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Financial and Industry Factors

The cancellation of the iCarly reboot was largely influenced by financial constraints and industry-wide challenges. Paramount+ decided to cancel the show due to financial strain exacerbated by the 2023 writers and actors strikes [2:1]. Despite a successful third season in terms of viewership, the costs associated with producing the show were significant, especially given the high salaries of the original cast members and their roles as executive producers [5:2][5:3].

Cliffhangers and Uncertain Renewals

The decision to end the third season on a cliffhanger was based on the hope that the show would be renewed for another season. The creators did not intend for the cliffhanger to serve as the series finale; they anticipated further seasons [1:5]. However, the uncertainty surrounding renewals made this a risky choice, as it left the series without a conclusive ending when the show was ultimately canceled [1:4].

Viewership and Streaming Dynamics

While the reboot had a dedicated fanbase, streaming services have different metrics for success compared to traditional TV. Shows are often evaluated based on impressions and engagement rather than just viewership numbers [5:1]. Although the iCarly reboot had decent viewership, the cost of production relative to these numbers may not have justified its continuation [5:7].

Potential for Future Content

Despite the cancellation, there is still interest from both fans and cast members in wrapping up the story. Miranda Cosgrove has expressed a desire to create a movie or special to provide closure for the fans [2:6]. This suggests that while the series itself may not continue, there could be opportunities for additional content in the future.

Criticism and Nostalgia

The reboot faced criticism for not living up to the original series, which relied heavily on nostalgia [1:7]. Some viewers felt that the reinterpretation of beloved characters did not meet expectations, contributing to mixed reception [5:5]. Despite this, the show managed to maintain a level of popularity, indicating that nostalgia still played a significant role in its initial success [5:6].

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POST SUMMARY • [1]

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That’s why you don’t end on cliffhangers…

Posted by DMelee · in r/icarly · 1 year ago
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Bummer iCarly has to end on that, but when you only BARELY got a third season… I don’t know why they thought another cliffhanger to end season 3 was a good idea. I definitely knew if there were any other unresolved issues besides creddie that the reboot needed to touch upon, it had to be in the third season.

Thankfully they didn’t drag out creddie to another cliffhanger to season 4. Instead they did it early and we got a full season of them as a couple.

I wish a movie could’ve been an alternative to wrapping up the series but regardless… this was the risk the iCarly crew choose by ending on yet another cliffhanger.

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ChickenParm98701 · 1 year ago

Miranda is an executive producer -- so she was ok with these cliffhangers

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proflesor_s · 1 year ago

Unfortunately EP is a title that can agents can negotiate for on behalf of actors (allows for higher pay and residuals)—it doesn't necessarily indicate a higher level of approval or involvement.

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Remdiamond · 1 year ago

It was in this case. Miranda was very involved according to everything I’ve heard.

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Not_Extert_Thief · 1 year ago

It wasn’t intended to be the finale they were hoping Paramount+ would renew it for another season

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DMelee · OP · 1 year ago

Obviously they intended to go another season with the cliffhanger…

What I’m saying is that they were greedy for expecting another season in the first place. Especially with how in the air even getting season 3 was.

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LunaTeddy1414 · 1 year ago

Maybe they thought a cliffhanger would help chances of renewal?

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Remdiamond · 1 year ago

I think so along with the creddie hype.

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HypocriticalCritic · 1 year ago

Not uncommon

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Ok_Crab_2575 · 1 year ago

This is why you don't do reboots. The series orginal ending was fine now it's left off in a worse shape than it started which is what reboots typically do. At best just do a movie or two and leave it at that. Zoey 101 made a smarter move even if the movie was Terrible its better than trying to bring back an old show.

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bigtukker · 1 year ago

TBF, it sucks that it's canceled, but I'm glad we got a reboot in the first place.

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Ok_Crab_2575 · 1 year ago

Yeah I'm not cause they normally always screw it up. Nogolastia sells and it's clear the show was going off of the Nogolastia of the old show not really its own thing.

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No Season 4 But Supposedly Getting A Special/Movie? What?

Posted by melvin2898 · in r/icarly · 4 months ago

I don't really know how companies work. So iCarly was successful for the streaming service.

I'm not sure HOW legit this is but I saw a post saying that the show was cancelled because maybe the actors wanted better pay or maybe the writer's strike. Does anyone know the OFFICIAL reason?

Also, does anyone think it's weird that they might approve a new movie or special but there's no season 4? Maybe the movie could be huge and open up doors for more seasons. I'd be fine with this show going for 6 or 7 seasons, maybe longer. They're trying to bring back things like Avatar and Henry Danger. iCarly was big for the service, I don't see why it's not still going right now.

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xG3MINIIx · 4 months ago

The show didn’t do as well as the original, I myself as much a fan as I am can see why, the reboot was really bad and had a decline in viewership. As a result the show was cancelled, however, due to want from fans and cast Miranda said they’re working on trying to wrap the story up for us

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melvin2898 · OP · 4 months ago

I'd rather them not wrap it up but keep it going.

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CrazyaboutSpongebob · 4 months ago

TV shows very rarely last long anymore. Back in the day they asked for a ton of episodes so that they could rerun episodes endlessly without repeating them. Streaming Services now ask for 8-10 episodes and renew them if the streaming numbers are high.

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wallflower5432 · 4 months ago

I’ve met Nathan Kress at a couple fan conventions recently so I can provide some answers. Paramount+ cancelled the iCarly revival due to financial strain caused by the 2023 writers and actors strikes. It wasn’t cancelled due to a decline in viewership, season 3 actually performed better than season 2. Since most shows end after 3 seasons, they had asked Paramount+ if they should wrap it up but were told to keep going so they added the season 3 cliffhanger. As of April 25, “the dream [of an iCarly movie] is still not dead” and they’re still doing what they can to make an iCarly movie happen.

Cancellation Reason: https://x.com/wallflower5432/status/1865241192847286416
Movie Update: https://x.com/wallflower5432/status/1915960905403404618

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melvin2898 · OP · 4 months ago

Thanks!

That's so crazy. I wonder what shows did they keep?

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funkymonkeyunkie · 4 months ago

Wait, movie or special? How long ago was this said???

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melvin2898 · OP · 4 months ago

I believe Miranda was asked about it. I don’t know if movie or special was said explicitly BUT she wants to do something for the fans.

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melvin2898 · OP · 4 months ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AiAraKPU-aw

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Lack of Conclusion

Posted by YogurtclosetEvery669 · in r/victorious · 4 months ago

Hello, new official member here after silently lurking this sub for a while.

Victorious was one of my favorite live-action Nick shows when it was airing, and how this show got canned for no real concrete reason back in 2013 baffles me the more I think about it. Obviously, there's a lot of speculation around the reasons why, but still, it kills me how we didn't get a proper finale like a graduation or something. Also, Victoria deserves some Justice. Her new songs are pretty good now (like her Fergie cover of Big Girls Don't Cry and her latest single Down).

I guess the one of the speculations I could get behind with (other than the alleged illegal activity behind the scenes) was that Nickelodeon was going through a weird transition around 2012-2013 when all their other popular shows were ending within a couple of months between each other, and I for sure felt that transition, because once Henry Danger, The Thundermans, Haunted Hathaways, etc. dropped, I was tapped out personally. No offense to those who genuinely enjoyed these shows I've mentioned but it wasn't for me. I also saw a post two months ago on this sub talking about How To Rock, a similar musical Nick sitcom I enjoyed (axed way too soon imo), commented under that and the show also got canceled around that time. I did watch Sam & Cat though, but it did felt a bit juvenile in comparison to its peers (except when other characters from Victorious and ICarly showed up for a special, that was a highlight) and the character of Cat gotten more dumber and drove me up the wall. Especially when we found out what Jennette was going through during the show made matters worse.

This is all not revolutionary news what I'm saying here , but it's all worth mentioning and bears repeating. I just wanted to echo what was the writing on the wall for over a decade when this show was canned. Comment down below if you agree.

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Character-Day5781 · 3 months ago

I mean Vic said the show got cancelled in some interview thing I saw on tiktok and she didn't even know they told her over the phone hey shows over. Also I mean all the  "pranks" Dan pulled, his behind the scenes videos, how he made everyone uncomfortable then him being let go in 2016 and then the slap. com being taken down after his departure. Sam and Cat didn't last long due to Jeanette and Ari not getting along and probably not as high views, How To Rock I loved but it got pushed to the side like most other shows that weren't the golden boy Dan's

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ReferenceArtistic854 · 4 months ago

There was at least a few dozen reasons why the show got the boot. The main ones were Nick wanted to go younger and wanted to get rid of the music shows. How to Rock was canceled and Big Time Rush was as well. The parties might have played a role but no one is talking. The Execs should have had the show do a finale. Also, you’re right about Victoria deserved Justice after Ariana threw her under the bus on AskFM and later Seventeen the Magazine. At least the good news is we will get a spin-off.

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kinggcroww · 4 months ago

Wait when/why did Ariana throw Victoria under the bus?

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ReferenceArtistic854 · 4 months ago

There was an ASK FM post where Ariana responded to someone about her canceling the show and she replied that the show was canceled because one girl wanted to do a solo tour instead a group and that's what got the show canceled and that she was going to do two shows at once if Victorious got another season. Then Victoria replied via Twitter. Later on, Ari on another post that she didn't mean to attack Victoria, she just got tired of being blamed for the show being canceled.

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YogurtclosetEvery669 · OP · 4 months ago

I heard about the spinoff with Trina. I hope it's good. I will say that Daniella Monet has a pretty interesting career on Nickelodeon, to say the least.

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luce-77 · 4 months ago

it’s cuz by 2012-2013, the actors was already entering their 20’s and i guess they wanted to go younger to appeal to the next generation of audiences. i feel you on the tapping out after henry dangers and thundermans started coming out. wasn’t a fan of the whole superhero/magic era of nickelodeon from 2014-2017. its clear those were made for a much younger audience

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YogurtclosetEvery669 · OP · 4 months ago

Oh yeah definitely. The mid to late 10s Nickelodeon shows were starting to be unrecognizable to me when those came along. Then it gotten worse in the 2020s with shows like Young Dylan, That Girl Lay Lay, the All That reboot they tried to do, Aaron & Erin, etc.

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SweetlyScentedHeart · 4 months ago

Th reality is that the show was too expensive to produce. Everyone was on the cusp of becoming a big name, especially Ariana, and they we using legit producers and songwriters on the songs.

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Careless-Economics-6 · 4 months ago

More current-day fans of this show do need to keep in mind that most Nickelodeon sitcoms ran 3 season, and 50-60 episodes. And yes, clearly the network was ready to “age down” its shows in the 2013-2014 range.

These shows were designed to be aged out of, and it’s sorta remarkable that this show is still making fans years later.

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I’m not sure if I’m sad that the show ended or glad that it ended before it ran its course and became Flanderized

Posted by Fun_Butterfly_420 · in r/DrakeandJosh · 5 months ago
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Street-Office-7766 · 5 months ago

Well, that’s the thing with live action Nickelodeon shows they all end before 65 eps until Icarly. So it had a perfect run.

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Sozins_Comet_ · 5 months ago

I thought the ending did a pretty good job of full circle. I'd never say no to more Drake and Josh though. It did feel like the show just kept getting better and better. After watching the podcast, I would be surprised if they didn't do some sort of reunion show or limited series run. Especially since Josh complains about residuals all the time. This way they could produce it themselves and get in on the long term money. 

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Dizzy_Hotwheelz · 5 months ago

It ended way too soon for me and it didn't end properly. It deserved a final season at least, and a proper series finale.

They should have had them end high school at least, like they ended when they where in 11th grade I believe, it just felt incomplete

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New-Pin-9064 · 5 months ago

It did have a proper series finale

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Dizzy_Hotwheelz · 5 months ago

No it didn't

A proper series finale is having them graduate high school

Ik how series finales work

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12stringdreams · 5 months ago

Drake And Josh are similar to TheBeatles/ThePolice (to make a musical comparison) in that they wrapped things up at their creative/commercial heights, instead of continuing on to the point where declines in those areas became apparent.

I do think there are more stories that could be told, but they’d have to be more mature, nuanced stories a la the Xmas special, where they were taking care of kids as opposed to the early seasons of the show where people were brought in to take care of them. In that respect I think the Xmas special laid a blueprint for a post high school age D&J.

I think we can both happy the show ended when it was still as brilliant as ever, and sad that it came to an end.

The recent podcast they did together does make me feel like we can “never say never” as it relates to those guys. Despite all the drama they seem to reunite every so often when the dust settles so maybe there’s an opportunity for more D&J stories in the future.

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Street-Office-7766 · 5 months ago

Technically, only Disney had that rule, but Nickelodeon followed it also. Only a few of their shows that were popular went beyond that mark to 100. Rugrats, all That but for a live action comedy, it wasn’t common so where Drake and Josh ended was normal. And it probably would’ve had more episodes if the first two seasons didn’t have as many episodes as a normal first season.

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FishOffMan · 5 months ago

I feel like they could’ve made 1 last season. I thought Really Big Shrimp was the last episode and when Merry Christmas Drake and Josh came out I thought there was more to come because there’s no way the last form of media is a Christmas movie? But indeed it was

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_ryan9 · 5 months ago

Same. I remember thinking there were gonna be new episodes and the foster kids would become recurring characters or something lol

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Street-Office-7766 · 5 months ago

The show was so popular in reruns from 2007 to 2008. That’s why they made the Christmas movie.

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Fun_Butterfly_420 · OP · 5 months ago

Apparently it was made because Dan Schneider realized that they never did a Christmas episode

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corndogs102 · 5 months ago

I was thinking that too. They were really at their peak during that last season. We should have got a season 5, even if it had less Miranda due to icarly.

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I couldn’t help but wonder… is the cancellation our fault?

Posted by Longjumping-Way-6390 · in r/AJLT · 1 month ago

Viewers have been very critical online about this show. We have strong opinions about the characters we once loved and this reinterpretation of them 20+ years later. But we all kept watching. Now everyone is sad to say goodbye forever. I wonder if all the online criticism contributed to them throwing in the towel. Ratings must still have been good but I don’t know.

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ScarletRose75 · 1 month ago

They’re spending millions per episode to make the show and only 429k viewers. It was a financial decision.

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temperedolive · 1 month ago

This. Ratings don't justify the costs. A million dollars per episode (Friends salaries) for each original lead, plus paying them all as EPs. MPK is not paying himself scale. Two podcasts to finance (KD makes a million per episode of TV; I'm sure her podcast salary isn't low). And then the newer actors to pay. To bring in less than half a million viewers per episode. It's a money pit.

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Alive_Public_7215 · 1 month ago

Only 429k viewers is crazyyyy. Puts into perspective how successful some solo YouTubers are. Or maybe just how far this show has fallen bc damn.

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Waitingforadragon · 1 month ago

The show survived longer than it would have done, if it wasn’t for the fans, in my opinion.

My understanding is that the powers that be in television look at ‘impressions’ which is things like comments on social media, alongside viewing figures.

So I think that will have helped.

I think that a show of this ‘quality’ without a dedicated fan base would have been cancelled after season one.

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KatNotVonDee · 1 month ago

Wading into waters above my head though I work in tv... ratings are a thing of the past with streaming services, but, for HBI and Netflix and the rest, they do calculate the views Yes you have a subscription, thanks for the 12.99, but what are you watching, do you finish it especially if you are receiving ads, etc

I think that an inexpensive show can live on the platform as "filler", it guest draw in eyes but it's there when you're done with your show of choice. This show was expensive, it might have made new viewers sign up initially but bad word of mouth didn't create a spike, so HBO cut it off

Similar situation, the Harry and Meghan debacle at Netflix

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Delicious-Code-1173 · 1 month ago

The other step they look at is how many people watch it in the first day or two of release and complete the show

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Orsee · 1 month ago

Our fault? I don't think any of us are to be blamed for the horrible storylines, atrocious styling and the lack of acting.

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LayladeLesseps · 1 month ago

Came here to respond: ‘Don’t blame the victims that had to view this atrocity!’ but you’ve done a much more rounded response job ;)

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GuiseppePuppet · 1 month ago

No, it isn't, because we still tuned in, they had more numbers than they ever should have with the product they were producing.

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ApprehensiveYak3307 · 1 month ago

Ratings went down season over season. It’s also gotten critically panned by several popular media outlets.

HBO typically doesn’t worry about ratings if it’s well-received and gets nominated/ wins awards. Don’t see this season winning much at the 2026 Emmy’s…

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Visible_Traffic_5774 · 1 month ago

I don’t even care to rewatch any episodes- I’m sure a lot of us feel that way- so that also tanks numbers

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Delicious-Code-1173 · 1 month ago

I don't see how it was astronomical. There were barely any outside scenes. All the money must have been plowed into salary

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What will you think when iCarly becomes 20 years old soon since it came out in 2007?

Posted by Choice-Silver-3471 · in r/icarly · 3 months ago
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It’s 18 years now this year, but in just 2 years from now it will be 20 years since when the show came out all those years ago, and I won’t be able to believe it, as I was someone who was around at the time when it premiered on Nick and grew up with the show and watched the show all the way until it originally ended in 2012. It was such a different time back then.

I can’t believe how the years went by, and people who grew up like me from that time are getting older, and I see Nickelodeon in this generation that it is sad the kids now won't experience shows like we did to know what it was like to come back after school to turn on the TV and catch ICarly with new episodes, or if it was a special that was going to air like a movie or episode, it was a must-see and a big deal then. As kids, we'd have to either wait a couple of days or until next week to catch what we missed from the show on time.

This was before social media was out and became like it is now; it wasn't really around back then with streaming and stuff like that for those who recall and relate to what I'm talking about.

I can remember so many episodes of the original iCarly I've seen through the years that I haven't watched in a long time, like when Carly, Sam, and Freddie went to Tokyo; the Bigfoot episode; Carly and Sam almost fell from the building where they were having issues with these two other guys who were web show personalities themselves on that one episode (forgive me, I’m recalling from memory); it’s also the same one, I think, where Spencer and Gibby got tossed and evicted from Spencer’s own boat by these guys, Shelby Marx; and Freddie saved Carly's life from getting hit by a truck and kissed her for the first time. Woo! That was a big deal when it happened then.

The two iPsychos movies back-to-back with Nora, the episode where Sam and Freddie kissed for the first time after Sam apologized for embarrassing him online. There will never be shows or an era like that again. 

What do you think of the show almost reaching 20 years old? 

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Glum_Cicada_7771 · 3 months ago

Ill think: “damn, icarly is fr 20 years old… kinda insane”

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Nostalgic_Sapphire · 3 months ago

I’ll think the people who watched it as it was first airing on Nickelodeon will feel old. I already feel old knowing that Suite Life of Zack and Cody is 20 years old this year.

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megarubie · 3 months ago

And Hannah Montana will be 20 next year 😳

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90svibe4life · 3 months ago

😭😩

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Cornbreadobranflakes · 3 months ago

Unfortunately a lot of people will think of the abuse Jeanette suffered during production

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Thick_DepressedLibra · 3 months ago

I was watching Sam & Cat earlier and they had Jeanette dress up as cat for Halloween while cat got to be a genie. After learning about how they lied to Jeanette about having her own show and wouldn’t let her be upset I feel like they did that to her on purpose.

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iluvmusicwdw · 3 months ago

Yes

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No_Credit6665 · 3 months ago

I’ll be 33 and I’ll feel old.

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No-Cream-3961 · 9 days ago

for me 31

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lasagnaisgreat57 · 3 months ago

kinda crazy because it still feels “newer” to me. i was in 3rd grade when icarly started and that’s when i really started paying attention to pop culture. like i wasn’t just watching the shows, i was obsessed with the actors too and i was reading all the kid magazines like tiger beat. i clearly remember it being a brand new show. i remember knowing miranda from drake and josh and being excited to see her new show. it’s weird to think that’ll be 20 years ago in 2 years, and 20 years ago will be a time that i can remember clearly. i remember 2005 but it’s still kind of a blur lol

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It Was Honestly Wrong to Continue the Show Without Spencer, It Just Doesn't Feel Right

Posted by es70707 · in r/AllAmericanTV · 6 months ago

This is just my opinion and I'm sure a lot of other people feel that way too.

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Just-Cardiologist-94 · 6 months ago

Season 6 should’ve been the series finale. Everyone had an ending and/or closure. Season 7 should’ve been a spinoff 🤷🏾‍♀️ it makes no sense for a completely new plot with fresh characters to follow all the events of season 6, making it feel so boring. I can’t watch the new season because of that.

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LifeChampionship6 · 6 months ago

It happens all the time. Grey’s Anatomy has been going for 20+ years and there’s like 4 people from the original cast still on the show.

If it’s a good show with good stories, who cares if you call it All-American or All-American: The Next Class?

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OakSunset_76 · 6 months ago

grey's anatomy should've ended at s16. And yes, they killed off or got rid of a lot of main characters over the years but NEVER Meredith Grey. When Meredith started phasing out, the series started tanking. Many people now say they just watching out of habit and hope that it will improve. Also, greys anatomy is about hospital staff, originally centered around Meredith and her ~7 co-workers. So if you killed off a few of them, you just bring in more co-workers. All American was about spencer and his journey to the NFL (inspired by the life of spencer payskal with him onset giving stories from his life.) It's kinda weird to close out spencer's story and then keep going with the show helmed by ppl who were originally supporting cast to HIS story and not have Spencer included.

The spinoff All American-Homecoming didn't work so they figured the problem was they needed to keep the setting in Crenshaw. But they aren't realizing it's not the setting it's the story. Spencer's story was interesting, and we were invested in it and his vortex of friends. These others aren't.

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Independent_Rest3735 · 6 months ago

I somewhat agree … however I don’t know because I have not watched for YEARS but did Grey’s ever have so many original characters leave at once ? I felt like it was more gradual . Season 6 to Season 7 of All American lost A-LOT of the original cast .

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DepressWarriorsFan3 · 6 months ago

Or the the next generation

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unstoppable_vante242 · 6 months ago

I heard it costs money for a spinoff that’s why they just took the Degrassi route

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DepressWarriorsFan3 · 6 months ago

Exactly

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LifeChampionship6 · 6 months ago

I just got caught up on season 7, and I’m really enjoying it. I like the new characters and I dislike the characters that the writers want me to dislike (Khalil’s dad 🤮). KJ and Khalil are very likable. I’m invested in their stories. Cassius & Bobby are very unlikable, and I am also invested in their stories.

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ResponsibilityNo2110 · 6 months ago

I think season 7 is good as well. I think people just can’t get past the old cast. But so far this is better than season 6. Season 6 seems rushed.

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All_things_nerdy01 · 6 months ago

After watching the first few episodes I like the new season for what it is. Could be a lot better if they didn’t reuse SO MANY plot lines from S1.

That being said this definitely should’ve been a spinoff. I know it’s a technicality but having this be the same All American that we had just messed it up for me. They should’ve ended All American and given this a spinoff title

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whsiouquwud728172 · 6 months ago

Definitely

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Living_Print9408 · 6 months ago

I’ve tried to give it a go and it’s just…flat and forced. The show began because of Spencer Paysinger, so it’s a no brainer to make season 7 as something new or end it

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r/WillAndGrace • [8]

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It kinda sucks the way Sean and Eric have failed to address fans regarding the podcast.

Posted by GreyStagg · in r/WillAndGrace · 5 months ago

I know that it clearly is over. But to not officially say it, to say it's "on hiatus" and keep fans dangling, for a year now, is not fair to fans. It's not respectful or nice.

It shows that they really don't care about fans of the show at all and this was just an attempted money grab that obviously didn't pay off.

I mean I'm under no delusions. Actors only do podcasts about old shows for money. I know that. But that doesn't mean they shouldn't have integrity and at least a little respect for the audience.

I don't mind that the podcast ended. It's sad, I really enjoyed it, but these things happen. I mind that the way they have handled it. It's not a nice way to behave. Without the audience you wouldn't have had a successful sitcom and made bucketloads of money. How about just letting us know what's going on.

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AlwaysDaydreaming2 · 5 months ago

They might not be allowed to say anything. Podcasts sound really easygoing, like it's a few people just getting together for a quick conversation while an audience gets to listen, but there's a lot more to it. There's the business side of it, which involves contracts and advertisers and negotiations, etc, etc. Someone from this side of the business could be determining what's allowed to be said.

I definitely agree with you, I wish we knew what was happening with the podcast too because I really miss it. Will & Grace had so many guest stars and I was looking forward to those guests coming on! But I don't think it's coming back either. Sean and Eric might not be allowed to discuss it. 🤔

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Bat_N_Broccoli · 5 months ago

I agree. They very likely cannot speak on it publicly due to legal reasons.

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Billabong_Roit · 5 months ago

Eric is very sweet, I actually reckon he would want to inform everyone and he cares about fans and the show so much which is clear in the podcast. He is also a loyal friend and unfortunately I think it is Sean Hayes that doesn’t care.

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Spiritual-Rise-5556 · 5 months ago

This! They made it clear that Eric is the one that wanted to do the podcast and Sean wasn’t really into the idea. It doesn’t surprise me it ended, as unfortunate as it is.

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Buttons3 · 5 months ago

Oh I missed the "they said" was something addressed? I was a huge fan of Sean's medical pod hypochondriactor and poor, it ended.
Sadly, I suspected it's Sean and his hubby. When they don't see the numbers they get with Smart less they have no drive to keep it going. Which is understandable, but as a dedicated listener I feel an update is warranted. This happened with the Always Sunny Podcast also. Finally on a pod one of them addressed it.

I know Eric is doing a Broadway show and Sean is trying to get his off the ground

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classicgirl1990 · 5 months ago

I agree with those that say they probably can’t talk about it. There’s all sorts of legal issues regarding information. I remember a friend (who has Broadway producer ties) telling me that there was talk about Megan doing a Broadway production as Karen Walker but she doesn’t own the character and NBC wouldn’t allow it. Actors are limited by contracts and many other legalities. Sean Hayes is already killing it with Smartless and their umbrella of podcasts so I’m sure he’s busy enough to not continue with this particular one.

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RockGirl82 · 5 months ago

I miss it. I loooooooved listening to it.

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Gay_Stoner_ · 5 months ago

I was thinking the same thing!

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r/icarly • [9]

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Hollow plots

Posted by [deleted] · in r/icarly · 1 year ago

One thing that really annoyed me were poorly-written subplots that seemed like the writers just half-assed an idea and didn’t bother with an ending for it just to make an episode complete. I’m mostly thinking about the little girl who showed up in spencer’s apartment when carly was in space. Spencer’s therapist told him he was imagining her but Carly sees her at the end. In another episode spencer gives this girl a makeover so her mom would go out with him, but she cries and runs away and the episode ends there. It’s not icarly, but in victorious the flour bomber got caught and just said he did it bc he was on school break and was bored.

Why are they making lazy story endings? I was honestly really disappointed in these plots and would’ve rather just seen a full episode of the main plot.

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Loose-Command7521 · 1 year ago

Comedys usually have bizarre endings. We don't come for lore, we want laughs!

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ObjDep123 · 1 year ago

The worst icarly plot mistake was when Spencer was reported dead by the newspaper and Marty Klemish was at Carly’s apartment trying to buy a piece of artwork believing that Spencer was dead. Then in a later episode Marty Klemish goes to Carly’s apartment to return a whisk only to greet Spencer with a “hi, Spencer” completely forgetting that a few episodes ago he believed that Spencer was dead

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efeaf · 1 year ago

Eh I just kind of assumed the newspaper issued a correction at some point. Plus spender gave up the ruse at the end of that episode. It would’ve be too hard to think that word got around quick or that he also he cleared it up on the webshow. It didn’t even seem like that many people actually thought he was dead.

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ObjDep123 · 1 year ago

Yeah those are all good points but they should’ve continued with the plot instead of just completely forgetting about it in another episode. Would’ve made sense if they continued off of that episode in a later one. Usually that’s how it works when a character in an episode remembers or talks about something that happened in an earlier episode

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123ranchdressing · 1 year ago

it’s kind of funny you mentioned the flour bomber, because that was intentionally anticlimactic haha

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cactusguy02 · 1 year ago

It's a kids show, it's not supposed to be super deep.

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Wink2K19 · 1 year ago

I saw another thread about the little girl and someone suggested that she was simply running unsupervised through the building due to negligent parents

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r/rizzoliandisles • [10]

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End of Rizzoli and Isles

Posted by RedandWhite54 · in r/rizzoliandisles · 23 days ago

When I rewatched the ending of the series, which I consider a complete failure, I told myself that this ending was meant for a Law and Order-style show, that is, a show that could continue with other actors, but it really wasn't meant for a show like Rizzoli & Isles.

As one of my friends said, the ending gives the impression that the entire team has upset important people and that the only way out alive for Vince, Jane, and Korsak is to leave the BPD... and then, for there to be only Jane and Vince in the office when Vince takes his things and makes the traditional call to say that's it, he's retired, that doesn't make sense. Frankie should have been there, and so should Cavanaugh.

The show deserved a better ending.

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kaedemi011 · 23 days ago

The show died when they changed the show-runner…. Sad… this show deserves better.

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RedandWhite54 · OP · 22 days ago

That's what I've been thinking for years.

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Ennamora · 23 days ago

I hated how they made Jane a teacher... I don't think, seeing her character, she would be truly happy being a teacher. She lived for the streets! That's who she is. And Maura going to France to write a book? nah.

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Scotch-broth-1968 · 23 days ago

Maura going off to write books isn’t such a bad idea because Tess Gerritson is a former physician who went on to become a novelist & I’ve always thought that the character of Maura was based on herself

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Ennamora · 23 days ago

This could indeed me true. I don't know how driven Tess was as a physician and how she compared Maura to herself. Seeing Maura absolutely LOVED her job and never wanted to do anything else.
But I guess a traumatic brain injury puts things into another perspective.

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RedandWhite54 · OP · 23 days ago

Jane would never have left Maura, her family, Boston, and the BPD! Now, she accepts what she refused Casey.

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daryl772003 · 23 days ago

There's NO reason Jane couldn't have replaced korsak as sergeant 

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MzOwl27 · 23 days ago

You know.. I’ll be in the minority here. I liked the ending. Not every great ensemble is supposed to stay together for ever. I felt like the characters were supposed to be awesome together for a while and then go on their next adventure.

I feel like Jane always wanted to have a family and kids. She couldn’t do that always running around in homicide and also on a “cop’s salary” which I assume is low, I dunno. I’ll bet the FBI paid a lot more and had some pretty cool perks. I can easily see Jane getting into a consulting role and dang if she wasn’t awesome at teaching during that one episode. The only thing that bugged me about it is that she moved to DC…that I had a hard time with since she is such a Bostonian.

Maura was never going to be ME forever. She is always looking for the next thing. And once she found a competent replacement, there was nothing holding her back. She’ll write her book, just because she’s never written a book before.

Not all goodbyes are big official endings. Sometimes people just drift off. I also feel like they left a lot of room for a reboot to be possible.

I liked that Jane and Maura ended by going off to France together, even though it was really shoehorned and fan service-y. What can I say? I’m just a fan.

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RedandWhite54 · OP · 23 days ago

She would have stayed in Boston, since Korsak retired and Frost died, it would have been a logical ending, but if, and only if, Frankie wasn't a cop and if we didn't think there was such a strong sexual attraction between her and Maura.

Jane having a family and children? Yes, but with Maura. Now, when she has her miscarriage, she doesn't seem particularly concerned about losing her baby (a member of my family had a miscarriage and she's still thinking about it more than thirty years later...)

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bubbabean0630 · 23 days ago

Vince and Korsak are the same person

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