TL;DR
Core Pyro Team Members
Bennett is consistently recommended across discussions as a crucial member of any pyro team. His ability to heal and boost attack makes him indispensable [1:2]
[3:6]. For players with Bennett at C6, he becomes even more powerful in an over-vape team alongside characters like Xingqiu and Kuki
[1:3].
Elemental Reaction Support
For maximizing damage through elemental reactions, characters like Xingqiu and Rosaria are frequently mentioned. Xingqiu provides excellent hydro application for vaporize reactions, while Rosaria offers cryo application for melt reactions [1:1]
[4:1]. Lynette is also noted for her effective cryo application, making her a solid choice for melt teams
[1:1].
Additional Pyro Applicators
Thoma and Xiangling are valuable additions to a pyro team for their consistent pyro application. Thoma's shield and off-field pyro capabilities make him a versatile choice [3:4], while Xiangling's strong pyro presence can significantly enhance the team's overall damage output
[5:4].
Alternative Team Compositions
Several users have suggested alternative team compositions that include Pyro MC (Pyro Traveler) as a viable option, especially when paired with other supportive characters like Yaoyao or Nahida [5:1]
[5:2]. Kinich was mentioned as a potential main DPS character, with Pyro MC providing resonance and additional damage bonuses
[5:1].
Considerations Beyond the Discussions
While these discussions provide insights into popular team compositions, it's important to consider your own character roster and playstyle preferences. Experimenting with different combinations can help you find the most enjoyable and effective setup for your pyro team. Additionally, keep an eye on upcoming banners and events for new character releases that might complement your existing team.
Any idea on how to make a team for him as dps? these are my characters, and I wish to just use them, currently saving primo for someone else. Thank you in advance, and the more discussion the better.
Your best teams I'd say would be pyro mc, Rosario, Bennet, xingqiu/zhongli
I see, that's great, I've already built them
I personally prefer an over vape team, especially if Bennett is C6, with Xingqiu and Kuki
my bennett is C6, woah, never tried that one, but sounds fun. another unit is up to me or is there a suggestion?
I havent seen anyone suggest this, but my go-to would be Rosaria and Lynette and Bennett. Lynnette is actually really good at applying elements like cryo, and makes a full melt team possible, plus she gives a nice buff to atk with her passive. Her ult is also a taunt so not having a shield isn't that bad, and if you put Bennett circle and Rosaria ult on top of it, circle impact becomes a little less difficult to deal with because enemies will be drawn to it.
woah, I've been meaning to build lynette, is she good at C0? as a support of course
She is, you just need a ton of ER until c4 (like 240% I think)
what about lan yan, I think she gives a shield too
Maybe, but i don't know how well she would be able to spread cryo. I know Lynette does so very well.
level 1 hu tao ? 😦
😂 I don't remember how I got her, I think I was trying to get a 4 star from her banner, can't remember which
Use a cryo unit and Bennett, for the last unit go for whatever you like.
Hello. I am still pretty new to Genshin and I am heavily considering using my guarantee to pull Kinich, to have 2 viable teams.
My current main team is Navia/Xiangling/Bennet/Xilonen
That means a lot of my pyro applicators are used already. Would something like Kinich/PyroMC/Thoma/Iansan be a good team? Or anything else you can recommend? Or is it just better to wait for Mavuika/other banners?
Yeah that should be fine, or change one of the pyros to ororon
Yes mavuika is stronger but u should go for who u like more
Your second team will do just fine, Mavuika's will eventually be an upgrade from PyroMC, but you mostly want a second Pyro to have resonance, eventually if you can give him Bennett instead he'll be very strong.
I am planning to get kinich on his re run and because I have guarantee I think I am good to start preparing
I am really confused with teams with him I have nahida to go with him but no idea about pyro characters I saw Thoma can be good and I don't know if pyro mc is worth investing into or someone else
Nahida would only be good in burgeons team, apparently, her E doesnt proc in burn. Kinich-yelan/xinqiu-nahida-thomas would work good. Burgeons charge the canon, while doing some damages and procing nahida's e, the issue is it is benettless team i never played that i am not sure if kinich's Pa would really be high in that one.
In general, kinich's best team are kinich-mav(scroll)-rina(deepwood)-benet or kinich-emilie(reverie)-mav(deepwood)-benet you can try to simulate those teams with other characters.
I don't have emilie and i profondly hate burgeons so my present teams are kinich-mavuika(obsidian)-pmc(deepwood)-bennet or another one that manages to hit really hard (300k+ c0r1) kinich-yaoyao(deepwood)-iansan(c0 scroll)-bennett. I actually would expect a version of that team with c2 iansan and emilie to be kinich bis but you don't have a pyro applicator, so for now, i am not sure of how problematic it is.
So for me I should try having something like
Kinich Yao yao (deep wood) pyro mc(scroll) and either hydro or pyro?
Pmc application is trash 😔 i never tried it but imagining playing it in burgeons sound like hell, but it is something worth testing. If it is faster than 3secs, kinich-nahida/yaoyao-pmc-hydro should be doable. If it is higher than 3s, i don't think waiting for the canon shots would be fun.
Yaoyao-pmc-bennet sounds good on paper but you actually can't refresh scroll so yaoyao loses all her value (anyone could hold deepwood). For scroll's buff to trigger, the artifact holder must trigger the reaction so, the way burning works, as long as the burn is present, you can't refresh the reaction with pmc and you would need to trigger a reaction to consume the burn, reapply dendro again and reapply pyro to trigger scroll.
A solution to that issue would be to use iansan instead of bennett. Her electro application would refresh the burn so you could have her scroll to directly trigger the buff.
If you don't have iansan (damn you, 4*), i guess going for simpler kinch's team would be good. Kinich-bennet-xiangling-(deepwood holder). Triggering scroll becomes too complicated so it gets better to just leave it aside.
Hes probably the only dendro that can do comparably well without nahida; EM buffing is her main focus, which Kinich doesn’t care about. He doesn’t care about a second dendro at all actually, just somebody wearing deepwood.
Bennet and Pyro MC are probably his best 4* teammates, with PMC on scrolls set and a hydro in the last spot. Personally, I really like deepwood Kokomi if you have her, but any off-field hydro can work. PMC can’t proc scrolls buff consistently without the hydro flex.
Even Benny can carry deepwood if you absolutely must, but the rotation feels bad. Id rather run it on XQ or even Barbara, but Kinich is on Codex and PMC is on scrolls, always.
Thoma can replace Bennett, he still wears deepwood and Kinich loses some damage for sure but it makes circle impact a little more tolerable and also gives the shield if you felt like you needed it.
Controversial take, but pure burning with Kinich is really only good with Emilie, and thats because she can let you ditch scrolls set entirely and make up for the dps loss. Otherwise, your damage will drop off dramatically after the first rotation once you lose your scrolls buff.
TL;DR the team should be Kinich on Codex/Pyro MC on scrolls/Bennet/Hydro flex OR Emilie, with one or the other wearing deepwood and whatever on the other (probably Noblesse or Tenacity though)
Unfortunately his teams aren’t the most flexible imo, on the bright side hes personally one of the easier characters to build, but his team is rigid. Fortunately its mostly 4*s and the traveler, but you can swap them out for more premium units like Emilie or Furina down the road while Benny XQ and PMC will work just fine while you wait for em.
Kinich pyro mc Thoma xinqiou?
I know I won't be able to stay in Bennett burst I am barely staying in it with someone like lyney so I don't think he will be good for me with kinich
Yeah, that works, just a little less damage and a shield instead of heals. The DPS loss is definitely noticeable, but with enough investment in your other builds you can get around it.
Heres a fun tip you should definitely note though; The buffs from Bennets burst aren’t actually strictly inside the circle, they actually last for 1s after stepping out of the circle. Doesn’t sound like a lot, but for Kinich he can actually swing fast enough to leave the circle and re-enter it before ever losing his buff. Give it some testing, you will notice Kinich’s range is about the same size as Bennys circle.
Especially against immovable/stunned bosses, they line up pretty well.
FWIW, this is coming from a day one through-and-through Bennet hater, this is the only team I even still run Ben in anymore because its the only one that feels okay. Line their skills up correctly and you actually won’t have to worry about the circle at all
Good F2P friendly team:
Kinich (Codex) - Yaoyao (Deepwood/Tenacity) - Thoma (Nobless/2pc Emblem 2pc Cinders or HP) - Iansan (Cinders)
Either Yaoyao or Thoma should hold Deepwood. This is mostly up to your Thoma's ER. If you want him to focus on ER/HP, then Yaoyao can hold Deepwood to enable him to hold 2pc sets of ER/Cinders/HP. As Yaoyao's heals are fine, I would min-max and have Thoma hold Deepwood and Yaoyao on Tenacity.
If you get Emilie, it'd be Emilie on Reverie instead of Yaoyao, and Thoma would hold Deepwood.
My team is Kinich, PMC, Thoma(flex) and Benny. The Pyro shield + Benny ring for survival. PMC for debuff + Pyro app
I want to make her the star of my team as a main dps but I can’t find a team comp that I have all the characters for. Here is a list of all my non-Lumine characters and their constellations:
Amber c2
Kaeya c0
Lisa c1
Barbara c2
Razor c0
Xiangling c4
Xingqiu c3
Fischl c0
Bennett c5
Noelle c3
Chongyun c6
Sucrose c2
Qiqi c0
Mona c0
Venti c0
Diona c4
Xinyan c2
Xiao c0
Rosaria c0
Yanfei c4
Sayu c0
Kujou Sara c3
Thoma c3
Gorou1
Yelan c0
Kuki Shinobu c1
Shikanoin Heizou c1
Collei c0
Tighnari c1
Dori c4
Candace c0
Layla c1
Faruzan c0
Yaoyao c2
Dehya c0
Mika c2
Kirara c0
Lynette c0
Freminet c1
Charlotte c2
Furina c0
Chevreuse c1
Gaming c1
Arlecchino c0
Kachina c4
Kinich c0
Mavuika c0
Lan Yan c1
Thank you in advance
You could run Bennett, Furina, Xingqui. But that works better with c6 Bennett.
You could also run with Chevy, Bennett, and Fischl
Thanks!
My current best team for him is Kinich - Yaoyao - Dehya/Thoma - Benny. I can use Nahida over Yaoyao, but Nahida is staying with my Spreadhaitham. I don't have Furina and Emilie, nor do I plan on pulling for either of them or any of the 5.x limited waifus.
I haven't had the motivation to finish the Natlan AQs and claim Pyro MC, but I don't mind doing so if Pyro MC is a significant upgrade for Kinich. I'm also thinking if I can run an all-male team with Kinich - Pyro Aether - Thoma - Benny.
xiangling would be better here and by a lot.
Well for kinich pyromc is straight up better unless ur using some1 like xingqiu who wants high pyro app
Even w XQ, Thoma would be better to trigger Burgeons instead of vapes and actually help Kinich during his E.
Posting misinformation for fun 🥀
yaoyao pyro mc bennet is prob your best team. pyro mc gives pyro resonance and a dmg bonus from one of his cons and scroll set and some off field dmg if you build him
I've been trying to make a team based around Kinich and the Burning reaction. I seem to have figured out what characters generally go well with him, but am still struggling which ones exactly to use.
I have Xiangling and Mauvika, but don't have Emilie or Bennett. I have Yanfei, but only at C0. I'm wondering whether it's better to:
Thanks in advance for any help!
Since burning damages you, if you are close to the enemy, a shielder like Thoma, Xinyan or kirara is useful and can wear deepwood.
Bennet is in the paimon shop every 6 months.
Yea, I'm definitely going to get Bennet when he comes back in May lol. In the meantime, do you think I'll be able to survive with Yaoyao's healing if I use Kinich, Mavuika, Xiangling (to be replaced with Bennet once I get him, since I don't want to build another character if I'm going to replace them), and Yaoyao? Would Bennet's burst help once I get him?
My roster notably lacks shielding characters, I'd have to either go for something like Diona or use Burgeon instead and take Xingqiu away from my other (main) team specifically for Spiral Abyss, neither of which is preferable since he does quite well for himself there. I have decent dodging/combat micro abilities, though (the main reason why I don't have shielding characters - I never needed them before using Kinich).
(this is something translated in case there are translation errors) The Dendro traveler is not useful with Kinich, because his ulti, which is what he applies, would be exploited. In any case, I don't know if you have Thomas or a Xinyan for a defensive contribution. Finally, you could have a team of I suppose Kinich,mavuika,thoma/xinyan And here, whatever you like, whether it's another dendro or some damage contribution, is what I think could help you, good luck ^^
Ah ok. I have Nahida and Collei and could use them instead if that works. I don't have a Thoma or Xinyan though (the only Pyro characters I haven't mentioned are Amber, Chevreuse, and Diluc, and the only Dendro character I haven't mentioned is Yaoyao). That's why I was mainly weighing Xiangling + Mavuika vs Xiangling + Yanfei lol
(edit: and the only two Anemo characters I haven't mentioned are Lynette and Faruzan, so I don't have a Kazuha)
Nahida doesn't work either because continuous burning is considered the same reaction, so she can't trigger trikarma purification, meaning you can get neither damage nor 4p deepwood out of her.
Outside of Émilie, your only viable dendro options are Yao² or Collei (c4 kirara doesn't work either because of the coordinated attacks trigger condition).
You need a defensive option, burning (or even burgeon) deals self damage.
Would you play burgeon ? No Bennett is rough and burning doesn't add much damage. Something like Xingqiu/Yaoyao/Mavuika would work I guess. Also Mavuika can trigger Scroll easily in that team.
Wait burning deals self-damage? Now I know why I keep dying in spiral abyss :( (and the more I upgrade Kinich I die faster)
I could play Burgeon / have all the characters you mentioned. I’ll try it at least. (It’ll take till May for me to get Bennett because that’s when he reruns in the starglitter shop, and I couldn’t get him on his last banner)
I would go kinich, bennet with 4pc noblesse oblige, mavuika with cinder city and yaoyao with deepwood
I don’t have bennet, should I replace him with Xiangling (c1) or Yanfei (c0)?
(And if so, which weapon/artifact set should I use for them? I have TTDS at the moment for Yanfei and either Dragon’s Bane, the 5.4 event weapon, or prototype starglitter for Xiangling)
A noblesse ttds yanfei should be decent enough, but you need to go for very high er or u won't be able to ult every rot
What team can i build, for pyro i have xiangling, touma, yanfei chevreuse, if more info of my character is needed let me know, i need help with this pls
Ganyu melt without Bennett is not viable I'd say.
Ganyu melt teams usually look a little like this
Ganyu, Bennett, Pyro applicator, Flex
Now the pyro applicator can be xiangling, dehya, and very rarely kazuha burst or a premium option is Mauv.
The Flex slot is a buffer or shielder. This can be zhongli, nahida, sucrose, lanyan and so on.
The one slot that doesn't change is Bennett. There is just no other Bennett sadly and no one can replace him.
So if you can't use Bennett I'd say don't go for the melt route. Melt ganyu doesn't work without Bennett. That's the simple but harsh truth.
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Dehya is an option if you have too, but Xiangling is better at applying pyro, from what I know at least
Kinich/Bennett(noblesse)/Nahida(deepwood)/Thoma(tenacity)- you might want to run pyro mc > thoma with scroll when you have access to them :)
Nahida doesn’t trigger her Tri Karma with burning so you won’t get any meaningful uptime on deepwood. Thoma cannot trigger 4pc tenacity as it requires constant skill hits to proc.
It’s better to run Thoma on 4pc deepwood and use Nahida on another team. The only meaningful dendro worth using with Kinich is Emilie.
PMC on scroll is a good shout tho. Best team is probably Kinich, Bennet, Xiangling/Thoma on deepwood and Pyro MC
Really good point, I misremembered how tenacity procs thankyou!😅
Although I would still say if you run scroll on PMC you need dendro app before the pyro proc, otherwise kinich will have to burst at the start of the rotation so if you wanted to comfortably proc scroll running Nahida still works- ofc OP could replace her with Emilie next banner if they wanted to. (altho dont feel pressured to OP she doesn't buff Kinich's damage at all).
Alternatively, running Thoma provides comfort with his shield regardless with more optimal DW procs, but optimal rotations with scroll will be iffy instead.
Up to OP which they'd prefer considering they may want to use Nahida because its one of their few limited 5 stars :)
Although I don't reccomend Xiangling for him, unless you spin in the opposite direction of pyronado it feels pretty rubbish to play :(
>The only meaningful dendro worth using with Kinich is Emilie.
Isn't yaoyao good too??
Burn gives more raw damage and releases the bloom for the 3rd team in the abyss
My personal team is: Kinich, Rosaria, Pyro MC, and Bennett
Kinich is on obsidian codex, Rosaria is on deepwood for the dendro res shred and her ability to remove burning, Pyro MC is on Cinder City because of the buffs they give for having a nightsoul's blessing state, Rosaria is there to remove burning cause cryo doesn't react with Dendro so it's easier to reproc burning, cause Pyro MC needs to burn the dendro in order for the buffs to be applied (Pyro can't cause burning on an already burning enemy, only dendro can as burning is pyro), and Bennett for the attack buff, he's on noblesse
My rotation is: Kinich Burst (usually up once every other rotation), Rosaria Skill Burst, Pyro MC Skill Burst, and Bennett skill burst
This team works for me, but it isn't too effective against enemies who move around a lot, so just be wary of who you use it against
You could also do what the other commenter said, Kinich, Bennett, Thoma/Xiangling, and Pyro MC
Although like i said earlier, you may want someone to remove the burning so PMC can reproc cinder city and keep the buff up, so consider replacing Thoma/Xiangling with someone else who can remove the burning affect without outpacing PMC's elemental application if it isn't a cryo unit to avoid buffing the wrong element, like Kaeya or Rosaria, or maybe even Xingqiu, i'll have to test him though
Throw aside meta for awhile, just want to ask which characters/teams do you find most fun to play (including meta teams if you like to play it)?
Eg. Mine as of now is itto cuz the way he swings his claymore during his burst look so satisfying (unfortunately no albedo/zhongli to form a good team with him)
I know this has been asked many times but after a few months of new characters and such would like to hear about your opinions. Thank you :)
I enjoy my Ayaka freeze team:- Ayaka, Shenhe, Mona & Ganyu.. I may pull Kokomi to add variety & fun to it
I also enjoy Raiden national, though I also want to try Raiden with other teams in the future
Venti+Albedo. Great combo to explore. In addition, most battles only take a few seconds.
keqing! i made an alt account recently and got her on my first 10 pull, and her attack animations are so pretty and quick
childe
Ayaka Rosaria Shenhe Diona
Or
Ganyu Ayaka Shenhe Diona
Basically cryo impact that I loves playing them so much. I loled a lot when diona E damage becomes absurd due to shenhe flat atk buff.
Seeing 130k+ damage from melt CA Ganyu is very exciting as well.
Xiangling and hutao for damage. Bennett for utility. Heck bennett does pretty good damage too
Amber.
You try lighting all of those torches with any other character.
Yeah, exactly
Its Amber.
Yoimiya be like
Yanfei be like
Bennett
Benny boy
Aside from Bennett, i would say xiangling because of her ability to provide pyro damage off field and as a support. Xiangling's your go-to if you want a support pyro applicator.
Edit: plus, she cutee.
Best characters for a pyro team in genshin impact
Key Considerations for a Pyro Team in Genshin Impact:
Elemental Reactions: Pyro characters can trigger powerful elemental reactions like Overloaded (with Electro), Melt (with Cryo), and Vaporize (with Hydro). Consider characters that can synergize well with these elements.
Role Diversity: A balanced team typically includes a main DPS, sub-DPS, support, and healer. This ensures you can deal damage while maintaining survivability.
Energy Recharge: Look for characters that can generate energy particles to help with elemental burst uptime, especially for your main DPS.
Weapon Compatibility: Ensure that your characters can effectively utilize weapons that enhance their abilities, such as claymores for physical damage or bows for ranged attacks.
Recommended Characters for a Pyro Team:
Diluc (Main DPS): High damage output with his claymore and elemental burst, which deals AoE Pyro damage.
Xiangling (Sub-DPS): Great for applying Pyro consistently with her Pyronado and can trigger reactions with her elemental skill.
Bennett (Support/Healer): Provides healing and an attack boost through his elemental burst, making him invaluable for any team.
Fischl (Electro Support): Pairs well with Pyro characters to trigger Overloaded reactions, enhancing overall damage.
Klee (Main DPS): Another strong Pyro DPS option with high AoE damage potential and great for triggering reactions.
Team Composition Example:
This composition allows for consistent Pyro application, healing, and high damage output through elemental reactions.
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