Victorious was the last great sitcom Nickelodeon made. How To Rock was also very underrated and a good show, Sam & Cat was a better show but it was kinda redundant, and Cousins for life was a great show (CFL is from the creators of Austin and Ally and I’m a diehard A&A Stan so I’m lowkey biased :D). I miss the good Nickcoms so much :’(

Probably because of sam and cat

Nickelodeon canceled it. I saw somewhere that Dan and the cast would’ve loved to keep going, but it’s common (or was common then) for Nickelodeon to end shows after about 60 episodes.

I think read somewhere that the production that included song writing got way to expensive for the network to manage.

Victorious ended because a decision was made by the executives that Jennette and Ariana were more marketable than Victoria. So they cancelled Victorious to pursue Sam and Cat and we all know how that turned out and how big of a mistake that was because Victorious, to this day, is still their last big show.

That’s what I read in a blind item. Also Avan Jogia mentioned they were always drinking and doing drugs on set. Hell, in Jeanette mccurdys book she says Dan Schneider tried to maker her drink because “the victorious kids do it”.

According to Lalo garza, (Mexican dubbing director of victorious and other nick series) nick has this policy that no protagonist in a teen show should look 21+ yo older

https://youtube.com/shorts/8TsFAG528V0?si=UJNOxlE-VHQRQZ-i

there is no confirmed reason

idk man only the crew and tarot readers and mediums know what really happened

Those all come from this Blind Item, but I'm kinda suspicious of it. You shouldn't blindly believe something anonymous and unproveable. The vast majority of blind items aren't true, since anyone can submit them and there's very little vetting. I don't think this one is made up exactly, but It seems embellished to the point of being highly untrustworthy.

This came out in 2014 and there are 2 things that, in retrospect, made it look like it wasn't made up from nothing

1. It's mentioned that the cast was so drunk at times that there are scenes the cast doesn't even remember shooting. About 2 years ago Avan Jojia Made a Tik Tok where he said He couldn't remember the story of a single Victorious episode because he was out partying every night and filmed most of his scenes hung over.
2. that someone from this show was paired with "someone who spouted bible verses". In "I'm Glad my mom died" Jennette Mccurdy goes into how religious she was at the time. so this is referring to Ariana Grande being put on Sam and Cat.

So this had to have been written by someone who was somewhat close to both the cast of Victorious and ICarly, but there are certain cues that tell me this is pretty exaggerated. The biggest red flag is saying it was at it's peak in viewership. It wasn't. Not even close. In the first 2 seasons it consistently got 3,4,5 or even occasionally 6 million views, but by the 3rd season, it was getting 2-3 million views. It wasn't going to run for many more years. It's normal for kid sit coms to end after 3 seasons/about 60 episodes. Victorious ended at the time it should have, even if it didn't get a finale. It's things like that make me think this person is prone to exaggeration for the sake of their point, and have me raising an eyebrow when they imply the cast of victorious was constantly doing Hard drugs. Also you should keep in mind this had to have been written by an actual person with their own bias, assumption and perspective. Just because bad things were happening and this person came to the conclusion that that was why the show was cancelled doesn't mean that's the exact truth. one possibility that I think is likely is that they saw the alcohol and weed and extrapolated from there. This person talks as if they are in other people's heads, and you probably shouldn't entirely trust that. "executives feared everyday ", "the network felt like they were rolling dice ", "the network didn't want a scandal "; phrases like that. unless they were one of those executives that had a hand in cancelling it (which I highly doubt) , how do they know exactly what the executives thought?

My dark theory is, that Nick bailed on Victoria, when the keyboard brigade started hating on her (Something that became stronger when Ariana blamed Victoria for the cancellation), while also pushing Ariana. Because Ariana didn’t have a show of her own she was quickly written into the iCarly spin-off alongside Jenette McCurdy (something Jenette was notified only a few days before filming for the show started).

Well ive heard it was so they could get Ariana to do Sam and cat but also Most nickelodeon shows just didn't have real conclusions if you ever re watch like Icarly was one of the few that had a real ending

Nick usually cancels shows after 3 seasons. Avatar, Danny Phantom and Victorious all ended around 60 episodes despite strong ratings is what I heard.

You usually need really strong ratings to get past this limit.

Cuz nickelodeon didn't want to do musicals anymore. That's the real reason

This is something we will never know

Tbh the ending of the show had boring reasons just like actors that play one character for years wanting to move on.. also there are contract on how many episodes some shows have, Disney/nickelodeon have the limit of between 53/60 episode for show then they order more episodes so they don't have to make new contracts, Victorious had three season but nickelodeon split the seasons so the rest of season 3 was actually season 4. Nickelodeon split the season without their knowledge, and cable television was slowly dying as the viewers were getting older, for reference the pilot episode was seen by 5.77 million people - victori-yes was seen by 2,886 million people so there's slight difference in the viewership evident ones, the last episode in production was actually the slap fight (but they aired victori-yes as the last episode) the slap fight was viewed by 2,734 million people, nickelodeon wanted to start new project so some shows have a long breaks between shooting so the production stops and the writers/production moves onto new project they are planning to release and that's what happened with Icarly/Victorious, some of the workers moved to Victorious as Icarly was on hiatus and the people were more focused on Victorious than icarly, and their last attempt was a spin-off they were planning two Gibby/Sam (joined/added by Cat) they didn't pick up Gibby so they continued with Sam&Cat and it was cancelled due to "drama" but also Ariana wanting to move on from child star status and wanting to start her own career, Victoria's tour was with Big Time Rush, she was scheduled to start her own tour which she herself described as "farewell" to Victorious AFTER the cancellation, her individual tours were cancelled so her solo was cancelled of favor of co- headlined tour with Big Time Rush associated albums were 24/seven and Victorious 3.0 songs., She released mostly promotional music or EP music. (And yes there's difference between the actors/production wanting to continue shooting and the network either greenlights it or denies it and the production is over, most viewers were icarly viewers as well, icarly ended November 23, 2012. and victorious ended February 2nd 2013 so it was matter of time really)

The show would've been cancelled either way either due to the network wanting a new project to attract new audiences or for the viewership/expired contracts it was matter of time.

And we know that substance issues were involved not just by Jennette (Sam) but Avan himself confirmed it.

Someone tl;dr it please? I can't listen for a while.

It used to be on his twitch. There’s some footage of it on the YouTube channel Victoriousclips.

Matt reveals a lot of stuff and is really close to the show.

Like it wasn't just the fact that Avan Jogia revealed they partied every night, but also that they always acquired dr*gs on set.

Ok why the downvote. Like I would write it here but it's better to listen to it.

Basically bc the Victorious set was a place where the minors could easily get dr*gs, and by the last season things were getting out of control in that matter, so it was better to cancel the show altogether. Apparently it had nothing to do with rating, viewership or Victoria wanting to go on tour alone. I will point out that this info is a blind item, which means that the identities of the people involved aren't revealed, so there are no names, but the info adds up to previously and more publicly known stuff about the show, so it's very likely that it is real, as well as other things revealed in the video.

It’s not Season 4, it’s technically the second half of Season 3, they just advertised it as Season 4. And no one knew it was getting cancelled, that’s why it ends the way it does.

From my understanding, Dan Schneider wasn’t as involved during Season 4 because he was developing another project that ended up falling through. So he wasn’t able to oversee the writing process like he used to

i do think season 4 is the worst but it still has a lot of great episodes. the slap fight wasn't that bad imo. opposite date is the one i hate the most

season 4 is so funny bc you can see when the actors knew they should cut but they just didn't lmao

Let's be honest, Sinjin, despite being the cause of the problem and getting dragged into the chaos, was the only sane man in the end.

kinda bummed, i thought season 3 was the best season far. it sucks too cause like you said at least victorious wasn’t cancelled on a cliffhanger. and the fact that we’ll never get to see a creddie wedding or carly’s mom…

there was so much more story to tell 😭

Neutral honestly

That sucked for Victoria.☹ But it looks like she confirmed here that Nick did label the second half of season 3 as season 4.

This pisses me off so much. Like what were the execs at nick thinking? It seriously boggles my mind whoever made that decision it frustrates me

I expect somebody from that show will spill the beans at some point. Obviously there was some drama involved

Omg the Kidd Kraddick morning show. As a kid I would wake up early on school days just lie in bed an extra hour and listen lmao. And pray the school bus has that station on.

This sounds really scandalous in this clip but I imagine Victoria was aware that the show would be drawing to an end that season. They split the third season as a way of sneaking in an extra season without the cast being able to renegotiate their contracts. I understand that they should have told Victoria directly when it was written in stone that they wouldn’t be returning - but every Nickelodeon and Disney show (with very few exceptions) ends on the third season or right before the crew can renegotiate their contracts. Victoria having been on Zoey 101 would have been familiar with the life expectancy of Victorious.

Here is an article where Zoey Bragg from Liv & Maddie discusses how after three seasons the cast can usually negotiate for higher rates: https://www.justjaredjr.com/2023/08/03/liv-maddie-star-joey-bragg-reveals-why-disney-channel-shows-change-their-title-after-3-seasons/

I understand Victoria would have liked a heads up when it was announced or confirmed the show was going to end, but there is a zero percent chance she was blindsided given she isn’t naive to how these shows work.

Honestly I feel bad for Victoria and the hate she received was unwarranted. The meme, ppl calling her untalented bc she’s not as successful as Ariana, mean girl rumors, and the hate for Tori translating onto her was probably too much. I heard that there was a reboot offered to her and she passed on it and honestly I would’ve too if I was her. And all through this she’s always kept a positive image.

I Honestly don't want a reboot because I feel like it'll ruin the original series. Also I feel like too many of the original characters wouldn't come back. HOWEVER, I would like the series to have a proper ending. Even if they made like a movie for Paramount+...I just want closure 😭😭😩

I mostly just want a Victorious character to cameo in iCarly

I don’t understand why people gave Victoria shit for that role. In my opinion, she is a great lead. I couldn’t even imagine the show with another lead.

The fandom doesn't even deserve reunions, remakes, cameos in the new ICarly. Or even a proper ending

I think it was had a lot to do with behind-the-scenes politics. Plus people REALLY ran with the narrative she was self centered.

I'm more disappointed that they both stood by Schneider when they have enough clout to get him cancelled. He probably knew that they were big enough stars that wouldn't have helped his cause so he backed off. And he preyed on types he knew had a small ceiling.

What ruined the Zoey 101 reunion in 2019 was they ate dinner at his house before they continued at the hotel.

Ariana always plays the victim in every situation, and people fawn over her because she's cute

hey everyone in here y’all can cool it on the ari hate too

whatever ari said back then has nothing to do with how nasty you’re being but okay

Ari threw her under the bus on Ask.FM later said she got tired of being blamed for the Victorious ending.

I mean, Victoria DID want to do a solo tour, and I doubt the kids actually got a real reason from the studio for the cancellation, so Ari was probably just going with what was the most plausible excuse at the time. They were all really young at the time, and the whole case was laid off for no apparent reason from by all accounts a really popular show they all had fun making. I'd be looking for someone to blame too, in her shoes.

but Ari could've immediately said it wasn't Victoria

I thought she did? How long after the magazine came out did Ari address it? I know she wrote a blog post about it and I thought it was the day of the magazine release.

Liz could have done the same thing especially because she had to know who was bullying Ari

Depends, really. No idea how close they were at the time of the show, how much of it Liz saw. Also its not really Liz's story to tell. Imagine you speak about an incident that happened in your past, being deliberately vague so as not to cause a big drama, then someone you knew back then specifically points at the person you were alluding to without asking you first. Shit situation for everyone.