i'm definitely more experienced with the Latitude line, but i would say modern Latitudes (5000 series and better) have at least similar build quality to Thinkpads, with the comment that Latitudes are DEFINITELY more repairable.

In canada Lenovo no longer even has an option for next business day on-site repairs, you HAVE to send in to a depot, which is insane imo.

This is what I know and have experienced.

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• Dell has 4 tiers of laptop lines.
• Lenovo has over 50 tiers of laptop lines.

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• Dell has a budget friendly consumer and business line which if not a great build quality.
• Lenovo has many, many niche and generic lines of budget friendly laptops that are of poor build quality.

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• Dell's top tier lines start around $2000 and go up.
• Lenovo's top tier start around $3000 and go up.

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• Dell's parts are set for at least a year with part manufacturer agreements for part supplies.
• Lenovo will use whatever they have in-stock and may substitute a comparable part if they run out or the part is discontinued.

I joined my company after they did a laptop refresh from Dells to Lenovos. Past jobs I've had, I always had a Lenovo ThinkPad. I think they hold up really well. More recently, we've been getting the T15 Gen 2s and the X1 Yogas (for higher ups; originally MS Surfaces were being provided, but Yogas were proving to be more sturdy and longer lasting. Plus, they double as touch screens!). We usually get them under warranty so if something does happen, it's as easy as submitting a ticket to Lenovo support, they send a box, and we ship them the laptop to repair (usually about a week).

I'm kind of biased though because I have no experience with Dells.

High end Latitude + Precisions are great machines. Dell's support wins 100x over though. With TechDirect you can open tickets directly bypassing the phone, and if you get your techs certified (free!) you can self dispatch parts.

both are high quality - Dell wins out for me due to their support being better from what I have experienced.

ThinkPads are the business equivalent for Lenovo and are often highly regarded in the business tech field.

Here goes the equivalent series names for each major manufacturer. You may need to get acquainted with how they're divided price-wise.

HP: ProBook and EliteBook

Lenovo: ThinkPad

Acer: TravelMate

Asus: ExpertBook

I would consider more the CPU than the brand, generally old Intel are like small furnace, Always hot and consume a lot of Power, what you should be looking for are : Low price ryzen 7 7840/8840 High price Intel ultra 200 series the One ending in v for more battery Life, the h One for more Power or go amd ryzen ai 9 365/370

Lenovo Thinkpad. I have a workstation laptop 128gb DDR4 3200 ECC RTX 5000 for quite long time, no single issue. The only complain mine is quite heavy.

ProBook competes at the same price point as Vostro (Budget business), but is generally more on par with modern latitudes. E-Series/L-Series ThinkPads would be the Lenovo equivalent.

EliteBooks are competitors/twins to T-Series ThinkPads and are generally better than the current crop of Latitudes.

Zbooks are Dell Precision/P-Series ThinkPad competitors and tend to outmatch both in regards to sheer longevity and modularity.

ThinkPad.

1. It's the ThinkPad subreddit, so we're biased. SHOCKING!!

2. 11th gen is improved performance from 10th gen, and MASSIVELY improved iGP from 10th gen.

3. Trackpoint.

As a technician, I would say, since 2020, Dell's chassis has been terrible for 3000 and 5000 series. A great way to know how your laptop might look in the future will be searching through eBay for it under 'Parts only' category. You'd be surprised at how many Latitudes have their paint ripping off, lol. If not that, there was a crappy hinge problem some time back.

The T14 Gen 2 spots a better CPU and iGPU, as another commentor said, and would, effectively, outlive its Dell counterpart from 2021.

Take The E14. They're solid ThinkPad quality.

They handle heavy drops on the floor.

Both the Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen2 and the Dell Latitude 5400 are excellent laptops for business and academic use, but the ThinkPad T14 Gen2 is the better choice for your specific requirements. Here's why:

Comparison

ThinkPad T14 Gen2 Dell Latitude 5400

Processor- Intel Core i7 11th Gen (faster and more efficient than Intel Core i7 10th Gen

RAM - 16GB (Upgradable) on both of the laptops.

Storage 512GB SSD (Upgradable) on both laptops

Display- 14" Touch Screen (1080p, sharp and responsive on the T14. Same resolution touchscreen but not sharp and responsive.

Battery Life- Up to 7-9 hours (real-world: ~6 hours) on the T14 and up to 5-7 hours (real-world: ~4.5-5 hours) on the Dell Weight ~1.46 kg (lighter, more portable)- On T14 and ~1.6 kg on the Dell

Build Quality- Military-grade durability, better keyboard on the T14 but the Dell is not durable as the ThinkPad.

Ports Better variety (Thunderbolt 4, USB-C, USB-A, HDMI) on the T14. Dell is decent but lacks Thunderbolt support Longevity Designed for 3-5 years of business use(ThinkPad T14) Good for 2-4 years of business use in Dell

Why ThinkPad T14 Gen2 is Better

1. Newer Processor: The 11th Gen Intel Core i7 in the ThinkPad T14 Gen2 is faster and more power-efficient than the 10th Gen i7 in the Dell Latitude 5400. This means better multitasking and battery performance.

2. Battery Life: Real-world usage shows the ThinkPad T14 Gen2 has a slight edge in battery life, comfortably lasting through lectures.

3. Build Quality: ThinkPads are known for their rugged, durable design and an industry-leading keyboard, making them ideal for heavy daily use.

4. Thunderbolt 4 Support: The ThinkPad offers Thunderbolt 4, which is great for high-speed data transfers and connecting to docks or external displays.

5. Portability: It's slightly lighter and easier to carry around campus.

Why Consider Dell Latitude 5400?

1. Slightly cheaper maintenance costs (replacement parts are often more affordable).

2. If you're more comfortable with Dell's design or support ecosystem.

Verdict

Go for the Lenovo ThinkPad T14 Gen2. It has a newer processor, better battery life, and build quality, making it a more reliable and future-proof choice for business school and beyond.

Would you like more advice on optimizing either of these laptops for your use case?

• Linux compatibility?
  • Equal on all 3 generally.
• Hinges that break less?
  • Equal on all 3.
• Easier to service?
  • Lenovo wins this. Easy to find HMM for almost every business model, while HP and Dell has them, much harder to find.
• Lighter weight? Thinner?
  • Depends on the exact models you're comparing. X1C vs. 5000 series, you bet. L14 vs. 7000 series, I don't think so...
• Longer battery life?
  • Depends on the exact models, as they each have some modles htat have impressive battery sizes, and some that don't.
• Display (higher res, brighter)
  • Depends on the exact models, for hte most part outside the X1 line Lenovo still has pretty underwhelming to downright garbage stock panels...but generally, so does Dell and HP.
• Trackpoint
  • Yes.

I like ThinkPads (currently own 4 waiting on the E14 G7 to be released in US to get another), Elitebooks (own 1, but really 2 since the Zbook Firefly is just the Elitebook with a different BIOS), and Probooks (own 1). Not a fan of Latitudes recently since they never kept up with the CPU manufacturers and offered good CPU's in that lineup of laptops since like 2019. With Intel becoming competitive again, that might change in the next year or so, though.

For home, I would go Dell. More upgradable (eg no whitelist for wifi cards, although I am not sure if Lenovo still does that), more serviceable (the dells just seem to react better to amateur surgery, the Lenovos need a more skilled surgeon…), etc.

For work, ThinkPad all the way. Great reliability, great support (Lenovo premier support in North Carolina is outstanding), great looks, great durability (most of our T470s/T480ses are still kicking just fine), etc. Not so great hinges, though, at least not on the T14s G2 which is prone to catastrophic hinge failure.

I don’t even consider HP; in my view in Canada they are a distant third player in business laptops.

Latitude in between? They are ugly as shit, bro. Honestly, never owned neither Latitude nor Elitebook, but there is a lot of complains about HP bios updates, sometimes it might even brick device. That`s what i know about how they differ, i think everything else is pretty similar.

Main reason to get a Thinkpad nowadays is the design and the keyboard tbh. I really dislike laptops that try to look like a MacBook, and Thinkpads are pretty much the only ones left who don't do that. Also, I hate aluminium in tech.

I’ve had all three. They’re all about the same. What I don’t like on some of the newer HPs and Dells though is the lack of hard buttons for the touchpad/pointing stick. I don’t understand why all of these brands try to emulate Apple.

I don't know how new Dell laptops perform, but my experience with Vostro 5568, XPS 9343 and Latitude 7480 is not particularly good as they tend to run very hot, really really hot. You can hear the fan wheezing loud even in a noisy environment, the palm rest and keyboard are very warm.

I think you should get the Thinkpad instead. T16 with AMD chipsets have better battery life and comparable performance to the T16 with Intel chipsets. You should note that the T16 AMD does NOT have Thunderbolt (Only USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C), while Dell has 2 Thunderbolt ports. (Note: T16 with Intel chipsets have 2 Thunderbolt ports)

As for longevity, both Dell Latitude and Lenovo Thinkpad have a reputation for reliability. But the Lenovo support is rated as "not very good" as many users have reported poor consumer care (I can't verify the service by myself, I just read such news on Lenovo forums). Commumity-run support for Thinkpad seems to be more known than Latitude (shoutout r/thinkpad)

Both models meet your needs and requirements.

To sum up, if you need Thunderbolt 4 ports (for faster connection speed, connect to an external display or eGPU), go for the Latitude (or get Thinkpad T16 with Intel chipset). Otherwise, if you don't need Thunderbolt 4, get the T16 AMD that you mentioned in the post.

dell kayanya fokus ke b2b karena harganya kemahalan untuk general public.

kalo lenovo mungkin emang sengaja dari awal lini thinkpad buat b2b, buat retail beda model lagi

1 kata: mahal.

pernah punya dell xps di 2010an awal, aftersales is a bitch, even ampe sekarang, kekna dell indonesia ini fokusnya b2b, iirc nama model ya precision (workstation) & latitude (normie), yng consumer gk ada samsek cuma dulu inspiron mayan laku, xps & alienware? lmao

Thinkpad… karena dia laptop bisnis untuk market b2b bukan laptop retail, laptop retail lenovo ya ideapad, yoga, legion, dll…. Sama aja kek laptop b2b brand lain yng jarang ada… basically thinkpad dll marketnya buat perusahaan/bisnis beliin laptop bwt karyawan, bukan orng personal (serah kerja apa aja) beli bwt pake, makanya bekasnya berjibun

2016 temen beli dell inspiron pakai uang sendiri, kualitas: gila jelek banget. Terus rusak salah satu tombolnya, claim garansi via online, setelah beberapa kali chat untuk tanya2 ,tiba2 minta alamat kantor, datang ke kantor, langsung dibenerin ditempat (kantor). Dibongkar di depan temen gw, di ganti spare partnya sambil ngbrol, pasang lagi, mantapp puool. Katanya kalau yang dell tipe mahal, bisa 1-2 tahun lebih lama garansi untuk perbaikan datang ke tempat. Kalau sekarang tidak seperti itu ya penurunan atau kurang marketing.

Dell buat retail kureng banget, terakhir beli belum ada seminggu Mobo nya rusak.

Lenovo Thinkpad, they seem the sturdiest and reliable. I have one for personal use, and my work only provides those for staff who want laptops.

ThinkPads in my opinion are studier and generally are known as a good used laptop!

Dell has been a highly unreliable company for me and extremely uncooperative and unhelpful customer service. I’ve heard good things about Lenovo tho.

They're all similar but the thing with tech is that advances are made very very quickly. A 2018 Lenovo will be far better than a 2016 Dell.

Ultimately, I'd say whichever one you like the most is perfect. If you don't need to do anything that'll push the hardware (rendering/animation, art, gaming), they'll all be similar.

Highly recommend investing a tiny bit into personalization for them too. It's not strictly a necessary purchase but I bought a few stickers from an artist friend and picked some up at thrift stores that I frequent and the joy I get from seeing them has made it very worth it!

I've had refurbished Latitude's and Thinkpad's. I prefer the Thinkpad's. They seem to have better screens and I like the keyboards better.

XPS has plenty of quality issues. Just search this sub. (sure XPS is cheap - better bang for buck - but runs hot and causes plenty of problems)

always a latitude or thinkpad. Latitudes last for years (search this sub)

ThinkPad is an absolute beast of a machine. You can’t kill it unless you really really want to. The same cannot be said about XPS though. But ThinkPad lacks that luxury and flair of XPS, it is much simpler in its design. I would personally rather buy a ThinkPad than an XPS at this point, but I’m biased because I’ve had 4 motherboards changed in my 7590 in a year and a half of usage, so take my opinion with a big grain of salt.

Thinkpad keyboard has a fn key on the left bottom instead of ctrl key on their keyboard. Not sure why. Maybe they hired an Apple engineer? This is the most annoying thing I ever had with Thinkpad. Other than that, it is very solid.

If you can afford an XPS then you definitely can afford a Macbook.

Unless there is some software or program not available for Mac that you can't do without, no one should be choosing a PC laptop over a Mac. Once you get one you'll understand.

The closest competitor to a Lenovo ThinkPad would certainly be the Dell Latitude lineup.

If you want a classic style business class laptop, aim for the Latitude 5410/5411 and 5510/5511. It has basically all the business class perks except upgradable CPU. It's a bit more bulky and also it's cheaper than the higher end 7000 and 9000 series, but they can feature pointing sticks, have two modular RAM slots for easy RAM upgrade, excellent serviceability and still features the old big barrel power jack that's far less likely to break than the small barrel jacks.

For a standard 14 or 15" ThinkPad, you would have to go back to a T480 and T580 to have two modular RAM slots. If maximum upgradability is not on your priority, then the ThinkPad T14 and T15 series will certainly do too.

If your budget is under like 700 bucks, you really should consider a second hand Latitude or ThinkPad laptop over a new one.

i don't think you'll go wrong sa i5 11th gen. i read something earlier sa thinkpad subs na 8th gen is starting to show its age (btw tinutukoy mo ba t4xx series?? not sure if may t14 na may 8th gen)... also, yung t14 i5 11th gen, i assume t14 gen gen 2? i would love a gen 2 tbh!! although one thing to keep in mind lang is the battery is only 51wh? might want to take that into consideration.

i kept my eye on a t480s kasi 57wh yung battery, but i wont really use it as my main since naka ideapad 5 pro ako na hand me down. i'll go for an m4 air na lang in the distant future for a more dramatic change in battery life and performance.

btw, have you considered mga m1 air? i think you'll be able to find ones in decent condition at around 20k