Post them here 😂

Might try that. Thanks

Generally, they don’t.

They rely on the trustworthiness of sourcing. Yeah they may get burned the odd time, but when you’re dealing with such high volumes of in/out like Bob’s watches, it’s impossible to thoroughly vet each and every watch that passes through your hands.

They don’t but if someone comes to them with a naked watch( no box, paper, missing links) and willing to accept a lowball offer. The reputable one will pass on the deal.

In offer to avoid buying stolen watches, I suggest anyone to buy full set.

They probably don’t.

Z362462 is stolen 

If a high price watch such as a Rolex is stolen and the owner retains invoice and papers (or anything with the serial number on it), and they put up a police report that includes the serial number, you could check for the serial number with your local police force (not only dealers, even you yourself could check that). Some dealers might do that, but it's a highly specific scenario and there's still no guarantee if the police report was issued in another country or State.

Now, there are some very special cases where a dealer, and even a final buyer might get out of any problems from an stolen watch if the seller and dealer did the correct paperwork for it, the only one getting in trouble is the seller. But this depends on local law, if there is one, and it's more of a safe guard than a solution if problems arise.

This is not to say you should be all fine and dandy with buying from any dealer that does paperwork, nor that simply checking in with the police does it, just an explanation of how some scenarios might work, even if a watch was stolen at some point.

If you can get the watch from an authorized dealer with box and papers, it's always better. Congrats on the new watch!

If possible yes. Tudor is easily replicated much like Rolex. Depending on the quality of the Rep they get extremely close to genuine!

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Can't you just bring it into a boutique to get it verified?

Okay so why are you asking a bunch of strangers? Take it to an AP boutique or to a certified watchmaker. I mean surely you can do that if you’re spending tens of thousands. Jesus Christ man.

Why are you asking after you have already bought it? If you are spending 10s of thousands of dollars on a watch do your due diligence upfront BEFORE buying. Also, always buy the seller not the watch.

Looks genuine from the pictures. You can also measure the thickness with a calliper to be sure. All fakes of the 37mm model are thicker.

Just compared your pictures to my 15450. Looks legit. I bought mine at the AD last year.

Hello Stranger,

Depends on the kind of vintage, the brand and what kind of watch you wish to own. I live in vintage watches; they're my jam. I buy mostly from eBay watches that are sold as-is and I service them. (Hobbyist, not a watch maker.) I just finished servicing a 1940's (maybe 50's) Bulova watch with a 14k rose gold case and a movement that looks factory fresh. It was amazing! In only paid about $150 total and I found the watch on eBay. But that's a watch folks aren't looking to counterfeit or it's easy to spot counterfeits. Vintage Hamiltons, Gruens, Bulovas, some Girard-Perregauxs, among others--these older watches are less likely to be false because they're plentiful, relatively cheap, and parts can be sourced for them or their information readily online.

I look for reliable sellers on eBay and focus on purchases that include good lighting, several shots, and they must show the movement (if they can't and I still want the watch, it either has to be cheap or the seller willing to discount it, heavily).

You're likely in a different boat where you want a full-serviced, ready-to-wear watch. Authenticity checks matter more for Omegas, Rolexes, and the other well-known brands where people are willing to build fakes or swap parts and try to sell a cheaper model as their more expensive counterpart. If your fear is keeping you from buying a watch, look for established businesses with return policies and reviews of good customer service. They can be on eBay, or Chrono24, or in rare cases, a brick and mortar shop like Cool Vintage Watches in Missouri (they have a website!). You'll pay more for peace of mind and service costs, but your risk is lower.

If you want the cheap finds of fabulous watches, you have to be willing to put in a lot of work: looking at estates, constantly checking websites for sales, going to thrift shops, and that comes with the added risk of being duped or getting a dud watch that's going to cost a lot to get up and running. A "ticking/running" watch does not mean a serviced one.

Sorry for the long ramble. Do you know the kind of vintage watches you want?

Best regards,
Sparky

I’m fortunate to have a brick-and-mortar store nearby that specializes in vintage watches, sales and repair. We’ve bought a few off ebay with good and bad results. Antique stores can be fun to hunt through but either someone has too much value assigned to a watch or you find one for a steal because they don’t know.

I have never bought from Catawiki. What scared me off that site was a couple vintage 6139 seikos that had blessed by their expert and were, shall we say, incorrect.

Ive had better luck buying from Japanese sellers via BUYEE or from known individuals that frequent watch discussion forums like thewatchsite and wristsushi

YMMV

Addendum: certain English speaking Japanese sellers/websites are reputable. Tokeimedic.com is great. If you want near NOS and Museum quality and are willing to spend, thetokeiclub.jp has jawdropping stuff. There are others that specialize in vintage King Seiko or Grand Seiko

Chrono24 certified sellers with good reviews.

I stopped buying from online dealers 15 years ago . I do lots of walking in jewelry and gold buyers district , thrift stores and antique shops .

Also place small adds in the news papers older folks read I always hunt for one or first owner watches .

As of authenticity matching patina is everything.

On this particular watch, the movement looks legit.

If you are into watches and TAG-Heuer specifically, having seen many in person and legitimate ones on the Internet, forums and other "good" sites, obvious fakes are just that - obvious. You'll know.  Mostly horrible dials, logos, layout, text, etc. So easy to tell. 

It's the really good fakes that are tough to tell especially when photos are bad, out of focus or too far away. If they are difficult to tell in person, that doubles or triples the difficulty with bad photos. 

Easy fakes are just that - easy to tell. You'll know one when you see it.

It depends on the model - and varies a lot - but can be as obvious as a solid caseback where it should be exhibition, or as subtle as spacing on the bezel markings.

However, a single flaw can be put down to the image quality/angle/lighting and a lot of the time it's many known flaws as evidence that it is fake.

I believe Timex has an app that can be used to authenticate after you scan the QR code on the back of the watch.

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Check if the back plate has serial no.

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