BIG4 should be 2nd tier, especially if you have CFA1. Aim for an actual finance role. Big4 are ultimately back-office / support shops. And not were the real action is.

Started in Industry, went to Big4, got out as soon as I could.

All of them

Getting hired out of college and working at big 4 is harder. Transfering in with experience is easier.

If you go to a school they target for recruiting and have a good GPA, you have a pretty good chance. Getting an internship is also a plus so long as you don't fuck a partners wife or burn down the break room.

It’s not very hard even from a no name school

Source: my experience

Depends on how you define difficult. It’s difficult if you go to a non-campus recruiting school and have a poor GPA. It’s not difficult if you go to a campus recruiting school and have a good GPA, or if you have years of experience as a staff or senior accountant and want to join the firm as an experienced hire.

As someone who worked in 2 big 4, it will depend on the team you have. Big 4 do not only do audit, they also have the advisory( financial and tech), tax and support teams. My first one, company A i had a pretty toxic manager and often worked 14 hours per day. The manager constantly pitted us against each other and was inapt at her job. My 2nd job in company B, the amount of work was so much more than in company B. But the manager way of working was structured and he was very knowledgeable. I grew so much and learned so much. I have friends in other field who had the complete opposite. Company B was very toxic to them and they were flocking to company A. You should research in terms of the team and leadership you will be working with. Ultimately a lot of people work atleast 3-5 years and then move on, because it has a lot of weight on your CV. Also after 5 years, they absolutely fall off in terms of pay compared to management companies, banks and industries like IBL, Enl, ciel, etc. The amount of work is also so much less because big 4 companies are constantly understaffed and overbooked.

Yes literally all the time. I worked at KPMG, colleagues went to Haas, Ross, NYU, UCLA, Cornell, McCombs, and Vanderbilt. Not to mention the others who went to top tier law schools who now work in Big Law, it’s a very common route.

I started in B4 audit, moved to B4 advisory, got into an m7, switched to tech PM. Had a good story and decent stats. Didn't get my cpa. Dm me if you'd like.

Incoming Big4 Audit….i have an interview with MIT Sloan’s Early Admission Program in a week and my second CPA exam the following week. So yes.

It’s a deferred MBA program, so just like Harvards 2+2 program where you apply in your final year of undergrad and then if accepted you must defer a minimum of 2 years and maximum of 4/5 years before entering their traditional 2 year full time MBA. So if I’m accepted then I’d do 2-4 years at Deloitte before matriculation to MIT Sloan.

In this market, they also go from a good MBA to the big 4.

The problem with Risk or IT "Consulting" at big 4 is that they trick the unsuspecting naïve new grads that they will be "consultants". If they ever tell people that you'd be a glorified internal auditor then no one would ever apply to those positions at big 4.

Corporate finance (which is basically MM IB)

Management / strategy consulting - anything M&A related

Deal Advisory / Transaction services - Valuation teams take a lot of finance majors

Avoid

Risk advisory, risk assurance , IT Audit , internal audit, tech risk, - anY variations avoid trust me

from what I read. IT audit is a deadens career

You can still exit to cushy ‘proper’ consulting roles from it so I would say it can be

I never said IT Audit is better than those. Quit spewing bull shit. Back onto the block list u go. Delusional peon

Credit + for vacation roles, even better if you are D+

Depends on the role - Treasury - definitely! There are many clubs not related to Business that need a treasurer to help budget and track spending.

Be a treasurer for a club or society! Volunteering with Peer Network, Soul, Build or Business Mentors. Any sort of paid work experience is great too.

1. In this day and age, a high credit to distinction is required in addition to extracurriculars (subcom, director). Note that due to the 1/3 decrease in grad jobs this year, people with D's also get rejected.

2. I would say government roles in general used to be less competitive, but nowadays, many find it hard to get a graduate job. In all, I would say it is around the same. Plus, government departments have more recruiting rounds in comparison to the 2 that the Big 4 have.

3. Faculty societies, hobby societies (great convo starter) & volunteering. As for work experience, I would try in this order:

- Apply to cadet and adjacent programs (e.g. PWC has an assurance/audit cadet program)

- Cold email local accounting firms (unpaid if need be, and they may take you on as a paid employee OR you can leverage that experience to get a paid position elsewhere)

- Apply for office admin jobs

A & F Headhunter here. Even in this market I have at least ten clients that would hire a 1-2 yr BIG4 CPA at the staff level by end of week if they could.

If you are open to staff level general accounting you should have no trouble. In Chicago you're looking at base of 60k to 70k, zero travel and 40ish hours going up 50 around 3 to 5 day close.

If you want a Sr. Title or to go into finance you are going to have fewer options but those roles are still out there.

Industry.

I am a controller in manufacturing and have held jobs in pharma/life Sciences, industrial manufacturing, food manufacturing, and quick serve retail (fast food). Every one is different and interesting. I particularly enjoy manufacturing. Look at anything posted for finance or accounting around you. Lots of opportunities

On the same boat

Πρέπει να ξέρεις τι θέλεις. Εγώ το είδα ως επένδυση στον εαυτό μου (πριν 15 χρόνια). Θα δουλέψεις πολύ, θα πληρωθείς συγκριτικά λίγο, αλλά θα μάθεις x5 από αλλού. Θα δεις πολλές διαφορετικές εταιρείες, θα γνωρίσεις κόσμο. Με ένα καλό timing το exit θα έχει καλή επιστροφή στην επένδυση σου. Αν το δεις έτσι και έχεις όρεξη να λιώσεις δεν υπάρχει καλύτερο σχολείο και εφαλτήριο για την καριέρα σου. Τουλάχιστον αυτά ίσχυαν παλιότερα. 

Προ τιπ: καλά exit points είναι στα 3 (senior), 5-6 (manager) η 10 (senior manager) χρόνια. 

να πας. θα δουλευεις πολλες ωρες αλλα δυστυχως αξιζει. γιατι; γιατι θα μαθεις πολλα, και θα χτισεις βιογραφικο. θα εχεις και πιο πολλες πιθανοτητες για να φυγεις εξωτερικο αργοτερα. επισης μακροπροθεσμα μπορει να μπεις σε υψηλες θεσεις manager, senior manager, director και να βγαζεις τρελα λεφτα για τα ελληνικα δεδομενα π.χ. 3000ευρω καθαρα.

Δεν ξεκινάς για τον μισθό σε τέτοιες εταιρίες. Είναι άλλα τα κίνητρα (εμπειρία, εξέλιξη, καλή έξοδος).

Να πας αν ξερεις που πηγαινεις. Σαν να κανεις αιτηση για ΟΥΚ, μη πας περιμενοντας λουλουδια.

Βαρας 12ωρα, εχεις τρελες διοριες, εχει αρκετο στρες.

Πληρωνει καλα, ανεβαινεις σχεδον καθε χρονο θεση και μισθο, μαθαινεις σε 3 οσα θα μαθαινες σε 15 χρονια σε μια κανονικη θεση, κανεις γνωριμίες με απειρες εταιρειες καο χτυ9ας καλη θεση μερα τα 3-5 χρονια εκει.

Πηγαινει αν εχεις αυτο το πλανο, να φας σκατα για 3 χρονια, να σκιστεις και να μαθεις με προοπτικη να βρεις καλη δουλεια μετα. 

Απο οσους μπηκαμε (πριν 15 χρονια) Το 30% τα παρατησε στο χρονοα, το 30% εχει παραμεινει στην εταιρεια, το υπολοιπο 40% εχει βρει δουλεια εκτος. Κανενας δεν ειναι κακοπληρωμενος για επιπεδα ελλαδας. Δεν ξερω πως ειναι τα πραγματα τα τελευταια χρονια οποτε επιφυλασομαι.

Εγώ με μεταπτυχιακό που είχα κάνει συνέντευξη μου είχαν πει 950€-1.000€. Απλά επειδή ξέρω τι σκατό τρώνε δεν το αποδέχτηκα και έφυγα έξω. Αλλά τόσο είναι γενικώς. Ανάλογα τα προσόντα σου, αν δεν μπορείς να βγεις έξω πάνε. Βγάζεις 1.000€, κάθεσαι 2 χρόνια και μετά πας κάπου πιο ανθρώπινα.

On the resume: GPA, 150 credits before starting at the firm, extracurriculars/work experience. For the interview: someone who is personable and has social skills.

Edit: any skills/proficiency with Alteryx, Tableau, UiPath or data analytics will make you stand out. Alteryx has a free core certification program online. If you have some time during the summer, I recommend getting it and putting it on your resume.

Everyone has the GPA. You want leadership roles e.g. in your accounting society, etc. Then get to know someone /do an internship.

Based on my application history with them, I can probably tell you what they aren't looking for...

Good gpa, don't be socially awkward at the interview. That's it.

Literally dont be weird and have a good GPA = guaranteed Big4

Big4 is borderline blue collar work btw not as selective as u think it is