TL;DR
Battery Charge Management
One effective way to extend the lifespan of your Dell laptop's battery is by managing its charge levels. Keeping the battery charged between 40% and 80% can help reduce wear over time [1]. This can be achieved through settings in the BIOS or using the Dell Optimizer app. Disabling features like ExpressCharge can also slow down the charging process, which may benefit battery longevity
[1:8].
Power Management Settings
Adjusting power management settings can significantly impact battery life. Limiting the CPU clock speed to around 50% of its base can reduce power consumption [3:1]. Additionally, setting a lower display refresh rate and turning off turbo boost can help conserve energy during less demanding tasks like browsing or watching videos
[3].
Hardware Considerations
The type of processor and graphics card in your laptop can greatly affect battery life. High-performance processors like the H series are designed for intensive tasks and consume more power compared to U series processors [5:2]
[5:3]. If battery life is a priority, consider models with lower power components or opt for laptops with larger capacity batteries, such as those offering 97 watt-hour options
[5:3].
Environmental Factors
External conditions like temperature and humidity can also influence battery performance. Manufacturers often base their battery life estimates on optimal conditions, which might not reflect real-world usage [4:2]. Ensuring your laptop is used in a cool environment can help maintain battery efficiency.
Software Tools
Utilizing software tools like Dell's power management applications can provide insights into battery health and allow you to set charging limits [2:1]. These tools can be useful for monitoring battery cycles and adjusting settings to optimize performance based on your usage patterns.
By implementing these strategies, you can improve the battery life of your Dell laptop and ensure it remains efficient for longer periods.
I heard that keeping your battery levels between 40 and 80% is the optimal solution. And I believe there are two ways to activate the battery limiter one from the BIOS and the other from the Dell optimizer app. Which one would you recommend? btw I've a Latitude 7420.
Unless you are using the computer a LOT on battery, the Default, Primarily on AC charging setting is the best for battery life. I use a Latitude 5520 every day (Docked primarily) and have no significant battery degradation.
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I only use it on battery to preserve it so I charge it from 40 to 80 most of the time and when I checked the app it's set to dynamic charge policy and it chose expresscharging. Is that bad practice?
It really depends on your use case. There is no right answer as batteries degrade over time regardless (but I do have some batteries 27 years old that still work). The Power Manager within Windows should mirror the BIOS settings, if does not you will need to reinstall one of the system drivers.
If you plan on running it on AC power 100% of the time, then the lower the better. Ideally 40% or so but Dell does not offer this, so 55% is good enough. Some Dell batteries experience drift, that is where it may say 80% but in reality it has been self discharging and is closer to 60%. It will still work but on battery power it may drop to 7% when it reaches the low voltage threshold while displaying a higher number. In such cases fully charging it and running it down below the charge threshold once a month is recommended. Sure, a battery only has 300 cycles but 1 cycle per month (or rather, half cycle) would still net between 25-50 years before reaching the warranty count.
40% to 80% is good if you use your computer on battery power fairly often. Drift should not occur with consistent usage.
One of the other ways to extend the lifetime is to keep the battery discharge low. In other words, running a laptop between 3W discharge to 15W of discharge will net more reliable battery life than 3W to 40W, especially as the battery ages. Exceeding 1C, or say 35W with a currently 35Whr battery, can damage the battery since laptop batteries aren't designed for this.
what does the W stand for here? watts?, whoa would love if you could elaborate more on the very last paragraph, thanks you so much.
One of the other ways to extend the lifetime is to keep the battery
discharge low. In other words, running a laptop between 3W discharge to
15W of discharge will net more reliable battery life than 3W to 40W,
especially as the battery ages. Exceeding 1C, or say 35W with a
currently 35Whr battery, can damage the battery since laptop batteries
aren't designed for this.
W stands for watts, yes. Whr is Watt hours. Do keep in mind that 3W and 15W are arbitrary numbers, but they're more inline with my U series low power processors.
One of the ways battery charging and discharging is measure is by the letter C, or charge rate. 1C means that, if you're using a battery that's 3.8V 2A (2,000mAH), it is either discharging or charging at 7.6W. Some cell phones will put in a ton of burst/peak power to make their devices really snappy. At a battery that's 100% health, it can do so reliably. I believe it's not recommended because it's not a consistent discharge. When the cell ages and the device attempts to pull that much power it will either slow down or typically reach the shutdown voltage and turn off; even if it has enough charge to last for hours.
Laptops are in a similar boat. If you can operate the computer at .3C or less, i.e. 15W on a 50Whr battery, you'll get a lot more longevity than say 40W, even if it's for a split second. As the battery ages laptop batteries can pull more than 1C without issue but doing so can damage the battery (given it's aged already) because it's not designed for such power draw. RC helicopters and cars use high discharge batteries that are designed to pull 5C or greater reliably, laptops not so much.
I don't know the exact reason why peak/burst power is bad for laptop batteries, but I have seen it cause premature battery failure on iPods and cell phones.
Thank u for everything one last thing how do I keep low discharge aka from 3w to 15w.
Those were random figures based on my 7290, I don't think your Latitude has any dedicated graphics (i.e. nvidia) either. I normally throttle the processor under battery power, but that's a stance many don't agree with.
Thank u so much. Then given I'd like to use my laptop on battery the best way is to keep it between 40 to 80 and also disable Expresscharging and switch to AC power mode to charge slowly for better longevity?
You're welcome. On my current Dells I couldn't enable ExpressCharge and a charging threshold at the same time, but yes I would leave ExpressCharge off.
AFAIK on my systems the AC only power scheme doesn't actually change the charge rate. It's 0.8C (or 80% rated capacity) with ExpressCharge on and about 0.4C (or 40% rated capacity) with it off. I just use custom.
I know you posted a year ago but I reply more for the posterity to people googling it like I just done.
I just replaced a 2016 battery on my Dell laptop. She was still able to hold a charge, but with health at 25%, error message at each start up from the Dell manager and a running time to about 15-20 min, barely enough to move it safely in the house, it was time for a new one.
I don't know how its possible, but I was able to buy a Dell original one made in 08/24 for a computer made in 2014, I guess that Lattitude serie is still popular.
Anyway, my point is, I was able to make a battery last 8.5 years (and still working) by never, ever let it go under 10% SOC, I program the computer parameters to shut down at 12% no matter what.
For the rest, it was in express mode all these year with no limit to 100%
And used around 80%, maybe 90% of the time on AC.
You can try a chargie. I bought one and it let me automatically stop charging my phone before it reaches 100%, allowing you to set a maximum charge limit (for example, 80%). This helps reduce battery wear over time since keeping your phone at 100% constantly can degrade the battery faster.
Now is available only for phone, but from what I understood it will be available soon for laptops also.
How did you manage the battery before?
Pluggin the charger in and out XD
Does your Dell laptop have the power management software where it'll let you set limits on charging?
Now that these gas guzzling beasts have been around for a while, I was wondering if there have been any tips and tricks to maximize the battery life on these things. On average, throttlestop has reported something like 15~20W when browsing, which generally doesn't translate to awe-inspiring battery life.
So, have we found any methods to gimp the performance on battery so that we can watch youtube, reply to emails, and use microsoft office for the longest amount of time possible?
On my Blade 16, I had reduced monitor to 60 hz, turned off turbo boost, undervolt, 50% brightness, and turned off accessory lighting while on battery.
can also edit power plan to limit them to like 50% of their base clock, around 1 GHz. Someone mentioned setting a very low power limit with some program - not sure if this is just equivalent to limiting the clock speed though.
I have a work provided Dell and I am super unhappy with the battery life. I have the smaller 41Wh battery, and I understand they gave the reviewers the larger capacity battery. The issue that I have is that all the reviews and Dells website advertised anywhere from 8-11 hours of battery life. If we go with the low end, and do some math, I should be able to expect over 5 hours of battery life. When it was brand new I never even got 2 hours. This wilas with brightness almost all the way down, connected to wireless, taking notes in a meeting with occasional web browsing. I struggle to get over an hour now. How the hell is this thing so bad? I have been campaigning for my company to move to literally anyone else over this crap. I have found other accounts that are similar, but never a solution or even a reason for the discrepancy. Anyone know more?
All the manufacturers battery life predictions are based on optimal conditions. It could be that where you’re using It is very hot or very humid or there are some other environmental factor that is degrading battery performance. This is an industry situation that wouldn’t really be resolved by going with another manufacturer
Basically, if you cut the projected battery life in half for a new battery and then in half again after a year, that’s going to be fairly accurate. Again, this is not Dell, this is the whole industry.
Alls I can say is I mis my 8th gen Lenovo P52s. With the extended battery I could get an actual 14 hours of brightness 75%, actual work. I bought it when my previous company rotated it out, and I still use it. It now gets about 4 hours of battery as the battery is completely trashed, but it still beats my Dell.
You got as you noted the extended battery.
That's an 11th gen processor laptop, is the battery new or still the one from 2020?
Even when new the 11th gen processor was power hungry.
It's the original. It has spent most of its life docked on account of it's horrible battery performance from new. It have been cycled about a dozen times. Brand new it would get close to 2 hours. Now it gets 10 to 20 min less. I feel like the processor was a turd from the beginning, which is not Dells fault. My problem is how far from the truth Dell's numbers are. If you made a specialized cut down version of Linux with no GUI and a driver to manage the fan as well as a hard lock on the lowest frequency the processor is capable of, then you closed the lid during the test, you MIGHT get the low end of their reported range.
The latitude models can have a wildly varied processor model, anywhere from an ultra low power all the way to the H series which is essentially a desktop processor. I'm sure they base their numbers on the slowest/lowest power processor.
Most laptop / notebook batteries are only rated for about 500 cycles, FWIW. After that, they lose about half capacity.
If I take my shoes off I can count how many times I have cycled the battery tbh.
you can check how much the battery has worn out. But I have used 5420 before, with a 41Wh battery, it lasts around 4-5 hours for web browsing with a new battery.
Without knowing the exact CPU, I have a Latitude with an i5-1145G7, which is on the CPU list for the 5420, that is rated for 25 hours with roughly 106Whr worth of batteries. That is also including it is set to cTDP up on the firmware which is not present on the 5420.
The thing to consider, ignoring the possibility the computer boosts on battery power, is that under normal use a 18 watt CPU with a 41Whr battery is only going to get 2 hours when Wi-Fi, RAM, LCD and SSD power consumption is accounted for at moderate utilization. To get 8 hours, or rather 5 when scaling down, would mean the CPU may need to be underclocked as well a battery efficient SSD (as Windows accesses them often).
Most computers that I have that get the rated battery life idle at 1.6 watts while connected to a network, though I can get close to 1.1 watts with all wireless off and the screen backlight set to minimum.
This past month I purchased a dell mobile precision laptop (15 inch i think) with an i7 13800h, rtx ada 2000, and 32gb of ram. I'm starting to use the laptop and notice the battery isn't nearly what was shwon on the pletheral of youtube and online reviews. Is there ways you would reccomen3ed optimizing? Further I've not used it much so don't know if the battery is just getting use to everything.
A 5-digit H series is a performance processor and may be drawing around 50 watts, whereas a i7 U series only draws 15 watts.
Combined with a video card, you will struggle to get a long battery life. There is a 97 watt hour battery available for precisions that may give you more life (unless you already have it)
Is there a way to check if I do? Also I picked this one with an H processor due to price as I got a really good deal on it on the outlet with 3 years of support that’s why I didn’t get something like the Dell inspiring that had the u for cheaper
If it is a 5680, then the processor is 45 watts.
There’s nothing wrong with an H processor as long as the chassis can cool it and you are close to power.
5000 series Precisions are made for this.
Under sustained load, you may want a laptop stand / cooling stand so it doesn’t overheat and throttle.
Battery is either 66 Whr or 99.5 Whr. Should be on the docco you got with it.
Generally speaking processors have different power states. You can reduce this power at the cost of performance.
While some Dell Precisions can get decent battery life the consumption is going to be higher than an Ultrabook. I would need to know the model number to glean into the numbers you have mentioned.
did you figure this thing out, i have a precision 5680 as well with that same setup expect 16gb ram and a 1080p oled, my battery sometimes drains like crazy
It’s kinda off and on, I usually put it in lower power mode and the battery is okay cuz in mobile I don’t need too much power. And by off and on I mean the battery can be better and worse sometimes, tbf I’ve barely used it and have been using my current laptop i use like a desktop. Imma use it as my main when college starts if ud want me to get back to u then
So, i recently posted a few days ago about the battery issue i was having and i got the old battery replaced with new one. Any tips to follow before i start using the laptop with a new battery so that the it will have best battery life?
for best and longest battery life and health:reduce heavily the performance of your laptop by using a powersave mode from your bios,set up a charging threashold lower than the full 100% capacity and use like 50% as a start for charging,always use battery save mode when on battery,reduce the screen brightness,you can set in windows different settings when your laptop isn't plugged in and if you have a graphics card make windows use the igpu in the most used apps instead.
I didnt get what you mean by "set up a charging threashold lower than the full 100% capacity and use like 50% as a start for charging" can you explain?
in the bios you should be able to set 2 custom charging limits: min and max,theres a custom option available
If you have the laptop plugged in constantly disconnect the battery. Charge it occasionally
I currently have a 2021 XPS 15 9510 with an OLED screen that I use for school and casual gaming. A lot of users of my model complain of short battery life, so here are MY tips that completely made a night-and-day difference for my battery life WITHOUT losing performance. I now get 6 hours watching videos on YouTube at 4K, at FULL BRIGHTNESS.
Check your battery health, sometimes the battery from the factory is defective. You can do this by running the “powercfg /batteryreport” command in CMD prompt, and dividing the current capacity by the designed capacity. If it’s less than 100% out of the box, send it to Dell for Warranty replacement, you paid for it new, so you deserve a new battery.
Clean Install Windows 11, and by that I mean completely reinstall it from a USB drive, and delete ALL partitions. This removes the bloatware that Dell puts in there, which uses quite a bit of CPU power in the background, you don’t need 90% of that crap. This will also free up some RAM and storage for you.
Disable BitLocker and Killer Network Service if you don’t need it. Killer Service is especially a big CPU and RAM hog, and it caused more problems for me for connection with than without.
If you have the OLED screen, USE DARK MODE, on everything! I cannot stress this enough. Install a chrome extension that makes every site you visit dark. The one I use is called Dark Reader. It lets you crank the screen to max brightness with very minimal battery life impact, unlike light mode which will eat through your battery even on 80% brightness.
Install ThrottleStop, set the mode to “power saver”, and check “disable turbo boost”. This will limit the voltage and speed of the CPU when on battery, which helps a LOT! You don’t need more speed when doing productivity tasks at school or work. When plugged in and gaming use the performance mode.
If you have a discrete GPU, in my case RTX 3050 Ti, make sure it’s off for anything non-gaming or non-3D related. Like actually off off. You can do this in NVidia control panel.
Set the laptop to HIBERNATE on lid close, not sleep. There is a big difference. Hibernate takes a bit more to boot up, but less than from shut down and takes much less power than sleep. Its also more secure because the Lock Screen pops up on boot up.
Make sure your keyboard backlight is off when it’s not dark around you.
Keep the battery cool when doing heavy tasks like gaming by using a cooling pad or elevating the back so the intakes have air and the hot exhaust can rise up. High heat permanently destroys lithium ion batteries, and LiPo batteries like the ones found in laptops are especially sensitive to heat. Every few years, put on new thermal paste (Gelid GC Extreme is a great option). Never game on battery power alone.
Set your battery to charge to a maximum of 90%, and don’t let it drop below 10%. This gives you more room to work with than 80-20 while still not charging to full and discharging to empty.
Do ALL these things and I guarantee you will see a huge difference in your battery life.
This is some very interesting recommendations which come at a good time for me since I'm having battery issues with the kind of bizarre XPS 16 (refurbished) which Dell sent me in replacement for my beloved but faulty XPS 15. But I have a question for you: I'm aware of the Killer interface for network but had not realized it was something that I could separate from network operations as a whole. Do you know what it actually does? Besides bothering me about things it says I ought to do like buy a new router? So it has nothing to do with the operation of tcpip and so on?
From what I can tell, I’m pretty sure it’s just some bloatware that the wifi card comes that is supposed to prioritize some of the incoming bandwidth for certain tasks like gaming or streaming movies, but I had only positive experiences disabling it and lots of negative experiences with it enabled, so I disabled it. You don’t need it for wifi connectivity anyway because Intels own drivers handle that.
You make good points about the Intel drivers handling the whole thing, though I do believe that "Killer" is an Intel trademark in this regard, so it's their own brand of bloatware. So did you just disable the services with" Killer" in their names?
wow. sounds good. that report has a ton of daily detail, which i assume is not generally useful. basically, we want to compare "design capacity" (intended), vs "full charge" (what we're getting now).
we want to look at the last line in the report?
Active | Connected Standby |
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3:26:13 | 19:18:39 |
83 % / 16 h |
|Active|Connected Standby| |---|---| |5:40:13|31:51:27| ||50 % / 16 h|
So what do i have left? i'm running at 50% of theoretical capacity? and 83% of what capacity?
Yes correct. You want to divide full charge capacity by design capacity, in my case 84 Wh. Run this in CMD: “powercfg /batteryreport” Then copy the HTML file path, find it and open it. Divide the full charge capacity by design capacity, multiple by 100 and you get your battery health percentage.
I owned a Dell XPS 9500 4k since 2020. It's still my daily driver. I upgraded the ram to 64gb and second SD slot 512 gb . I recently repasted the CPU and GPU , honestly it was super easy. Just followed along a youtube video. I use Throttlestop 9.2 I set the Multiplier at 20 , Disable Turbo, BD Prochot checked, Speedsep checked and C1E checked. My CPU and GPU Idles between 39 - 50 Celcius. I still can game on this laptop. Battery life is at 21% still gives me 2 hours of battery life just watching shows. I just ordered a battery for 40 bucks on ebay. I think this laptop will continue to hold up for a long time. Maybe an other five years to be honest with you.
Thermal paste on what? The battery?
Also, I recommend opening it up and dusting and cleaning it out once a year.
On the CPU and GPU dies good sir, that will keep heat away from the battery and move it towards the exhaust through the heat pipes.
Didn't realize those were exposed, I know how to do it on a desktop but is that safe to do on a laptop?
Or you could just buy a MacBook and not have to worry about it. After 3 years I finally made the switch and now my life is fire
If I wanted a MacBook I would already have a MacBook
MacBooks aren't viable if your an engineer though
Was gifted an Inspiron 13 7000 2 in 1 (7373), and while I’m really happy about getting a free laptop, the battery life is abysmal. I got about 3 and a half hours out of it just browsing chrome and watching YouTube, and that’s after undervolting the CPU. Anyone got other suggestions on what I can do to improve the battery life? This laptop is for college and having such low battery life will be a real pain in the ass for something I’ll be needing all day.
the only downfall of the 7373. I'm hoping there is a battery that has larger (even if just slightly) capacity that we can swap in. I know the ryzen version is slightly bigger.
How old is the laptop? Can you find a reading for how much battery capacity remains? After two or three years it can drop quite a bit.
In the mean time you could look into undervolting, look at what background processes are running? (Do you have MS AV as well as a third party AV installed and running?) Reducing screen brightness will also help.
Does this laptop have an HDD or SSD? Swapping an SSD for the HDD will give you a nice performance boost as well as reducing battery usage.
Thanks for all the suggestions! It's brand spanking new, was received in early June. Already undervolted, and nothing running in the background. I get 4 hours of battery life with the screen at 60%. It has an SSD. A lot of the reviews I've read about this laptop have stated that the battery life just plain sucks, so it looks like something I'll just have to live with :(
You could reduce the clock of the cpu
Good idea, I'll try that too
Hi,
We suggest doing a battery caliberation to help improving the battery life:
Remove the AC adapter from your laptop by gently pulling it out.
Power on your laptop. Allow it to run on battery power until the battery is drained and the laptop shuts down.
Plug the AC adapter into an electrical outlet. Insert the appropriate end into the your laptop.
Leave the AC adapter plugged into the laptop for eight hours to fully charge the battery. Do not use the laptop during this time.
Remove the AC adapter, turn the laptop on and allow the computer to run on battery power until the battery is drained. Repeat this process until the battery has been drained and recharged 3 to 5 times.
Let us know if you need any further assistance. Also, private message the Service Tag(Access https://dell.to/2IFHyrD to locate the Service Tag) of the system along with the registered owner's name and email address to assist you better.
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"Gaming" laptops typically don't have good battery life. You can change your power plan to the more conservative option, turn down brightness, etc.
^ This is essentially correct, pretty much all laptops (but definitely gaming ones) will throttle themselves when they are not plugged in to preserve battery life. I'm sure you can do more in your power settings but if you're looking to game or do anything even sort of intensive on the laptop it's going to chug like crazy.
If you're expecting to game unplugged...well you're simply only going to get 2-4 hours, but of course this number is meaningless without knowing specs and the game you're playing, but the point is they're not meant to be used not plugged in.
Lower screen brightness.
Limit CPU/GPU max % usage in power settings.
Turn off applications as many as possible like if you have bunch of monitoring softwares etc.
Turn off keyboard backlight as well.
Turn it off
Plug it in
I use mine on battery until it drains and then charge. Or mostly use it charged. The only way I've seen to boost battery life is replacing the battery.
I recently just got a replacement battery 2F8K3 model, and I was wondering what can I do on my end to maintain the batteries functionality.
I always keep my laptop plugged in since I no longer need it to be portable, but I still require it to be charged for windows updates. I've read that keeping it plugged in 24/7 isn't ideal, so is there a setting I can use to allow the battery to drain and charge as it needs?
I've heard the same, but not seen any real solid facts to back it up. If that were the case, just unplugging it while you're using it, and letting it discharge is an option. Or, leave it uplugged over night.
That being said, the most critical thing to avoid is completely discharging the battery. I try not to let them get below 20%. If you drain the battery completely, it looses it's ability to hold as much of a charge little by little, each time it happens.
Use Dell Power Manager and set a charging limit. Set the limit to around 40% since you primarily use it on AC. With this setting, it won't charge more than the specified amount.
how to improve battery life on Dell laptops
Here are some key considerations to improve battery life on Dell laptops:
Adjust Power Settings:
Reduce Screen Brightness:
Close Unused Applications:
Disable Bluetooth and Wi-Fi:
Limit Background Processes:
Manage Startup Programs:
Use Battery Saver Mode:
Keep Software Updated:
Check for Malware:
Consider Hardware Upgrades:
Recommendation: Implementing these tips can lead to noticeable improvements in battery life. Regularly monitoring your battery health through Dell’s built-in diagnostics can also help you identify any issues that may be affecting performance.
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