.
    • White Wines: Consider Sauvignon Blanc from the Loire Valley or Chardonnay from the Languedoc for affordable options.
    • Rosé Wines: Provençal rosés are popular and often reasonably priced.
  3. Vintage: Sometimes, lesser-known vintages can offer great quality at a lower price. Look for wines from good producers in less celebrated years.

  4. Buying Tips:

    • Local Wine Shops: They often have knowledgeable staff who can recommend budget-friendly options.
    • Online Retailers: Websites specializing in wine can offer competitive prices and discounts.

Recommendations:

  • Les Jamelles Cabernet Sauvignon (Languedoc): A well-balanced red with rich fruit flavors, typically priced around $10-15.
  • Domaine de la Perrière Sauvignon Blanc (Loire Valley): Crisp and refreshing, often available for about $10-12.
  • Château de Campuget Rosé (Costières de Nîmes): A delightful rosé that’s usually around $10, perfect for summer sipping.

These selections provide great quality without breaking the bank, making them excellent choices for budget-conscious wine lovers.

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