TL;DR
External Cooling Solutions
One of the simplest ways to improve laptop cooling is by using an external laptop cooling pad. These are relatively affordable and can help reduce temperatures by providing additional airflow [2:1],
[3:1]. Some users have also created custom setups with fans to direct airflow more effectively
[4:1], which can significantly lower temperatures if done correctly
[4:3].
Thermal Paste and Pads
Replacing the thermal paste with higher quality options such as liquid metal or phase change materials can improve heat transfer from the CPU and GPU [2:3],
[3:6]. However, it's important to note that not all laptops are designed to handle liquid metal, as it can spill and react poorly with aluminum components
[2:7],
[2:11]. Additionally, adding thermal pads to connect heat pipes to the back panel can enhance heat dissipation
[3:6].
Advanced Cooling Techniques
For those willing to experiment, advanced cooling methods like TEC (Thermoelectric Cooling) modules and water cooling have been discussed. While TEC modules can provide temporary cooling, they often introduce more heat into the system and may not be efficient in the long run [5:1],
[5:2]. Water cooling is another option, though it requires significant modification and might not be practical for most users
[5:3].
Undervolting
Undervolting the CPU and GPU can reduce power consumption and heat generation without sacrificing performance. This method involves adjusting the voltage settings to ensure the components run cooler [3:10]. It's a safer alternative to physical modifications and can be easily reversed if needed.
Considerations
Before attempting any modifications, it's crucial to understand your laptop's design and limitations. Not all laptops will benefit from the same cooling solutions, and some modifications may void warranties or cause damage if not executed properly. Always weigh the potential benefits against the risks and costs involved.
Laptop cooling has come a long way from back in 2017. Back then, most gaming laptops even the top end ones struggled with 65w + 115w. With only DTR size (2 inch thick) laptops could do something like 80 + 150w crossload. Now it can be done in like 16 inch laptops that ate like like the thickness and only 16 inch instead of 17 and 18 inch.
Mainly with the rise of PTM with the gen 6 legion and Vapor chamber being more accessible and cheaper to produce has helped as well.
Thing is what is next. Do you think the current temps that most high end laptops have now is enough or do you think there Is improvement needed in the cooling department. If so, what improvements can be made?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyai_kUYhLs This is next thing, but Dell bought the startup company. Imagine running on high performance model with near silent fan noise but without fans.
that doesn't increase cooling, that just makes it less noisy, which is a worthy cause but not the same as more cooling.
Liquid cooling and Liquid Metal paste like the current ultra high end units from Lenovo
There is still watercooling but that’s another item to haul around. The current pile of laptops are inching up in power requirements. If we can start moving the design of the laptop into a 2 piece setup where more cooling can be adapted to support the laptop usage.
My laptop (thinkbook 15 don't rember the exact model) has been overheating lately while playing some games I just cleaned it and I was wondering is there any way to improve cooling/airflow without destroying the case?
What I did was to put 1 or 2mm thick thermal tape onto the heat pipes so that there is contact to the base of the laptop, making the whole base pole a huge heat sink. Then I join 6 router fans 3x2 to make a monster laptop cooler to cool the entire base
hey dude, that worked?! I just bought a laptop cooler, so I could actually try this, please give me any tips on how I should go on about it!
bro if the laptop isn't made for liquid metal dont use it, laptops that support liquid metal have some things around the cpu and gpu to stop it from spilling plus LIQUID METAL IS SHIT.
Laptop cooler
So there isn't? Bc I don't want to buy a 200$laptop cooler that's only gonna run like 5° cooler when I'm trying to get a pc
Laptop coolers even high ones are only $70 bucks https://www.ietstech.com/product/iets-gt500-laptop-cooling-stand
There are laptops that do come with LM. It just takes some additional prep work to restrict the Liquid Metal to a set location and only using copper parts. LM reacts badly to aluminum.
At best u can use good quality thermal paste and cooling pad
Define overheating.
Also, what cpu does it have? Modern cpus will just run hot to keep the fans quiet
Temps go up to 90° cpu and GPU slow down so I have like 5/10sec lags with fps going down basically to 0. The fan is not a problem I set them up to always be at 100% using MSI afterburner
As long as the cpu doesn't stay at over 100°C, then it's just fine
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Not an expert but I'm sure that replacing those fans with better ones will do the trick
Yeah.. not going to happen since each laptop has vastly different fans. Replace the cooling paste for better paste or pads. You could mod the airflow (extra holes/remove parts of tape over vents. Or put a laptop cooler under it. Acer has crap cooling. Laptops are really hard to keep cool.. lots of hardware in a tiny box.
I replaced the thermal paste a month ago, and the temperatures are definitely lower than when I first bought it. I also cleaned the fans inside. But I was wondering about some non-standard options.
Welp, good thing to know since my brand new laptop is an acer, thanks for the useful advice
So care to recommend replacement fans?
Afaik each manufacturer has custom fans and there isn't a commercial solution to just swap them out for noctua or something.
It really depends on if your laptop is lucky enough to have aftermarket fans.
Idk man, it was just a random thought. I don't know that much about laptops or computers to know what's a viable upgrade and what's not, that's why I started my comment with "I'm not an expert..."
Edit: I had to correct what's in between the quotes
Replace the thermal paste and if you have an aluminium backplate, then you can add thermal pads to connect heatpipes to the backpanel
Mock up a 3D fan enclosure for the whole back. Then fit in intake and output vents.
Might look a bit odd but then again you didn't indicate what you wanted.
You’re probably better off undervolting your cpu/gpu if possible.
Laptop cooling pad!
This (hopefully) is temporary, I made it tonight. My four year old laptop has been through a lot and this is all I can do to get “cool” enough to run games at a decent frame rate let alone run at all. I also don’t want to spend money on a cooler that does the same thing and costs more if I’m getting an actual pc. Just look at the temps, I need a new thing of thermal paste but is just too much.
Hell yeah dude!
Though I would consider turning the fan around, the intakes are on the bottom of the laptop so you want the fan blowing fresh air into the box not blowing it out.
I was thinking it maybe would pull the hot air out, but I don’t have an intake fan so it’s useless. Thanks.
No, it's not useless, if you turn the fan around, it will create a higher pressure in the box that will want to escape any way it can. That means much of it will force its way through the laptop intake. You don't want another fan blowing out because you want the air to exit via the via the vents on the back of the laptop.
Trust me this is a solid idea you have, just turn the fan around and it will work a lot better.
Update, flipped it around and getting 20 degrees lower. You’re a game changer.
Sorry didn't see this till after I replied to your other comments. I'm glad it's working out!
r/beatmetoit
Why do so many people still seem to struggle with the temps?? Mine never goes above ~85 C while gaming.
85 Celsius is 185 Fahrenheit so about mine after the box “upgrade”.
you just need a gap from the bottom I.E it sitting on the desk and not on a blanket. The box and intake fan (now that you turned it around) are prob still choking it off.
You over there laptop gaming like a barbarian when you could be:
Yo what?! 😭
This is the first thing I thought of, Oh Yeah!
Im planning to add a tec module and cool it like this, there will be more heat pipes but its only a prototype rn
Am i insane that this will work or will it just make the laptop worse
definitely insane. if done right, it will work. but most TECs can only jump a delta of 60°C. just keep than in mind.
it won't be more efficient. it'll be worse. but if the goal is to just cool the CPU, yes it will work. you will produce more heat though that needs to go somewhere.
i think its a really cool idea, however i'm not so sure that it's going to be very effective
you're going to need quite a bit of a heatspreader to manage the hot side of the TEC seeing how large it is, and it might end up causing issues or making the thinkpad super bulky for a negligible cooling effect
my suggestion: if you have the time and enjoy working on it, go ahead and see how it turns out
Yeah for sure! I tried testing it with turning it on in bursts and it does decrease the temps by 6'C for a short period of like 10-20 minutes and then it just spikes back up even higher lmao
I tried constant too and that didnt end well, the temps lowered a bit for like 2 minutes and then spiked back again
Honestly at this point i might just remove the cpu fan and try to find a micro sized radiator to fit in it with a 5v pumping module and just do "water cooling" on it instead lol
I'm no expert but TEC will only introduce more heat to the system as a whole so I'd imagine it'll just make things worse yes.
Thing is i will add an another controller that activate the tec in bursts instead of constant so it will go like
Activates for 10 seconds -> turn off and cool for 30 seconds, repeat
I'm sorry but that's just stupid.
I am considering an idea to improve the heat dissipation of my laptop, particularly the passive cooling. The goal is to enable the laptop to handle light workloads passively. My plan involves placing two copper bars (dimensions 2x20x80mm) on the GPU and CPU heatsinks, using thermal paste (represented in sky blue in the picture). The bars will be glued with with a 0.2 mm thick copper foil with a thermal glue (indicated in white). In red, I have marked where holes should be made in the copper foil, and in blue, where cable ties will attach it to the heat pipes. Additionally, the copper foil will extend up the rear of the laptop screen, secured with adhesive tape only at the top. The foil will fold along the back of the screen without any sharp bends. Please refrain from suggesting solutions like "just turn on the fan at the minimum speed," as that is not the aim of this project
I like the out of the box thinking and in theory the copper inside will see air flow over it however the air vented over the oem cooler will be hotter which will reduce it's efficiency so very little net gain
You are just making a tiny heat reservoir. It will work for like 20 seconds and then saturate and not make much of a difference. You'd need a metal bottom case and bond it to that.
The heat will dissipate on the back of the screen through the copper foil
Probably killing the screen, If it was a smart idea maybe one of the brands might have thought of it
there are quite a few problems with this:
the heat on the screen would kill the screen
the copper sheet would cover the VRMs, making them heat up, throttle and reduce power delivered to the chips anyway
zip ties might melt
heat might met the plastic casing
u might cause a short by putting that much copper (Especially foil) over ur motherboard
u might think to also put a heatpipe horizontally above the actual heatsink, but that causes throttling (i assume it blocks indirect airflow that cools VRMs) (I tried it and lost 200pts in cinebench r23, dont bother with that too)
speaking as someone who has spent alot of time trying to mod cooling for tuf a15, all you can really do is clean the fans, use ptm7950+u6pro, add thermal pads on the chokes (grey cubes) and add SMD heatsinks like this https://calcuttaelectronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/mini-heatsink.jpg on places on the heatsink with sufficient clearance (above the gpu die on the copper contact for VRAM for example, and upside down on the left heatpipe to the left heatsink.). Dont go any higher than there as the the bottom case is made so that the top portion is thinner, and there is no clearance there.
use kaplon tape any places on the motherboard which has a chance of coming into contact with any of the metals
zip ties ain't gonna melt bro
I did it OP! and my method doesnt need any cooling mods, either. I wrote a linux script that limits my CPU frequency to 800MHZ...still pretty snappy for web browsing, and running fanless
My script wont work on windows, but im sure you can get some kind of software to do this
EDIT: its currently running at 42C fanless, playing youtube
i admire the thought process, though I don't think you fully understand thermodynamics and heat dissipation. a copper block isn't gonna be very good at dissipating heat, you're gonna need some fins even thick chunky fins will be better than no fins. and well yes the copper foil could be effective at extremely low powers(like a raspberry pi or cellphone) it probably won't be as effective as you're hoping.
since you specified light tasks you should see what power options your laptop has, disabling dedicated graphics and telling the cpu to calm down(my laptop lets me set performance way low, cpu goes down to like 700MHz and 7w power draw) this should be quite fine for basic tasks like word processing and light photo editing, and even some web browsing (please use ublock origin tho, ads destroy performance).
ive had similar inquiries in the past, ive been wanting to add another heat pipe to my CPU because it still gets very hot(and throttles) under load despite repasting. my gpu has 3 pipes and never is higher than 70° even when overclocked and fully loaded.
again i love this idea, I'd love to see your progress on it and if you need any advice, i may not be an expert (or really even know that much), but i will certainly do my best to help. please feel free to DM me.
also something that might be overkill but still work, use convection to move water through a radiator to dissipate heat.
btw is there a setting given by your OEM to manually set the CPU speed to 700 mhz?
My laptop doesn't have that, but i found the way to manually set it using windows "power options"
what i did was go to "Power Options", then created a new power plan, named it "power saver", then went to "change plan settings", then "Change advanced power settings", then in "processor power management" and set the "maximum processor state to 20%, so whenever i activate this power plan, it automatically reduces CPU clock speed to 778 MHz (task manager shows it as 0.78 GHz)
yeah in my MSI dragon center if i set the performance preset to low it drops the clocks way down, better 768mhz and like 1.5ghz. i normally have it at like 4.7 with the turbo performance
but yeah windows power center works too!
Thank you!
wow this turned out to be a really long comment, probably my longest ever, I hope I did a good job of formatting it into decent easier to read chunks.
As in my old post I didn’t include good videos or photos. I’ve recorded one and will put it to replace the original post
CPU temps
Without water cooling - 99C (Throttling) With water cooling - 70C (No Throttling)
Water Temps
36C
Ambient
28C
More improvements and aesthetic changes are oncoming soon. (Very soon)
I'm currently in process of doing the same thing. Have fun with it.
If you want to work together please message me. I need some help improving this as well
Have fun with your water cooled laptop
Thank you.
Can't argue with the numbers... 🤷
Sorry for the manual picture, didn't take one myself.
So my laptop is 4 years old, pre-owned and not quite up to task for newer games.
My bottleneck (if that's the word?) has been temperature, which I have tried to remedy to the best of my ability. I've replaced the thermal paste (added extra just in case) and cleaned out the fans. This has helped, but only by ~5° in low impact tasks and ~10° in higher impact.
In high impact tasks, I prop up my laptop so the fans have more room to breathe, and in some cases (BG3), I balance it between two stools for max breathing (one side on each stool edge, bottom uncovered completely).
Turbo mode is always on, because I like hearing her scream.
My CPU does it's job staying within the manufacturer's temp limit (100°) and GPU stay relatively cool always (30-75°), even in something like BG3 that hits 95% usage.
I've been trying to think of something more I can do, but I feel like I'm limited in terms of space inside the case, like I cant really install better internal fans. Yes, cooling pads exist, but I want to push the limits of what my pc can do on its own.
Should I just cover everything in thermal tape? Lol
there are laptop cooling pads out there. just make sure to check that the one you're buying actually works because some of them are useless Edit: I didn't read the last part of your post lol
Make some cardboard shim to raise up 4 corners of laptop (about 3/4 inch) and direct some cool air by any fan (small desktop fan / regular cooling fan or if you can make some case fan to run off 12volt adaptor ).
Hi Reddit, I have a Omen HP Laptop 15-dh0xxx with an RTX-2070 MaxQ Design. I really love it but I'm finding that it tends to really overheat in summer during the day. I'm looking for the best possible cooling pads, fans, stands, etc to keep the temperature as low as possible. Ideally, keeping the cooling method portable would be preferable, but I am mainly looking for anything to keep the laptop as cold as possible. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Note: This is a repost of a post I deleted.
Clean your fans and heatsinks inside the laptop, if you can. For me this made the most difference. I found that my heatsinks' exhaust fins where air is pushed out of the laptop were basically completely blocked, on the inside of the fan housing. Its worth having a crack at cleaning this if you can. it depends how dirty they are as to how much its gonna help obviously, if your lappy is new it might do fuck all. pull them off the laptop before you go blowing air into them, revving your fans manually while connected can be damaging. i was able to separate my fan from the exhaust manifold very easily so, they looked clean from the outside btw... completely fucked on the inside. i used compressed air to help but make sure the compressed air you use doesnt leave residue.
Repaste it. Gelid and tfx are the general consensus on the best laptop pastes on the market right now (combo of longevity + performance). I got noctua h2 because it has good performance in high temps so it suits laptops, whether it lasts longer than 3 months or even two weeks I will find out, I have tfx coming too but its a couple weeks away.
Thermal pads may or may not be worth replacing, to be honest I did not bother.
Cooling pads generally drop around 4c off a laptop. it really depends on the laptop. Most cooling pads are about the same. I just had a quick research on which one was relatively quite on got it. mine is a havit one.
Undervolt your cpu, look up how to do this safely, watch a couple videos on it. get something like throttle stop, get the right benchmarking and monitoring software. do your research then go ahead. its actually very easy, and its actually pretty safe, and kinda fun.
Undervolt your gpu. most laptops share heatpipes/sinks for both the gpu and cpu, which means dropping the temp of either is good for both. As with the cpu, this is relatively easy but does require research and a few bits of software. Youtube is great, but watch at least a few different videos, get a wide perspective on it.
i think that about covers it.. I just recently went on a mission to take care of my laptops thermals and spent fucking ages researching every element of it from thermal paste efficiency to mghz etc (im the kind of guy that will research cooling pads for 8 hours lol)
Let me know if you have any questions. Btw I undervolted using throttlestop and msi after burner, I used hwinfo and cpu-z to monitor stuff, i used prime 95 to stress test my cpu, i used heaven benchmark to benchmark my gpu. these were all free, quick to download and install and easy to use. I think thats all i used anyway.
good luck in ur thermal adventures <3
Forget all of these complicated solutions.
Lift the back of your laptop up, put a small piece of cardboard there to keep it tilted towards you. This will help with the heat from using it more than almost anything else.
For actual cpu and gpu temps, I’ve found undervolting did very little on my asus and would crash if I tried anything more. I can’t speak to repasting, liquid metal, or thermal pads but maxing your fans will help more than any of these methods. Also a vapor chamber is like magic.
Cooling pads don’t do much, maybe help with the heat from using it or a couple of degrees overall but lifting the back of your laptop and maxing your fans will do the most. Try to have an optimal climate as well, as in a fan or AC. Don’t be in a humid room and so on
Quite the opposite is true. You want laptop on a flat hard & "cool" surface so it can breathe AND transfer the heat. The only time a surface will make heat worse is if it stops airflow or is soft and suffocating. The only time you really want a lot of space under the pc - is if it's the space between fans lol - as cases are designed to transfer heat out through the case's materials and design.
A PC in the still home air is hotter than one on your desk - most times. A PC in your lap is wayyyy hotter than one on the table. Is what it is. I tested all of this btw with my pc Temptures- over months and months. Laptop cooling pads work the best and they do infact work to keep temp low enough. Btw 1 degree is a big change. I got mine down t degrees while at max gaming - that's really amazing for a $15 pad.
A floating pc is not better than a cool hardwood desk imo. I use a laptop stand because I have a work and personal laptop. It definitely doesn't help cooling however it setter than stacking two pcs that produce heat lol and my laptop cooling fan died (these work amazing). I was running badly Warzone on a gtx 1060 6gb laptop version i777hq. Put the fan under it and literally could almost max our everything on my GeForce settings and game settings (they do mess eachother up this takes a lot of resear - different research and settings for different games). But when you're using a basically non gaming pc to game.... you find the way lol. Way better than ps4 but still not that great of a pc.
So, this advice really depends. If you have one of the newer, slim and sleek laptops, and are trying to game on it? you need the extra space. I have a Huawei D14. I propped the back of mine on a rubiks cube. It helps, because these modern laptops try so hard to be sleek, there is next to no airflow.
Ik this is a whole year later.
This issue might possibly be exclusive to my laptop.
Just an opinion.
I'll say it: disable turbo boost
I paid for a whole laptop, I’m gonna use all of it
You should seriously consider disabling Turbo Boost.
More power = more heat = less performance b/c thermal throttling.
The endless over performing, overheating, and then grossly underperforming cycle is much worse then just maximizing your performance consistency. At the bare minimum if there is a "short power max turbo boost" function you should disable that. It creates a ton of heat.
You do you boss
Best thing ever. No need for undervolting complexities, no need to risk 3rd party apps. Just disable Turbo Boost and CPU temps never go over 60s. In 99% of cases CPUs work fine at regular clock rates and they tend to just go batshit crazy on turbo boost for no reason, wehenevr its enabled. Disabling Turbo boost opened me up to the fact that its almost never really needed in reality. Disabled boost makes no difference at all to my work or to my Games. Even the most intensive games work run fine at normal 2.0 GHZ frequency, compared to almost 5 GHZ frequency that they would turbo boos to, if given the freedom to do so. I've been running with Turbo boost off on all my machines for years and never had a need to ever enable them other than when doing benchmarks, etc.
Cooling pads can do more that just the cfm suggests, depending upon the surface you play on, it may block the vents. A cooling pad elevates it and prevents this.
Cleaning the vents will also be very beneficial moreso if you play near dust.
Add more vent holes (Drill 'em) to your bottom case cover where your cooling fans are located.
cut out a hole in your bottom case cover over the CPU and attach low profile heat sinks using thermal tape to the heat pipes directly over the CPU. M.2 Heat sinks are the perfect shape and size. Buy a used bottom case cover on ebay to cut up so you can restore the laptop to original for resale later.
I'm about to do this to my laptop.
No one’s going to do this unless they’re very confident in their abilities to not fuck up the laptop they paid 4 figured for.
It’s too excessive
I'm dismantling my old gaming laptop from 2015 and turning it into a more portable headless machine. The problem is the current cooling system sticks out so much from the bare PCB and I would like to reroute it or replace it with something else.
How feasible would this be?
It's going to be far easy to just bolt a few fans on the thing to increase overall airflow. Just putting it upside down will help already.
Anything is feasible with enough thermal epoxy and money.
Idk if it still true but most of those copper pipes have some working fluid so you can't just bend them. Best thing to do is find a different heatsink setup that may be in same footprint as your PCB.
You cand bend them . Just not too much .
You can but just be careful not to kink them too much. I bent the heat pipe on my sony vaio laptop and the cooling on the GPU was never the same after that.
You would need a replacement cooling setup that can handle the heat transfer. Bending copper heat pipes again are an easy way to snap em.
Since I'm building my own case for it could I just do heatsyncs and fans without bending my own pipes? Or is there some kind of other cheap solution?
For someone new to this, I’d say it’s far from easy. I’ve modified a few laptop coolers myself—desoldering the original heat pipes and soldering on new ones to either improve cooling performance or make the layout more compact. In my experience, it’s very easy to overdo both the soldering and the bending. Too much heat or sloppy technique can ruin the pipes entirely, and bending them improperly can kink or weaken them, making the whole thing ineffective. I’ve only worked with simpler designs—usually one or two pipes max. I’ve never attempted a 4-pipe setup, but getting all four bent and positioned perfectly without damaging them sounds like a serious challenge, even for someone with some experience.
Yeah, that's fair I probably won't alter it then. It would be cool to make a more portable device but it is what it is I guess.
The goal was to make this into a cyberdeck. And while I definitely have the technical skills, I'm not creative enough I don't think.
improving laptop cooling systems
Key Considerations for Improving Laptop Cooling Systems
Clean the Vents and Fans: Dust accumulation can block airflow. Regularly clean the vents and fans using compressed air to ensure optimal airflow and cooling.
Use a Cooling Pad: A laptop cooling pad can provide additional airflow and help dissipate heat. Look for one with multiple fans and adjustable height for better ergonomics.
Optimize Power Settings: Adjust your laptop's power settings to reduce heat generation. Use power-saving modes when performing less intensive tasks.
Monitor Temperature: Use software tools to monitor CPU and GPU temperatures. If temperatures exceed safe limits (typically above 85°C), consider taking action.
Reapply Thermal Paste: If you're comfortable with hardware, reapplying thermal paste on the CPU and GPU can improve heat transfer and cooling efficiency.
Limit Resource-Intensive Applications: Close unnecessary applications and tabs that consume CPU and GPU resources, which can generate excess heat.
Keep the Laptop on Hard Surfaces: Avoid using your laptop on soft surfaces like beds or couches that can block airflow. Use it on a hard, flat surface instead.
Recommendation: If you're frequently experiencing overheating, consider investing in a high-quality cooling pad. Brands like Cooler Master and Targus offer reliable options that can significantly enhance cooling performance. Additionally, ensure your laptop's firmware and drivers are up to date, as manufacturers often release updates that can improve thermal management.
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