TL;DR Popular choices for skate deck rails include Lil Jawns, Powell Peralta, and OJ Juice Bars. They enhance sliding performance and protect graphics but add weight to the board.
Benefits of Deck Rails
Deck rails are primarily used to improve sliding performance on various surfaces. They help achieve smoother and faster slides, especially on rough or crusty surfaces [1:1]
[2:4]. Rails can also provide additional clearance for tricks involving larger wheels, such as rock to fakie
[1:1]. Some users appreciate the aesthetic appeal of rails and find them fun to use
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[2:2].
Protection and Stability
While rails can help protect graphics, they won't completely prevent scratches during board slides [1:4]. However, they do add stability to the board, which can be beneficial for older riders or those who prefer a more stable setup
[2:5]. Rails can also make grabs easier by providing something to hook fingers onto
[4:4].
Popular Brands and Models
Several brands and models have been recommended by users. Lil Jawns rails are praised for their durability and performance, particularly the Moth Jawns variant [4:1]
[4:3]. Powell Peralta rails are noted for their thickness and longevity, while OJ Juice Bars offer good sliding performance
[4:2]. Thin rails like Pig rails tend to wear out quickly
[4:2].
Installation Tips
Proper installation is crucial to avoid issues like loosening or rattling. Using double-sided mounting tape before screwing in the rails can help keep them secure [2:1]
[4:4]. For thinner decks like flight decks, using specific screws and pre-drilling holes can prevent damage to the top ply
[4:3]. Additionally, trimming the tips of stock screws can ensure a flush mount
[4:10].
Considerations Beyond the Discussions
When choosing deck rails, consider your personal skating style and preferences. If you frequently skate on rough surfaces or enjoy performing slides, rails could be a valuable addition to your setup. It's also worth experimenting with different rail placements to optimize balance and slide consistency.
What's your guys opinion on deck rails for things like protecting graphics, and getting smoother board slides?
If you want to boardslide some crusty ass curbs without having to absolutely slather them in wax multiple times over, rails will help.
If you want to protect your graphics, don't skate your board.
Strangely, rails catch/grab in some chunky parking blocks. They don't always help.
I said crusty, not chunky.
Chunky curbs are just fucked regardless of your setup, wax job, etc.
Don’t really care or consider the graphic saving aspect usually, but I do enjoy them. I’ve been known to only ride one on my toe side because I mainly do front smiths and back feebles anyways so it works for that and makes for a slick boadslide but kinda ruins my front boards cause I’m a weenie.
If your board sliding, the rails aren’t going to fully protect the graphic. The middle will still find a way to get scratched. Either from the board flexing and making contact, or more likely from when you exit and catch the edge of the ledge/bar/rail.
Busted up ledges, DIY, and basically any sketchy street slide?: Yes
The metal ledges at the skatepark or coping?: noooooooo fuckin’ thank you
They slide faster on board slides, they can help add clearance for board slide and rock to fakie type tricks with larger wheels.
They help protect your graphic.
They do make your board heavier
And if they start to loosen up they make a pretty annoying sound when they rattle around.
If doing long board slides is your game, or if you just like the look and don't mind adding weight to your board, then go ahead get them.
Hell, get them anyway just to try them out. Skateboarding is about having fun and rails can be fun.
Alright fellow oldsters. Planning my first street board purchase in many a moon. What are we doing about rails these days? I am not planning on going through a deck every month or 2 like some do. So I was thinking of throwing some rails on there to keep it nice.
What do you all do? Thanks!
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I like rails because when I do rock to fakies on mini ramp I have a nice smoothe surface to rock back on. I like having the rails to help me roll into obstacles a little smoother if my board bottoms out and honestly... They just fuckin look cool lol
I ride a Powell Peralta Ripper deck and I will always have risers and rails on my board :-)
I had never used rails before and decided to try them out now that they’re considered cool again. I’ve really enjoyed them, you can boardslide anything pretty easily.
Agreed
same sentiment
Boardslides for days. Plus it is way easier to get into things like Boardslide to hurricane or feeble. Rails are amazing
I never used rails, I always thought what's the point... Then I got some. They are awesome. Adds stability to the board so it does t break as easily and for us old guys who may or may not have "Thickened" a bit over the years this helps. Also if you are skating street spots it really allows much more ease and fun in sliding different stuff out in the wild. It also takes out the rocker on the board when board sliding making them feel much more stable. I know they aren't really "cool" but aren't most of us just doing it for the joy of it now? Double also, saves the main graphic which I really like.
Bottom line is they are like 5-15 bucks, may as well try them and see if you like them.
I just started using rails on my last deck and just put a new set on my new one. I'm hooked. I slide so smoothly across everything. just make sure you install them right if you choose to get them. I use gorilla glue's clear permeant double sided tape and stick them down before hand tightening each screw. doesn't budge at all. good luck with whatever you decide. [32YO]
If you recommend em, if possible drop a comment on why, equally if you do not
They're cheap and can come off if you don't like 'em. No reason not to try.
True true. Will they screw on the same for a flight deck?
Yes
unnecessary if you're just skating a park
What about grinding rails at the park?
you're fine without them for anything that has metal coping
I've decided to get a new deck because my current (read my 20 year old) 7.5 deck is just too small for me and my current body type. So I think I'm going to go with the Andy Anderson Hydrant Gold Flight Deck. I'm thinking I might want to try deck rails with it as they seems more common and more accepted these days. They were definitely not cool in the early 00s.
So I wanted to see what people like and dislike about them?
Favourite Brand/Model?
Any pro tips for installation?
I've never used them, but thought it's better to try them with a fresh deck, and since I'm coming back to skating after 20 years I'm basically re-learning a lot of stuff so I'm not muscle memory biased in any way.
I have Powell rails on 3 of my set ups and OJ juice bars on 1 set up. The Powell rails slide great and they're thick enough to last a long time. They're also priced right. OJ juice bars are good too but I think the Powell rails slide a little better. Thin rails, like Pig rails, wear out too fast.
I prefer rails because boardslides balance easier and slide more consistently. And boardslide to hurricane is way easier with rails, if the rails are placed correctly on the board. You can balance on the gap between the rail and the edge of the board. Too close to the edge and you lose the advantage.
Since board width varies a lot I usually shoot for just inside the wheels but not completely inside. The main thing to keep in mind is to be careful putting in the screws. If you over tighten them they'll strip. Then your rails will rattle. I'll usually start with a cordless screwdriver then finish by hand tightening with a regular screwdriver.
This is great field use data! Thanks!
With that deck it's almost blasphemy to not put rails on it!
I highly recommend some Lil Jawns - Moth Jawns. They're the best rails out there and will last ages.
Hot tip for putting them on a flight deck... Because the deck is thinner, go to the hardware store and get some 6G, 9mm, pan head, sheet metal screws. They won't make dimples in the top ply. Also pre-drill the holes for the screws. The flight decks are harder than maple to screw straight into.
>With that deck it's almost blasphemy to not put rails on it!
huh?
Because of that dorky graphic?
A dragon standing akwardly on a hydrant? I think it must be an age thing cause I find the graphics on his decks are just awful.
I think it's a reference to the fact that Andy Anderson uses rails on all his boards, not because the graphic needs protecting
Or optionally just back out the stock screws and snip the tips off with side cutters then final tighten. This also gives you a chance to razor scrap the screw holes to get rid of the wood pulled up by the threads and get a nice flush mount.
Great tips! Thanks! I'll see if anyone in Vancouver sells the Lil Jawns. I like to support local shops.
lil jawns rails are the best
Double sided mounting tape before you screw them in will keep em from getting loose and rattling. Rails make boardslides and lip slides super consistent. That's the main reason I got them. Also makes grabs easier as you've got something to hook your fingers on.
Lil jawn rails!
I've seen them get mentioned a few times. Now I just need to find a local shop that carries them!
Boardslide to hurricane on a curb makes them worth it
Clean 9.5 out 10 I just don’t like the rails, but to each to its own 🔥
Lowkey just added the rails because the board is insanely light. I just wanted to add some weight to it
Oh ok I feel you, what board is that?
Kinda good but i don't like the rails and the pink bubble buahing, they don't match at all. Clean by the way💥 7/10
Should I use board rails? Should I install them now or later? I'm a pretty new skater so I'm not grinding much of anything yet. I love my graphic on my board and paid a pretty penny for it. Also, does anyone know of screw less board rails? Like adhesive ones? Again, I love my board and absolutely do not want to damage it. Thanks! Also it's late where I am so I won't be able to respond to comments until tomorrow.
I tried them a handful of times like friends who had rails. Good for boardslides. But personally I never really cared for them. I don't think you will find adhesive ones at least from what I know.
I’m personally not a fan of them but that’s because I like the torn up character a board gets after a couple months of love
I wouldn't recommend them for a new skater as they will make your board heavier. Also if what you care about is only your graphic well don't worry if you don't do any slides you may get some missing parts but the overall graphic will stay for a while. I have had my board for more than a year and since I never slide my graphic is still almost new
Do whatever you want to do it's your board not any of our boards, comes down to personal preference.
Either way you're still going to go through boards.
You're gonna go through a lot of decks in your skate career. Better to accept that its going to get damaged, as that's a sign of progress and working hard on getting better. If its not the graphic that goes first then it'll be the tails razoring and breaking off, or the board getting split from a bad landing or stress cracks over time. Depending on the concave of your board rails might not even protect the graphic, that's not really what they're for. They're more for ease of grabs and slides. Also, there are no adhesive ones that I'm aware of. They wouldn't be strong enough to stay on with the abuse boards take.
From a functional standpoint I'm not a fan of them, they make the board feel and sound different to ride on and they are way too fast on slides for my taste.
Embrace Wabi Sabi.
Slipperyer the better.
> Wabi Sabi.
Thank you for showing me this
Who's using rails? When I were little, rails weren't cool, think Plan B Questionable vid era. You just slid on the board. But the other day I was trying board slides on a metal rail at a local park and it was sticking like glue and I thought: "man some rails might help I'm this kind of situation".
So rails? Who's using them? Who's against them? Will they make me look like a grem?
Rails, people, what's the deal?
Street skaters might give you some shit. But who honestly cares? A couple of 10 year kids I coach use them. They shred ramps and it’s really helped them with rock fakies and shit. Another good buddy of mine uses them he skates a lot of vert but can front board a 2m long metal rail with ease. No wax, just goes hella fast and let’s the rails do the work. It’s all up to you, it’s your board, ride it how ever you want.
Haha, I might put some on now just to cause a commotion.
I would wax the crap out of everything. Underside of board and the rail itself. I mainly did wall grinds though.
Andy Anderson uses them, and he's insane.
Came here to leave this comment but now I don’t have to.
They've come back in style along with lots of other oldschool stuff. Rock em if ya want em.
Rock em if you got em. We're old now, who cares what other people think.
35.5mm Soilder bar, deep concave 3.0 brts, oak rv2s
36mm tp decks, high kicks 3.0 brts, oak rv2s
I’m glad you are enjoying your deck 🫶☺️
What is that table?
very flowy :)
I asked this question on r/NewSkaters but I figured I'd also come to you guys. Should I use board rails? Should I install them now or later? I'm a pretty new skater so I'm not grinding much of anything yet. I love my graphic on my board and paid a pretty penny for it. Also, does anyone know of screw less board rails? Like adhesive ones? Again, I love my board and absolutely do not want to damage it. Thanks! Also it's late where I am so I won't be able to respond to comments until tomorrow.
I ride rails, specifically Yocaher rails since they are taller than Bones. This helps prevent hanging up on coping or curbs(it can still happen but it helps a ton) There are no adhesive rails, even if there were you wouldn't want them. They would pop off after a while and damage your board more than screws would. Lastly it's a skateboard, so if you don't want to damage it, the best thing to do would be to hang it up somewhere on a wall where you can look at it and never ride it again, otherwise, it's a skateboard so it's going to get some dings. Rails help save the graphic but it can still get damaged.
Rails help with a few things: making grabbing the board easier, having more control and consistency over board slides, and they help prevent hangups on curbs or coping. As to where to place them on your board it is a preference, here is Andy Anderson talking about rail placement to help understand more: https://youtu.be/X2hzfcwmsII?t=1191
If you need any help or have any other questions let me know. I'm happy to help.
I had rails on my first real board from a Skateshop but I didn't ever use them after that. I do remember it was a little easier to grab the board doing judos and airwalks but didn't make a big enough difference to make me miss them.
Bro you can always get a new deck they run like.50 bucks at most.
Mine was 66 for the deck and like 160 for the complete. Freakin expensive.
Man I know the feeling. I bought an old school reissue and the deck only was $67. Pro model popsicles are $56. You can get shop decks from your local skate shop for like $40. I always encourage people to support the brands/shops because the skaters that ride for them work hard and deserve the support. I’ve created my own brand that is geared towards skaters that are on a budget. If you like check us out on IG @psycho_city_skateboards. No pressure and much love ��
The one thing they offer is a slick slide and not having to wax so much. If you're just learning to boardslide, I don't think it will make a huge difference until you're actively doing it and can make the distinction yourself. Also, your board is your tool for learning on. It's cool to love the board, but it's even better to make good use of it and then move on once it breaks or wears down. I'm sure you'll spend more time riding it than looking at it. Good luck!
I have a love-hate relationship with rails. I ride them, just cause I've always ridden them and it just seems like they ought to be on a board. The're useful to grab for airs and inverts, I'll give them that. However, more often than not they make things super difficult - ever try a BS disaster with rails when the coping has been waxed? Man, oh, man.
Hello, I've recently got into skateboarding and I want to build a complete. I've done research but the reviews aren't that clear. I want a deck that is durable, and is good all round. Price doesn't matter. Cheers
Magenta , Real, Powell Peralta , Hockey/FA . Check out Powells 'flight decks' if money is no object
Where tf did you come up with this list
Magenta: my friend who is rad swears by them. Nice shape and solid deck, sick team as well
Real: ishod wair
Powell Peralta: classics
FA/Hockey have a solid set of riders too. Some people love the shape and swear by em and others not. Worth trying though
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103057.0 any brand of this list
Creature are sick as well
best skate deck rails
Key Considerations for Skate Deck Rails
Material: Look for rails made from durable materials like aluminum or high-quality plastic. Aluminum rails tend to be more robust and resistant to wear.
Length and Width: Choose rails that fit your skate deck size. Standard lengths are typically around 7-8 feet, and width should be comfortable for your board's width.
Weight: Lightweight rails are easier to handle and transport, especially if you plan to take them to different locations.
Grip and Stability: Ensure the rails have a good grip to prevent slipping during tricks. Some rails come with rubberized feet or grips for added stability.
Portability: If you need to transport your rails, consider foldable or easily disassembled options for convenience.
Recommendations:
Baker Skateboards Rails: Known for their durability and solid construction, Baker rails are a favorite among skaters for both street and park use.
Element Skateboard Rails: These rails are lightweight and made from high-quality materials, making them great for tricks and easy to set up.
SkateXS Skate Rails: Ideal for beginners, these rails are adjustable and portable, allowing for various setups and easy transport.
Choosing the right skate deck rails will enhance your skating experience, so consider your skill level and the types of tricks you want to perform when making your selection.
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