macbook air for battery life

you'd mostly want a thinkpad (used) like the T14 Gen 1, if you can't afford a macbook air.

the Thinkpad if you mostly value repairability of some components (like keyboard, battery) and upgradeable ram or storage.

durability, i think the macbook air is fairly durable. basta wag lang malalang tama.

mansan nasasagi ko sa table yung macbook air M1 ko...altho di malala...buhay pa naman.

mukang mas okay kung bibilin mo ung macbook.

Thinkpads are great honestly, pero I would never buy a brand new na thinkpad, kasi they last super long so I always buy second hand. Kaya super mura than the original price.

Id get the macbook no questions asked, both laptops check all your boxee but imo the macbook is more suited for those kinds of work, maybe much more if youre going to get any M series macbooks

If money isn’t a problem, the Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 13 is gold standard. Otherwise a Thinkpad X9 15” with a higher Lunar Lake processor is a great buy under 1.5k. You might want to wait a few weeks for reviews, though I think it’s going to be a great laptop.

Why not getting newer Mac?

P1 or nothing

A power bank

P series or X1 Carbon are the most desirable Lenovo models if you're looking for performance, either are a fantastic option, with the Carbon's being very very portable

I think either thinkbook, or thinkpad x1 carbon, or x9 should be similar experience to both mac and surface, if you want a touchscreen, there's x1 yoga

T14s Snapdragon was what I was targeting.

We have the same use case especially the gaming part. Starcraft II to be specific. Not sure if the Snapdragon Chip is capable of that.

I would've gotten this based on the battery reviews.

I didnt buy it because I lost a good opportunity to get a good priced one that had 5G WWAN card on it.

I tried doing a CTO but couldn't stomach the price difference. 1200 on ebay vs 2000 cto from lenovo.com pre - tariffs

Any Thinkpad will be able to do what you want. E14's are pretty cheap and surprisingly good.

Some things to consider on the MacBook/Thinkpad arguments: Whatever you spend on a MacBook, you will get a much better ThinkPad for the same price. Plus, they can usually be upgraded--pay attention to what you buy though. On the other hand, MacBooks blow ThinkPads out of the water in battery life. It's not even a competition. A MacBook also cannot be upgraded or repaired.

So based on your needs, you can really just get any old thing. It really doesn't matter, just pick what you like the most.

I would recommend a X1 Carbon or X1 Yoga. These are very durable, well built and lightweight.

With that said, any of the M1 to M3 15" Macbook Pro is really good too. But the base model comes with 8GB of Ram and only 256GB of storage. And it is already much more expensive than the Thinkpad X1 Carbon

Although Thinkpads are good, x86 processors lose a lot to ARM, so I would recommend MacBook for now. To be honest, I myself would gladly sell my X1 Carbon G6 and buy a new MacBook, because even with a new battery it is not as autonomous as a MacBook, and when it comes to performance, the MacBook is again much better

I write as a hobby and I am looking for a laptop that will have some longevity and portability, with durability.

ThinkPad is for you, period. The keyboard is no comparison. Although, I'd still recommend typing on a external capacitive or mechanical keyboard when possible.

While the M series SoCs are great on laptops, the glossy monitor, the PWM flickering, the notch, the rounded corners of the screen panels, and the poor ergonomics (such as the sharp and cold aluminum edges that dig into your wrists when typing) are just not a great experience for writing.

I have both, keyboard and touch mat screen are definitely what makes me prefer thinkpad.

Get a MacBook. Air maybe. Apple refurbished is excellent. The come with a full warranty and you can get AppleCare. Just get something with more than 8GB RAM if you want to future proof it. M2 (and M1) prices are dropping since the new M3 is out. I know I'm going to get downvoted because this is the Thinkpad group, but I use both and prefer the Macs. They are last for years if you take care of them.

> Why should I choose a THINKPAD instead of a MacBook Pro?

Because imagine not buying a business laptop, couldn't be me.

Depends what's your intended use and what model of ThinkPad in particular.

In general, a ThinkPad offers you more flexibility in terms of configurations and are easier to maintain / repair. In addition to that, they are more focused for corporate environments and have certain "business features" not present in the Apple ecosystem.

However, if you do intensive graphics work and a screen with high color fidelity is really important for you, a Mac can be a more straightforward solution (although definitely possible with some ThinkPad too)

And last, but not least, if you are deep in the Apple ecosystem already (iPhone, iCloud, Apple Music...) the MacBook will integrate seamlessly.

Cheaper especially if you want more RAM and SSD space, more repairable, better keyboard (imo), touch screen option, better ports selection.

You can't legally fix a MacBook pro

It’ll last longer and you’ll be able to replace/upgrade parts. If you like Mac OS. Then get a Mac

Thinkpad. Find a quad core or better if you want 4 years out of it. Most programs are designed to run on Windows, and compatibility of the mac is only soso for most computing software. Plus, thinkpad is built tougher and can take university transit quite well.

Thinkpad IMO. The keyboards are much better than apples.

I vote Thinkpad, T or X series. I own a 4th generation X1 Carbon and a 2015 MacBook Pro. The Thinkpad is lighter, has a better keyboard, and runs way cooler while still maintaining near silent operation. The MacBook is heavier, sturdier, and arguably has a better display. Both have very good touch pads. The Thinkpad boots windows way faster than I have seen macOS boot on any hardware.

Thinkpads. They are crazy reliable. Macs are just overpriced and under-powered, but somewhat reliable.

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Fun fact: Thinkpads are used on the ISS (International Space Station)

Source: http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/thinkpad-laptop-nasa-youtube-spacelab

I'd recommend a thinkpad. Current gen macbooks have good specs, sure, but they dont have the chassis to be able to get full use out of the specs (thermal throttling). Furthermore, a lot of people are dissatisfied with the butterfly keyboard. Since you mentioned that you wont be gaming (programming isn't that cpu/gpu intensive), you don't really need high end specs anyway.

Conversely, with the thinkpad, you can get the same specs for a much more optimized chassis, and you don't have to pay the apple premium. Speakinf of chassis and build quality, the thinkpad x1 models actually look pretty nice. Moreover, the thinkpad keyboards are, in a lot of people's opinions, one of the best laptop keyboards out there.

I think I covered the basics, but if you want more info, theres a lot of good info available on YouTube.

incorrect.  

There is a fair bit of buzz on the new T series as it seems to mark a return to serviceability and upgrade ability. 

The reason why people buy the older Thinkpads in part is the thinkpad community has a large Hobbyist and Linux component. We are tinkerers by nature and like an object which can be tweaked, customized and made unique. We don’t necessarily buy into the captive ecosystem approach of Apple. 

Also we don’t like e waste. Built in obsolescence drives us crazy. upgrading a screen, maxing out memory and throwing in a SSD on a 15 year old laptop can give new life to old hardware and keep precious metal materials out of the landfill. 

Very valid point. I still think the new ones are nice, but have overall lost their “thinkpad” identity in the grand scheme of things. Heck, many laptops have, as everyone now is trying to replicate the MacBooks build and design and I hate apple for it. Sadly it’s what majority of consumers/market demand so Lenovo has to to compete. Frustrating and sad, really

I just want a Thinkpad built like when IBM made it, but with modern hardware.

That's to be expected, and it's always been like this if you look back a decade and more.

The majority of posters on here buys used, and used devices are only available in large quantities as three-plus year-old corporate lease returns. That (the enterprise and SMB markets) is Lenovo's core Thinkpad customer base, not individuals.

Costs 1000$ to buy a modded thinkpad with 8th gen CPU. Put 200 more grab latest T14 maxed out.

Rocking a T440p since the beginning of 2015. Best laptop ever. But even after a few upgrades I might have to get a newer model in the near future. Would love to have a new model in the same spirit as the T440p.

For the work you've listed I'd say you should do some research and buy an older refurbished or if you take the time and patience to learn how to: fix one up yourself. Many of the Thinkpads I own are older and I paid <$100, maybe an extra bit for SSD or new battery and they would do all you listed without sweating.

Yeah that Laptop is not worth 1600 usd

Yeah no. I recommend buying a used 2-3 year old T14 Gen3-5. I just bought a used T14 Gen3 with a i7-1270P and it's more than enough.

dont buy this.

What you've described is pretty much Chromebook fare, but don't buy a Chromebook (they suck). Buy a ThinkPad, but don't go overkill. You can get an older, higher-quality laptop for much cheaper. For example, you could get an X1 Carbon Gen 11 (two years old) for around $750-$800. The X1 Carbon is pretty much the cream of the crop, so that'll combine a great price with a great experience. Plus, these things last forever, so you'll have a great laptop for the next ten years!

I recommend you check out this store on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/str/itsworthmore They've got some really good deals on ThinkPads and other business laptops. I just bought a T14 Gen 5 AMD from them

Just speaking about the screen. If you work outside the M1 screen is better brighter and so is the battery life.

If you’re inside the extra inch on the Thinkpad screen is better.

I was wondering if M1 chips provide any perf. improvement for day to day applications? I think browser apps and hardware acceleration run fine on windows. I might be wrong.

I heard some excel extension require running Excel in a VM inside mac. I am not sure if running Excel in VM on mac will degrade pref.

I bought E15 and then returned it to buy M1 Mac. E15 simply feels bad, cheap and as it will not last too long. Like, you feel that it plastic in base and keys. And also screen it too dark, I think max 300 nits

If you favor battery life, get the M1

E15 Gen 3 AMD is the newest model, and the number pad might help if your usecase involves regularly inputting numbers.

Other than that the MBA is better in every way, especially the extra screen real-estate thanks to QHD resolution will be more helpful when working with CRM and Excel.