Lot's of reviewers were running on older drivers. (Even Jarrod'sTech today) did a test between the 2 models and is still using older drivers for AMD Adrenalin (20.10.02)

Smartshift is a brand new technology that's still being optimized. I'd assume this technology is heating the system up more than it's supposed to. The cooling solution in the Dell is excellent (heatpipes, etc), so the temps shouldn't be as high as they are. It's only a matter of time until the systems starts to really shine.

Just got the 10th gen i7 10750H model with the RTX 2060. So far, the thermals are okay. JUST okay. They sometimes go into concerning territory when I'm not doing much, but other times, theres not much heat at all under load.

There isn't a clear objective answer here.

The Dell G5 15 SE has fairly underwhelming cooling that seems to be optimized to keep the chips running in the 85-100C range, under load (gaming). This seems to be by design (balancing weight/cost/noise), but there is certainly an argument to be made that this is a "bad" design (particularly in regards to the longevity of the laptop). High temps may be within spec for the CPU/GPU, but it can't be "good" for them (let alone for all the other components in direct contact with the cooling solution).

My unit is going to be delivered in a couple days and I intend to investigate a bit before I return it. The videos and reviews I've seen indicate that the issue is fundamental to the heatsink design (only one fairly narrow fin stack per fan), but I'm going to try a few things to try to improve the cooling. I noted in various videos and pictures that these units aren't pumping much hot air out under load and that there is a fairly large gap between the fan exhaust and the heatsink fin stacks that is usually closed with tape on other gaming laptops. I am wondering if that will help direct airflow where it is needed most. Others have tested thermals with the bottom panel completely removed, with almost no change in temps, so it's not an air intake issue.

https://imgur.com/nzJGzQP

It's also possible that there will be significant improvements with power shift that will help a little, but you can tell just by looking at the cooling solution that it is not optimal. It feels a little like Dell contractually locked down powershift for the rest of the year just so they wouldn't get egg on their face when their competitors put out a competing powershift laptop that blew the G5 15 SE out of the water (with a robust cooling solution that let these chips stretch their legs more, and necessarily improved the longevity and reliability of the device).

On a side note... that hinge design is probably bad news over the long-term. You will need to get used to opening the lid only from the center or you will probably (eventually) break something from torsion.

Literally every 9th gen i7 high performance laptop gets to 90 degrees and more out of the box. Mine is undervolted, repasted, has cooling mods and is capped to 3.5ghz and still reaches 80-90 degrees on heavy combined gpu/cpu load (Bf1 for example).

Other than than that it performs really well for a laptop I got for around 1k. This is the rtx 2060 model. Gpu stays cool btw (70 degrees full load).

Jarrod's Tech has reviewed the SE pretty extensively including the thermal performance if you haven't seen it already:

https://www.youtube.com/c/JarrodsTech/videos

given how expensive the laptop is, it's pretty non-negotiable at this point to get a cooling pad to protect your device as HEAT is the biggest killer of gaming laptops - I use the Klim turbofrost.

but if you don't go the cooling pad route - just prop up your laptop on the backside with a fan, book, etc as the intake is at the bottom of the laptop and will allow the laptop to take in more air.

also adjust your fan curves- either through armourycrate or (G-Helper which is highly recommended)

my laptop runs cold while internet scrolling and on youtube.

For me, my Intel G16 model is very nice even at load it doesn't feel hot.The CPU hovers around 75C to 85C. I do use a laptop stand and have G Helper installed so that definitely improves my thermals.

For light use, you will feel nothing at all. My G16 is cold when I'm in class taking notes so you should be perfectly fine.

Totally fine with light tasks like Internet and basic processes.

An absolute furnace when under load. Literally hot to the touch.

The G16 with the Intel Core Ultra CPU gets a bit hotter than usual ultrabooks. But the AMD HX370 version of the G16 runs just as cool as a macbook. Both models do get extremely hot under heavy load but that's pretty much the case with every high-power laptop in existence.

I also have a G5 5000 desktop with very similar specs to yours and I was one of those who posted in that thread on the Dell site you linked to. What you are experiencing is normal for this particular PC--don't bother trying to find something "wrong" with it (other than Dell's design and CPU cooler selection). No BIOS upgrade is going to solve your issues, only upgrading the case fan and CPU cooler will do that.

I know you're leery of working inside your computer, but I recommend you go ahead and do it or find a way to live with it as is--those are your options. Don't worry--before I replaced the CPU cooler and case fan on my G5, I had never done anything more than add RAM inside my previous computers. Just read that thread you posted from start to finish, and read this one, too: https://www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops/XPS-8940-Heatsink-replacement/td-p/7660682/page/3

Go slow, watch YouTube videos of how to do things, read the manual for the CPU cooler you choose, and follow all the steps.

If you want, you can start by replacing the case fan with a Noctua NF-A9 and see if that helps you enough. If that's not good enough for you, go ahead and install the original case fan in the front to suck air in. Again, go slow, read the two threads, and then see if that does the trick for you. If it doesn't, then go ahead and replace the CPU cooler. That's the one you're probably most concerned about tackling, so leave it for last. If at any point you have doubts or questions, stop and ask here or on the Dell site--don't forge ahead lest you end up screwing something up.

Oh, and if you decide to do both at once, change the case fan before changing the CPU cooler. You won't have enough room to work in the case if you do it the other way around.

Here's a link to the Noctua case fan: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RUZ059O

And here's a link to the Noctua NH-U9S CPU cooler that I ended up using: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TBHYYFK

I chose that cooler because it didn't need to be modified in any way and it didn't generate BIOS errors. It's more expensive than some of the other coolers mentioned in the threads, but is easy to install, performs better than the others, and has a quieter fan. I'm glad I made the mods I did--my CPU never goes above 78C now, even when stress testing it for hours. My GPU also stays a lot cooler, even under max load, and the noise level of the PC is much lower overall.

Note, I did not install the original case fan in the front--I went straight to the CPU cooler after changing the case fan. I may install the case fan later on, but for now I'm good.

What do people think about the Dell G5 with the mods after?

I belive this will help! I just got my new G5 and noticed the temperature issue right away... I have ordered a Noctua NH-U9s and two noctua fans to add in the front and back of the PC... I think this will be enough to drop the temperature significantly.

I have the same computer and mine also runs very hot. The fact that it only has one case fan and then a bad cpu cooler does not help. I would recommend getting an upgraded cpu cooler and that should help

My resting CPU temps are around 40C. As for different coolers, you can try the Vetroo V5, which is about $30 in the US. Here's a link to a Dell forum post where someone installed it in an XPS 8940 (which has almost the same chassis and mobo as the G5 5000): https://www.dell.com/community/XPS-Desktops/XPS-8940-Better-cooler/m-p/7846134/highlight/true#M59499

Hello, please search for Dell Power Manager from the Start menu. Select the Thermal management option and set it to "Cool" or "Optimized" If you do not have the application installed, please follow this link to install the services- https://dell.to/2UcNzD5 Then, test the system and check the performance. Please send us the system information (Service Tag and registered owner name) via a private note so that we can assist you further.^ Diksha

on an xps 9560, had the same issue a few days back, had to downgrade the thermal management framework and now its fine.

I've got one of these with a ryzen 9 5900 and a 3070. I've never had any issues. I use a cooling pad though, just a $30 one.

You might try reapplying your thermal paste and get a see cooling pad like the llano before replacing your current laptop.

it is a protection feature, especially if the temp spikes hard and it decided it isn't on the safe temps anymore

if you have that particular model, its been years and when does the last time it had proper internal maintainance and care like more or less time to deep clean the heatsinks, the fan inside and out and replace the thermal compounds.

Here is a vid on how to repaste and clean your laptop

And here is my guide with the thermal compound:

FOR CPU AND GPU SILICON CHIPS:

ideally use Phase Change Thermal Interface Materials like: PTM7950, Thermal Grizzly PhaseSheet, Thermalright Helios as these are the best in thermals and longetivity

if you can't grab those, get viscous thick pastes with good conductivity and able to withstand multiple heat cycles like by experience the following are what I use: Kold-01, Maxtor CTG10, DOWSIL TC-5888, AMeCh SGT-4, Cooler Master Mastergel Maker, Thermal Grizzly Duronaut. As these do not pump out easily for this kind of application unlike the not ideal Arctic MX-series (like MX-5, MX-5, MX-6) or do not dry or deteriorate easily with multiple heat cycles unlike the Thermal Grizzy Kryonaut which by experience the performance drops easily after couple of months if the paste is always subjected to cycles of high temp.

FOR VRMS and VRAMS

Which you laptop uses, I usually go with Upsiren UTP-8 or Upsiren U6 Pro if it is the putty, (also a valid replacement for thermal pads, but do not replace thermal putty for pads as putty is more versatile with tolerances)

Laptops dont just do this out of the box, all gaming laptop will eventually experience this if you never clean the fans

Try solving your overheating problem before you get a different laptop. U can try repasting, cleaning, and elevating your laptop to get cooler temps.

Shutdown from overheating is a feature my guy

I have the 285H and 5080 combo. It gets warm, but doesn't overheat. I play Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, Fortnite, and Sid Meyers Civilization. They all get the GPU going, and I run ray tracing in all with at or very near max settings. I'm okay with 100fps I don't need 240. Anyway, it runs good, doesn't overheat though it does get hot as is expected. And if you want a small, thin and light laptop with oomph, there's not many other choices (even MSI Stealth AI 16 is bigger).

I’m in India have the same model. Works great. No high temps just yet. Get the llano cooling pad though. If you’re paying 3.5 l might as well spend 10 k on a good quality cooling pad

Hey, I have the 185H 4090 model from previous year and Id say its not worth the trouble.

Some people here claim they have no thermal issues (max 80 cpu temp!) and many claim otherwise (constant 95 degree). The best explanation would be Asus different production lines and differences in the patches. You can purchase a refundable one and stress test it to check your case and luck and then decide to return or keep it. Also modern coolers like Razer may help but i haven’t tried one personally yet

I’ve measured the temps of each performance profile at around 33:00 in my review: https://youtu.be/Kz1vI2uUhLw?si=crZ375ZMpkFj0mj6

TLDR: they’re just fine

From my usage it's not too bad, CPU temps will Max out at around 85-87°C while GPU maxed out around 65-70°C. I'd say that's good enough for a laptop.

The g 15 has better thermals than the asus. If your choice is between the 2 i would go dell

I bought a Dell G15 5520 i7 12700h with 3060 at the beginning of the year and the CPU is hitting 95c with Intel's XTU util saying CPU throttling [YES] whilst running the utils benchmark.

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I'm not happy with those temps tbh and info on it is sketchy or my frustration at not finding a means to control it is making me feel there is a lack of info

your nation? i believe there might be deals going on with dell g15 and hope you can get with rtx 3060 as its on sale in my shitty nation i believe your nation to be better than mine

dell g15 and omen 15 budget king

So Idk about the G 15 but almost every sing Asus Tuf Gaming laptop has 1 common issue that they can get so hot at times (even while running 1080p) that in the case of the f15 it has a history of heating through its own keyboard.

I just got my g16. Loaded up destiny and got jumpscared by the fans. I have similar graphical settings in other games at a 80 frame cap and the fans never get this loud. I think destiny 2 is just poorly optimized lol.

Why the hell are you using the turbo profile?

I don't know about the 2024 version but the 2023 version there is probably only 1 FPS difference between balanced and turbo so why even use turbo? It just screws with the temperatures and throttling and substantially shortens its life.

It's actually normal, as long the GPU doesn't reach above 85c you're good

Also make sure to wash it with soap and water /s

It is normal

It's normal for Zephyrus laptops to run hot.

It's a thin laptop chassis, there's not enough room for good thermals.

Limiting the battery charge to 80% will prolong the battery life significantly if plugged in most of the time.

your cooling system got more heat capacity but the heat transfer rate out of your system still be limit by 2 fans. Try to run until the whole system saturated and tell me temp, i has done the same mod (add more heatsinks and heat pipes), it cooler when idle but almost nothing change when everything running in full power

awesome.

where did u get the heatsink tho?

i am thinking abt doing the same to my gf63 thin as well

If you find mx6 pumps out over time I highly recommend the phase change pads either from thermal grizzly or a valid source for ptm 7950

True, no need to worry about it falling off. The housing is pressing it down a bit. I wouldn't mind a little bulge in exchange for 15°C either. Worst case scenario, there are always tinny-tiny zip ties...

ok

have a good day.

You have this mod ?

Fr ?

Can you please provide link . Seems pretty Good to me . Will try to do the same next time I try re-pasting the thermal paste.
At first I thought what why he's applying transparent tape on the heatsink but it's copper heatsink tape