On the wiki, each character has which upgrades they need listed, but I can't seem to find a reverse listing anywhere. Is there a list or chart somewhere that I can look up a given upgrade and see who needs it and how many they need? It would be handy when trying to decide whether or not I should pick up any given upgrade that I'm offered in the various stores.

Hey all, u/ChrisBot8 here, back again to do a little deep dive on a topic I've seen going around that I think I can shine some light on. As always with these I will likely forget something, not know something, or flat-out say the wrong thing on some of these, if that happens please let me know in the comment and I'll update the post! Today I want to talk about the different ways you can make certain things more likely in Hades 2 (many of these will apply to Hades 1 too, but I am more knowledgeable on and have researched Hades 2, so that's where the focus will be). These won't make your expected outcomes happen all the time, but they will be tools you can use to make your runs more consistent. I'll divide this post into three main sections (Boons, Doors, and NPC Encounters), so if you are interested in one portion you can feel free to skip to that part. Let's get started.

Boons

In this section, I'm going to go over how choosing boons and gods will affect your ability to get other boons. Some of this might be fairly common knowledge, and some of it might be higher-level play. I'll try to order these in a least to most complex manner.

Core Boons

Hades and Hades 2 weigh giving you "core" boons above non-core boons. So if you are trying to get a specific boon that is not a "core" boon (say you want Duo or Legendary requirements, or just good secondaries like Trusty Shield) you will want to fill your core boon "slots". These slots are displayed on the left side of the screen and represent an Attack, Special, Cast, Dash, and Gain from any god (in Hades 1 Gain is replaced with Call).

Boon Requirements

Some boons require another boon to be offered. For instance, there are many boons that revolve around Wounds or Scorch (I think the two curses that have the most of these) that cannot be offered unless you have a boon that inflicts that curse. So like above, if you are searching for a specific boon, then you want to keep your eye on what boons are unlocked by others, specifically if they unlock multiple boons like boons that inflict the above curses.

The God Pool

I was unsure whether to put this one in doors or boons, but I decided to put it here as it will help you acquire a boon that you are looking for. If you don't know what the god pool is, it is the Olympian gods that you have a boon from. The game wants you to have a four god pool. It will weigh offering you boons from new gods before offering you boons from gods you already have while you do not have a full god pool. So if you are looking for a specific boon from a god that you already have and you don't have four gods it is actually optimal to take a fourth god over other rewards so that the game will offer you the god you are looking for more often.

Doors

This section will go over rerolling doors and when it is smart to do so.

Major and Minor Rewards

In Hades and Hades 2 all the room rewards are divided into two categories: Minor and Major. The Minor rewards are ones that give meta progression to the players (Ash, Bones, and Nectar in Hades 2). The Major rewards are the ones that give real value to the run (before the incantations to give the minor rewards value as well). As far as rerolls go, Minor rewards cannot be rerolled into a Major reward and vice versa.

Mini Boss Doors

Mini Boss Doors can only offer non-Hemes boons. This means if you reroll them you are going to get another Olympian, and it is likely to be one already in your god pool if it wasn't before.

Ephrya

Ephyra rewards are limited to Boons, Hammers, Selene, Double Max Health Upgrades, and Double Max Magick Upgrades. These doors are great for rerolling because of two things 1) they are limited to a smaller pool than normal Major Rewards doors are 2) a bunch of the things the doors could be are on the other doors of Ephyra. Basically, the game doesn't like offering the same thing on two different doors, so if you take all the boons of one god in the Ephyra room, but leave all the other gods and rewards, you are much likelier to roll into that god because there are a bunch of blockers for what that door could be rolled to.

NPC Encounters

This section will go over requirements to get NPC encounters, sometimes called "skip rooms". I would consider this the highest level of RNG manipulation in Hades, and only really useful if you are speed running or playing on very high fear. That said, in either of those cases I would consider this knowledge a prerequisite for doing well.

Artemis, Aracne Eggs, Nemisis, and Athena

I grouped all of these NPCs together because they all have the same requirements for showing up except on different biomes. All of them require the chamber count to be four or greater in the current biome, and the room reward to be "non-menu". Non-menu means the reward from the room cannot bring up a menu to choose its options (examples of menu rewards are Poms, Boons, Hammers, and Selene). The main difference between these NPCs is where they can show up. Artemis can show up in Erebus, Oceanus, and Ephyra. Aracne Eggs can show up in Erebus and Oceanus. Nemisis can show up in Erebus, Oceanus, and the Fields (where her chamber count is set to 1 because of how the fields work). Athena can only (naturally) show up in Olympus.

How Doors Work in Olympus

Doors in Olympus have an "indoor" and an "outdoor" designation, and some rooms and NPC encounters can only be accessed through one or the other. For instance, the mid-shop will only ever be offered on an outdoor door. You can tell if a door is indoor or outdoor based on if it launches you up in the air (outdoor) or if it is a normal door (indoor). I put this here because it's very important for the next section.

Icarus, Haracles, and the Olympus Foutain Chamber

Icarus and Haracles both have standard rules for their encounters like above, but since they also appear in Olympus and have rules around that I wanted to group them together. Icarus can show up in the Ryft and his rules for showing up there are a chamber count of three or greater in the biome and a non-menu room. Heracles can show up in Ephyra and his conditions for doing so seem to be that the room reward is not Selene (that's it).

In Olympus, their conditions change quite a bit. First, Sticky Ic can now only show up after four or later chambers, and Heracles can only show up after five or later chambers. Second, they have indoor and outdoor requirements. Icarus can only show up on outdoor rooms (to drop his bombs), and Heracles and Fountain Chambers can only happen in indoor rooms. So if you are looking for a skip room chamber five or later and haven't encountered Heracles you are slightly more likely to do so by taking indoor chambers.

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Anyway, that's all I have off the top of my head, but as always I almost certainly forgot something or got something wrong. Please let me know if I did! Also let me know if there's another topic you think would be useful. Looking at the code is pretty fun for me, and I'd like to research things that are useful for the community.

Like the title states I’m starting over new . I’ve played the game before and maxed most heroes before the game was delisted. Now I no longer have access to that account. Is there a walkthrough or guide to help upgrade characters the quickest way possible to beat the repetitive factor? Thanks in advance

I have just gotten hades and don’t rly know what’s up not searching for meta tips just general tips UPDATE: thanks for all the advice