Exploring French Wine Regions
France is renowned for its diverse wine regions, each offering unique flavors and styles. Some of the most recommended regions include Bordeaux, Burgundy, and the Rhône Valley. Bordeaux wines are often praised for their complexity and depth, while Burgundy is known for its elegant Pinot Noir and Chardonnay [1:3]
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Affordable and Value Wines
For those on a budget, there are plenty of excellent French wines available without breaking the bank. Vincent Dureuil-Janthial from Burgundy is highlighted as a producer offering great value, with wines like the Rully En Guesnes providing exceptional quality at a reasonable price [3:2]. Additionally, Muscadet wines from the Loire Valley offer a refreshing and mineral-driven experience, perfect for pairing with seafood
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Unique and Lesser-Known Varietals
Trying lesser-known varietals can be an exciting way to explore French wines. Picpoul, a white grape variety from the Languedoc region, is noted for its crisp acidity and citrus notes [1:7]. Another interesting option is the Melon de Bourgogne grape used in Muscadet, which provides a high-acid, dry, and minerally profile
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Wine Experiences in Paris
If visiting Paris, indulging in local wine experiences can enhance your appreciation. Loire Cab Franc is a popular choice among Parisians, often served chilled during summer [4:1]
[4:2]. For a memorable wine bar experience, Le Baron Rouge offers a wide selection of wines by the glass, allowing you to sample various French regions
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Recommendations Beyond the Discussions
For those interested in exploring further, consider trying wines from the Alsace region, known for its aromatic whites like Riesling and Gewürztraminer. Additionally, Bandol in Provence produces excellent Mourvèdre-based wines that are worth seeking out [2:3].
After developing a taste for red wine the past few years, I’ve stuck mostly with US and Chilean wines. For some reason I’ve found French wine completely intimidating and have steered clear. The few times I did ask questions or elicit some help, I was met with snobbery or a patronizing tone. I’m the only one in the house who drinks wine, so I keep my budget fairly low for everyday wines. However, I have found a wine shop near me owned by a very nice gentleman/sommelier. On my first visit, I walked out with a Bordeaux for under $15 and a smile on my face. I’ve since been back twice and tried two more wines. I am looking forward to discovering more French wine.🍷 🍇❤️🇫🇷
Having worked in a small independent bottle shop and in high end restaurants. I understand that wines are intimidating and people can be snobs (part of the reason I didn't continue with the court).
But the advice the owner of the shop I worked in gave me holds true. "The best wine is the wine you love. Don't be afraid to open fancy bottles, hoarding them for special occasions is nice, but make opening the bottle an occasion to bring your friends and family together. Finally, drink what you want to drink how you enjoy drinking it."
The world is full of amazing wines, France is one step on a long journey of discovery. US and Chile both have incredible wines.
Enjoy your journey and keep having fun with it. Wine was a food stuff of peasants and kings, there is no reason it should be as guarded as a dragon's hoard.
And not that it matters much, but if you're ever on the hunt for killer white wine at a low cost, picpoul is amazing.
I have only just heard of Picpoul last month. It’s on my wish list!!
Please try wine from the Rhône region of France. My absolutely favorite type
Agreed! Gigondas, Chateauneuf de Pape, Vacqueyras, are my favs.
In my opinion France makes the best wine in the world and its not particularly close. And there are SOOOOOO many styles to try. It'sactually crazy how diverse the wine is there.
A couple wines beating a couple other wines in a blind tasting fifty years ago does not mean the US is a better wine country than France.
A lot can happen in 50 years...
The French has stepped up since 1976 and the US has become ridiculously expensive. You get so much more quality for the money in France compared to the US.
All roads lead to Burgundy!
You have discovered a great wine shop!!! Enjoy.
If you’re looking for “best French wines”, a Google search could do you pretty well. Wine searcher is your friend. Also, if you’re looking to invest, check the LivEx numbers as the website is geared towards showing the best investment wines. This question is pretty impossible to answer on a forum like this. Price range, grape variety, region? I’ve had great $10,000 bottles and great $20 bottles.
What are the best $10k bottles and $20 ones you’ve ever had?
Une bouteille de Nuits, millésime mille neuf cent quarante-sept, fait par le Société Vinicole à Beaune et gardé dans une vielle cave néerlandaise. Le vin avait un goût de fer, chêne, et sang frais. IL m'a couté seize livres Brittanique.
Not really well known : Villa Minna vineyard 2009 and clos des Calades 2011, domaine de la begude la Brulade 2015
Thanks. What makes it particular?
All from the South of France, over ripped, lush and firm tannins. That's what I like. Minna vineyard has some Cabernet and syrah which I love when they are blended graciously. I am also a big fan of GSM blends and the clos des calades was just different to what we can get in the Rhône valley. In a way that I will always remember. Finally la Begude is just a pure expression of high altitude mourvèdre from Bandol. As always it's not just the characteristics of the wine but also the moment you drink and the peoples you share it with !
The best French white was Chateau Bizard, Blanc De Charme (served with veal in a cream sauce). The winery is in Grignan-les-Adhémar. Sadly, it's impossible to get in the US.
What makes it so special?
Do you want to narrow that down somewhat? That list would be rather lengthy, especially if it’s just “heard of.” Do you know how many wines people have heard of?!?!?!?
I may be am weird, but I can’t rank them like that. I can’t say “this Bordeaux was better than that Burgundy,” or things like that. Easch stands on its own. So I’m afriad any list will be rather lengthy. I apologize in advance.
Great French Wines I have TASTED (presented in chronological order by region, and limited to no more than 10 per category):
(OK, I’ll stop now…but as I have always said, I have been very, very lucky….)
Oh my! That’s so valuable. Thanks very much. Vous êtes définitivement un connaisseur.
Merci mais non. Je ne suis en aucun cas un connaisseur. J'ai eu (et je suis) très chanceux. Je me suis lancé dans le commerce du vin au bon moment, lorsqu'il était assez facile de trouver des millésimes plus anciens de ceci ou de cela, et des gens disposés à les ouvrir et à les partager avec moi.
Is there a particular region that you would like to focus on?
Vincent Dureuil-Janthial is one of the most talented winemakers in Burgundy, bar none. Despite the vast majority of his holdings being in the Cote de Chalonnaise, he is making some of the best wines in Burgundy. Most of his vineyards have old vines and have organically farmed since the mid 2000s, and many of the wines are absolutely incredible. I’ve pictured three of his best wines here.
2019 Vincent Dureuil-Janthial Rully En Guesnes
From an excellent village site near some of Rully’s best vineyards, this cuvée has beautiful pure red fruits and cinnamon on the nose, silky texture on the palate with nice acidity and a long finish. Easily mistakeable for a 1er from the Cote de Nuits. The “Cuvée Wadana” takes things up a notch and is one of the best reds made out of the traditional Cote de Nuits along with Didier Fornerol’s Rue de Foins. About $50-60 in the US.
2020 Vincent Dureuil-Janthial Rully 1er Le Meix Cadot
This is an immense wine from “younger vines” on this hallowed site, which still average 50 years in age. The nose is beautiful with purest Meyer lemon, honeysuckle and hay, while the palate has this crazy density and apparent viscosity that one only gets from wines like DRC and Lafon Montrachet along with racy acidity and exuberance. The finish is incredible. About $100-120 in the US.
2020 Vincent Dureuil-Janthial Rully 1er Le Meix Cadot Vielles Vignes
This is from an older wine parcel of the vineyard averaging 100 years in age. This wine has incredible aromatics with more of everything the regular meix cadot had, but not quite as much power and exuberance on the palate. There is incredible texture and elegance. It has more complexity and flavor on both the palate and finish, which lasts longer. Amazing wine. About $250-300 in the US.
Excellent write up on the wines, specifically your description of the 2020 Rully. Love this!!
These have got to be some of the best bang for your buck Burgs on the market.
Thanks! I agree, they are amazing!
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Great producer. Love seeing the wines on the wine lists. Hope the prices stay the same.
Thanks for the write up and recommendation.
I’m not sure whether I should really thank you because I’m running out of space in my cellar and am now highly tempted to buy even more bottles (and the 2022 en primeurs are arriving soon)
I get the quality but still tough to think of paying $250 for Rully.
I mean, its pretty hard to find anyways.
True
They’re much cheaper in France. 33€ for white Rully, for example
I appreciate you posting some more affordable stuff. While it's cool to see the high end, I'll never be on that price level. This is definitely within reach.
I'm headed to Paris next week and really looking forward to drinking some French wines in France. I'd love any recommendations that are either going to be exclusive to the area or any must try. I'm totally open to the varietal.
I always drink a lot of Loire Cab Franc when in Paris. Readily available and delicious. Catherine and Pierre Breton Bourgueil or Chinon I had in a few places and it’s terrific.
This. It's a Parisian favorite in the summer. Totally normal to serve a Loire red chilled.
If you can, try to find a white Chateauneuf-de-Pape! I just tried them for the first time while in the region and really enjoyed them. Fresh, well-balanced acidity and good body, they just unfortunately are hard to find as it’s such a small portion of production
Just picked up a white cdp at Costco of all places. Look forward to trying!
Le Baron Rouge is a fantastic wine bar. Lots of locals and regulars, great simple charcuterie, oysters depending on the day, and loads of interesting wines (both local to northern France and from throughout France). The BTG wines are in relatively small pours (maybe 3 oz) and pretty cheap, so you can try a bunch.
Came to say this. Le Baron Rouge is awesome. Highly recommended.
If you Raveneau you neau…
Oh man, I drank a bottle of Raveneau Valmur on the patio at Le Dome a few years ago and it’s easily one of the best experiences of my life. I rep Kermit Lynch so I have a fair amount of experience with those wines but sitting there, at that table, with that wine, was otherworldly.
That’s awesome! Raveneau is definitely my personal favorite in Kermit Lynch portfolio. I can only imagine how much people fight over that allocation. 😉 It’s too bad how nuts the secondary market has gone, but luckily you can still find them for a reasonable price at restaurants in France. I was in Paris a few weeks ago and was lucky enough to have a 2008 Vaillons with Oysters. It was an otherworldly pairing.
Go to Les Climats for lunch, it’s €62/person, order a glass of Champagne and a bottle of Raveneau for €150 and enjoy.
Caves de Taillevent is a great wine store with extremely helpful staff, after you spend some time at wine bars and discover a couple regions you enjoy, head there, ask what they’ve got that’s interesting from that region and bring them home and enjoy them!
Chateau du Juanay Muscadet Sevre - 2023
Im new to wine and this is my first taste of the melon de bourgogne grape and its expression as a muscadet wine.
Notes: Heavy, like a lager, instant strong salinity on the front, fading into tart apple, pear, yeasty and bisquity, and ending with the most minerality I've ever tasted in wine. Impressive minerality. I actually thought it was a bit much until paired goat cheese and melon.
Not shy on flavor. Im reading that the intense weight and yeasty, beer like quality is from the sur lie process. Quite an experience.
I don't see Muscadet enough where I live. Even most oyster bars in my area don't carry one.
Definitely under appreciated and honestly had not thought about it in a while.
The salt when it first hits your tongue and ending with a bite of serious minerality was absolutely wild and exciting. Really fun bottle. Not my favorite maybe but very interesting
If you get a chance pair it with some shrimp scampi or some shellfish of your choice. It’s a super traditional pairing to enjoy this with a buttery seafood dish because of how nice the acidity works agains the butter!
How so?
Your notes read to me like a textbook sur lie muscadet of high quality. I've never described the nose as heavy, but yeasty and prominent salinity are to be expected.
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working through a couple cases of la pepie briords currently! is nice
Love it
"Muscadet has a characteristic high-acid, dry, and refreshing texture, often with a subtle "glittery" or zesty quality due to a slight spritz. Aging "sur lie" (on dead yeast cells) develops a richer, creamier, and more complex texture with yeasty and biscuity notes, similar to a lager. Higher-quality Muscadet wines show more pronounced tangy saltiness, flinty minerality, and a smooth, complex mouthfeel."
Title speaks for itself. I am especially interested to hear about wines you feel punch above their price point. I am based in Europe.
The best wines I have ever tried. Let me know if you have tried any of these!
Best wines would be
1996 Rousseau Chambertin 2002 D’Auvenay Criots-Batard-Montrachet 1959 Chateau Margaux
Value play is any super cheap, high acid, coastal white wine. Vinho Verde is often in that camp. Muscadet. Txakolina. Rias Baixas Albariño used to be, but prices have risen quite a bit over the last 15-20 years.
1971 Egon Muller Auslese
Falkenstein Gisela or one of their 3 Euchariusberg Spatleses (Palm, Meyer Nepal, Onkel Peter)
My guy Rieslings
Best value has to be tokaji
yes! criminally underrated, especially when you compare price and quality to sauternes.
Best: Clos du Val's inaugural `72 cab, which was one of the things they were pouring at their 50th anniversary celebration. That was The Wine that flipped the switch in my head.
Value: Catena's malbec.
Impossible to pick just one best wine tasted, but a freshly disgorged magnum Salon 1945 straight from the producer's cellar is up there. An Yquem 1921 is also among my best ever bottles along with a Latour 1961.
Ask me tomorrow, and I will probably have changed my mind.
Best value?
Sherry, Mosel/Nahe prädikat and Loire Cabernet Franc.
Hello all!
As title says doing a trip to France for about 2 weeks. I’ll be in French Riviera for 6 days, then Strasbourg area for 2 days then Paris for 4 days.
Just curious if anyone could recommend some potential must buys over there in those places that I couldn’t find at Total Wine? I like mostly everything but Chardonnays, Pinot Grigio’s & Sauvignon Blancs.
Also any recommendations on restaurants or whatever you’ve got would be helpful. Thanks!
When you say you don't like Chardonnay or Sauvignon Blanc, have you ever had white Burgundy or sauv blanc from the Loire? If not, I'd encourage you to try Chablis and Sancerre.
I haven’t. I’ve had gewurztraminer which I’ve liked as well as Riesling which is okay. Don’t mind a good rosé either.
You might really enjoy Pinot Gris from Alsace. It's Pinot Grigio, btw, but it gets a rich, scented, pear and floral business going over there.
Try everything and drink what tastes good to you. If you find something that you want to buy a bottle of, use wine-searcher.com to see if it's sold anywhere in the US, and also how much it is.
Strassburg should let you have access to some great Alsace. My favorites, is Zind Humbrect, Domaine Ostertage, Albert Boxler, Dorf & Irion and Bott-Gyel.
In general, No.
i used to, and sometimes bring a couple of bottles of funky wines (natural/low intervention wines) from where I go; but rarely from more known producers.
Unless you know a producer or wine style that you absolutely cannot get where you are from.
If in Strasbourg, I'd try to fin the best wine shop and get as old a riesling you can financially get.
For rosé, look for Domaine du Gros Noré. (unless you can get it at home cheaper)
Taste a whole bunch of them. Bring back the ones that you like.
Look for a kick ass bottle (or three) of Alsace Riesling. There should be plenty available in Strasbourg. I know two days isn’t a ton of time, but about 20 minutes south of Strasbourg the little Alsatian villages are adorable and 1000% worth a visit if you can get there. Also LOTS of wine tasting/buying opportunities.
And I also always recommend bringing home vintage champagne from small producers. You’ll get a kick ass deal on a bottle you’d either pay out the nose for in the states, or straight up not be able to get.
WOTN was without question - D’Auvenay Auxey Duresses La Macabre 2018 - intoxicating nose - concentrated palate yet lifted. Served after Coche Dury Les Perrieres 2009, which was great but the D’auvenay is the cynosure.
Interesting Clos de la Roche comparison between Domaine Leroy 1992 and Jacky Truchot 2004. The Leroy carried a rustic edge — earthy, forest and spice. The Truchot, in contrast, is a little more generous and lifted.
Mini vertical of DRC RSV— 2003, 2011, and 2021. Each showed its character: the 2003 marked by ripeness and density, the 2021 showed youthful energy and ample acidity, the 2011 is probably the most classic of the 3 with good balance, and imo the most expressive of the 3.
All the DRC Rouges were great but the La Tache 2010 stood out. Seamless power with grace. Stemmy rose petal, tea, red and black fruits, sweet spices. Concentrated with long finish.
🍷🥂🍾Line Up -Cedric Bouchard Roses de Jeanne Les Ursules UR/R19 -D’Auvenay Auxey-Duresses La Macabrée -Coche Dury Meursault 1er Cru Les Perrières 2009 -Domaine Leroy Clos de La Roche 1992 -Jacky Truchot Clos de la Roche 2004
-Domaine de la Romanee Conti Corton Charlemagne 2019 Romanee Saint Vivant 2003 Romanee Saint Vivant 2011 Romanee Saint Vivant 2021 Richebourg 2006 Echezeaux 2018 La Tache 2010
-Dujac Charmes Chambertin 2009 -Beau Paysage Tsugane Chardonnay 2022
Will prob be more active on insta now on @geo_fong 🙏
After you’ve had DRC you realize it’s very good wine; but at the end of the day, you also realize it’s nothing but a status symbol at this point and there are equally good wines out there at far more affordable price points. Tasting notes on this stuff is cool but it’d rather discover something just as good for 1/100th the price.
I would love to know some of your value recs that compare to DRC, I’ve been going on a yearlong value quest and have never had the chance to try the obscenely expensive stuff.
This is a question for the OP (if he even drinks anything under 1K a bottle); he and another on here only seem interested in these flex posts though.
One recommendation: if you’re into Coche-Dury, Meursault (or want to be) but don’t want to shell out the 2k+ it’ll cost for a bottle, you might try the Chardonnay from Chacra, Patagonia, Argentina or a Chardonnay from Morgen Long, Willamette Valley, Oregon. Both winemakers have the pedigree and both are making very affordable, yet, exceptional wines that are approaching the taste and quality of Coche-Dury.
Tried a few of them, box ticked, 1000% agree. Awesome wines (obviously), but no where near worth their pricepoint (obviously).
Was scrolling...scrolling....scrolling....saw DRC et al and rolled my eyes thinking it's just going to be bottle porn without any tasting notes or real substance to the post...open the post...realize I'm wrong and probably a jerk...
Damn, great sounding evening you had. When you have this much burgundy to choose from, do you ever just want a Malbec or something?
Well they "only drink value wines" lmfao
tbh, as cool as it would be to have this experience at least once in my life, I actually get more enjoyment from just exploring the world of wine, like maybe I'd grow bored of being able to drink this lineup whenever I wanted. There's something to be said about finding that random $11 picpoul that just fits the moment perfectly.
Maybe not malbec. But i do like Jura which is more accessible than burgundy. Although Jura prices and demand are creeping up.
I'm convinced there's like two dozen guys drinking all the Burgundy on Earth, exclusively in giant tastings with one another.
For some of the smaller producers this is accurate
I would've attended mass if they were serving this at communion.
Just casually dropping a pic of a hew hundred thousand dollars worth of wine on a table on a random Thursday...
That’s a very open question. I think the main variation on what you may be recommend is, what price range you are looking at?
0 - 20 Euro :)
Honestly, just find local good wine stores and get wines recommended based on your flavour profile or just tell the person you want to have a variation if in that price range.
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