Overview and Financial Success
The box office performance of "The Sinner" has been a topic of discussion, with some users noting that the film grossed $161,097,183 worldwide [4]. This figure indicates that the movie doubled its budget, which is generally considered the 'break-even' point in the film industry. Doubling the budget means the film covered both production and marketing costs, making it a financial success, albeit narrowly
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Release and Revenue Considerations
It's important to note that the global box office numbers do not account for all potential revenue streams. The film had not been released in all countries at the time of reporting, and digital sales were expected to contribute additional revenue [4:3]. Therefore, while the initial box office figures suggest moderate success, the overall financial picture might be more favorable once all revenue sources are considered.
Perception of Success
Despite achieving financial success, there was some debate about whether "The Sinner" could be considered a hit or a flop. Some commenters expressed relief that the film wasn't an outright flop and noted that it still had time to earn more money [4:4]. Others highlighted the irony of early predictions of failure, emphasizing that patience and quality can lead to eventual success
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Industry Context
In the broader context of the film industry, the performance of "The Sinner" reflects a common trend where films may not achieve blockbuster status but still manage to be profitable. As discussed in other threads, many movies today face challenges in reaching the high box office numbers seen in previous years due to various factors beyond just the quality of the film [2:5]
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Get the combo boxes they give over 60 bps per 375 crowns...we are maxing this car too.
Yeah, I got 74, 58 & 54 Macan BPs out of the 3 combos I bought and then bought singles after that as I only needed 30 more to max the Macan.
Hmm, as per this screenshot it may be safe to assume that prices are the same as the Boosted Boxes based on the Car Classes, first Legacy Box was for an S-Class car and there are not S-Class Boosted Boxes so we couldn't check then but if the next Car Unleashed/Hunt car is C or B-Class maybe we can verify this
the combo box gives over 60 bps..my car is maxed...from level 36 to 50.
I think we got one more ,i am hoping for 2 , unleashed/carhunt before summer ends.. So we will verify this haha. but my question is with the same price, does the box give the same results as the regular box this time around. So who is getting one or combo, please post your results....I am gonna try a few combos and then a few singles to see how it goes. Hopefully the next one is the TRK.
Nice legacy box. Got 67, 67 and 60 macan so far from 3xcombo boxes š
My Macan is lvl 31 now, got 243 bps, need a total 404... 161 bps missing. So 3 legacy boxes still needed = 1125 crowns. I have 306 crowns now. Must collect 819 crowns more. IF I remember to collect crowns the next many days... it should be enough for lvl 50. It's gonna be tight š
dont forget tonight free daily 67 crown from the daily login calendar and the sunday 100. So 167 is in the bank and 67 again on Monday from the calendar,daily login. That makes 234 so you only need about 585.. with the daily 115 that is 5 days..and some of the events will give you some too, you got spare crowns , my friend. And if you play the mastery you get 46...so you need less than 585..more like 520. LOL
Sadly no, not for my part at least... I've been degraded on that calendar š„ŗ I get now only 22 crowns tomorrow and then only 22 again Tuesday. How revolting! š” A lousy way to treat a senior driver! š
But yes, still get 100 crowns... and will scoop a few from mastery, daily goals etc. As long as the combo boxes don't let me down, I'll make it š
No i never drive the bentley so far I got 6 maxed cars, but tbh I mostly drive the lancer, r5, suzuki and focus⦠my plan is to max the cayman
hhhmm, the cayman is a tough one to max..requires a lot of tools, check that....The cayman gets events regularly, so you dont have to worry about it..it becomes everybody's final 3 cars to max...well maybe, i cant say that for certain, you could even prove me wrong on that. But with 6 cars maxed..you can probably max more other A cars faster. it is time for you to start your spreadsheet , to see which car is closest to reaching 50 and requieres the least amount of effort to get there.
The reason I think you should max this car if you can is because the next event for this car could be 9 months from now or even 12 months from now...the last event for it was in december 2024, there maybe some bps for it in the anniversary event again, but maybe not....You dont have to max it, but do collect all the bps necessarry to get their now...or as much as possible. The actual maxing, you can do on your own time.
Is it worth it, compared to the cayman it is more fun to ride and it is pretty fast at 50. i think some will actually ride it in world clash. Since yesterday I have encountered a few in world clash and they keep up...the R5 is ofcourse still the master, lol
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Now adjust those numbers for inflation. AntMan jumps to $705, and Iron Man up to $875,
Mind you, this only puts movies like Shang-Chi and Captain America a bit over $500 mil, so theyāre in about the same range, but letās not make it look more successful than it is.
Itās an over 20 year long running franchise where to truly get the most out of it you need to watch the majority of the content which amounts to like 50 movies now and over a dozen shows. Over 20 years you will have offboarded more people then you will have onboarded itās just simple numbers.
It underperformed by like $200 mil. Stop making excuses.
200 Million lol? what make you think a F4 movie can make 750 Million Easily when the highest Grossing F4 movie before 2025 only made 330 Million and Last Mcu Non Sequal movie to Hit 500 Million was 6 Years ago Your making things up in the Air
I really wish we could stop talking about box office so much. Movies arenāt going to reach the Infinity War levels anymore, there are so many factors beyond quality that have caused that. Itās a shame that Thunderbolts and F4 were both some of my favorite marvel movies of all time and all anyone can talk about is how big of flops they are.
Superman is the most well known character in the world and barely made $600 million. The box office isn't what it used to be.
#1 Film in Ticket Sales & Box Office
Weekend 35/25 (August 28th, 2025-August 31st, 2025) Top 20 in Ticket Sales:
Nr. | Film | Weekend Ticket Sales | Drop | Total Ticket Sales | Weekend | Theaters | Average | Final Total (Prediction) |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | Manitou“s Canoe (NCO) | 545,629 | -28% | 2,658,253 | 3 | 797 | 685 | 4.5M |
2 | The Bad Guys 2 (U) | 121,359 | --- | 147,380 | New | 561 | 216 | 700K |
3 | Materialists (COL) | 79,502 | -32% | 285,377 | 2 | 562 | 141 | 500K |
4 | Sound of Falling (NV) | 60,359 | --- | 71,399 | New | 179 | 337 | 300K |
5 | The Roses (BV) | 55,902 | --- | 67,757 | New | 483 | 116 | 250K |
6 | Weapons (WB) | 44,067 | -26% | 360,878 | 4 | 414 | 106 | 500K |
7 | Kangaroo (SC) | 43,544 | -25% | 122,442 | 2 | 574 | 76 | 350K |
8 | Smurfs (COL) | 31,606 | -28% | 917,986 | 7 | 577 | 55 | 1.05M |
9 | Jurassic World Rebirth (U) | 27,943 | -37% | 2,362,570 | 9 | 361 | 77 | 2.45M |
10 | Nobody 2 (U) | 16,401 | -42% | 62,270 | 2 | 323 | 51 | 100K |
11 | The Naked Gun (COL) | 17,167 | -44% | 469,696 | 5 | 328 | 52 | 525K |
12 | Caught Stealing (COL) | 14,560 | --- | 14,560 | New | 226 | 64 | 40K |
13 | Bring Her Back (COL) | 13,374 | -31% | 82,151 | 3 | 244 | 55 | 110K |
--- | Andre Rieu's 2025 Maastricht Concert (POM) | 13,230 | --- | 13,230 | New | 284 | 47 | 13K |
14 | Lilo & Stitch (BV) | 12,520 | -18% | 3,241,122 | 15 | 368 | 34 | 3.3M |
15 | Colours of Time (SC) | 10,769 | -41% | 64,840 | 3 | 105 | 103 | 125K |
16 | Grand Prix of Europe (WB) | 9,958 | -34% | 300,420 | 6 | 285 | 35 | 350K |
17 | The Salt Path (DCM) | 9,891 | -18% | 346,341 | 7 | 220 | 45 | 400K |
18 | The Fantastic 4 - First Steps (BV) | 8,435 | -52% | 633,967 | 6 | 197 | 43 | 650K |
19 | When Fall Is Coming (WTK) | 8,039 | --- | 13,946 | New | 115 | 70 | 60K |
20 | F1 - The Movie (WB) | 7,776 | -55% | 1,204,005 | 10 | 180 | 43 | 1.25M |
Nr. | Weekend Ticket Sales | Theaters | Average | Change from Last Weekend | Change from Last Year | Top 10 Year Total (as of last Weekend) |
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Top 10 | 1,026,312 | 4,831 | 212 | -13% | 79 | 39.953M |
Top 20 | 1,138,801 | 7,099 | 160 | -13% | 74 | -5% below 2024 |
Weekend 35/25 (August 28th, 2025-August 31st, 2025) Top 20 in Box Office:
Nr. | Film | Weekend Box Office | Drop | Total Box Office | Weekend | Theaters | Average | Final Total (Prediction) |
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1 | ManitouĀ“s Canoe (NCO) | ā¬5,850,175 | -27.4% | ā¬27,940,287 | 3 | 797 | ā¬7,340 | ā¬45M |
2 | The Bad Guys 2 (U) | ā¬1,172,683 | --- | ā¬1,402,716 | New | 561 | ā¬2,090 | ā¬5.8M |
3 | Materialists (COL) | ā¬862,926 | -32.5% | ā¬2,983,282 | 2 | 562 | ā¬1,535 | ā¬5M |
4 | Sound of Falling (NV) | ā¬649,239 | --- | ā¬764,093 | New | 179 | ā¬3,627 | ā¬2.8M |
5 | The Roses (BV) | ā¬603,147 | --- | ā¬712,539 | New | 483 | ā¬1,249 | ā¬2.4M |
6 | Weapons (WB) | ā¬512,697 | -24% | ā¬3,958,154 | 4 | 414 | ā¬1,238 | ā¬5.4M |
7 | Kangaroo (SC) | ā¬368,452 | -26.9% | ā¬1,037,852 | 2 | 574 | ā¬642 | ā¬2.75M |
8 | Jurassic World Rebirth (U) | ā¬330,532 | -37.1% | ā¬28,428,270 | 9 | 361 | ā¬916 | ā¬29.4M |
9 | Smurfs (COL) | ā¬265,601 | -27.4% | ā¬7,640,073 | 7 | 577 | ā¬460 | ā¬8.6M |
--- | Andre Rieu's 2025 Maastricht Concert (POM) | ā¬237,171 | --- | ā¬237,171 | New | 284 | ā¬835 | ā¬237K |
10 | The Naked Gun (COL) | ā¬189,125 | -42.8% | ā¬4,940,571 | 5 | 328 | ā¬577 | ā¬5.5M |
11 | Nobody 2 (U) | ā¬175,217 | -42.1% | ā¬620.293 | 2 | 323 | ā¬542 | ā¬975K |
12 | Caught Stealing (COL) | ā¬149,077 | --- | ā¬149,077 | New | 226 | ā¬660 | ā¬350K |
13 | Bring Her Back (COL) | ā¬145,548 | -29.7% | ā¬806,955 | 3 | 244 | ā¬597 | ā¬1.075M |
14 | Colours of Time (SC) | ā¬107,673 | -41.9% | ā¬630,274 | 3 | 105 | ā¬1,025 | ā¬1.15M |
15 | Lilo & Stitch (BV) | ā¬104,667 | -21.1% | ā¬31,514,260 | 15 | 368 | ā¬284 | ā¬31.95M |
16 | F1 - The Movie (WB) | ā¬97,238 | -54.8% | ā¬14,560,792 | 10 | 180 | ā¬540 | ā¬15M |
17 | The Fantastic 4 - First Steps (BV) | ā¬95,137 | -49.3% | ā¬7,256,529 | 6 | 197 | ā¬483 | ā¬7.425M |
18 | The Salt Path (DCM) | ā¬93,007 | -18.9% | ā¬3,348,380 | 7 | 220 | ā¬423 | ā¬3.8M |
19 | Grand Prix of Europe (WB) | ā¬82,520 | -32.3% | ā¬2,374,293 | 6 | 285 | ā¬290 | ā¬2.7M |
20 | When Fall Is Coming (WTK) | ā¬75,968 | --- | ā¬114,664 | New | 115 | ā¬661 | ā¬500K |
Other Newcomers:
Film | Weekend Ticket Sales | Theaters | Average |
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Bride Hard | 6,011 | 243 | 25 |
Detective Conan - One-eyed Flashback | 5,321 | 166 | 32 |
Ausgsting. | 4,801 | 74 | 65 |
Weekend 34/25: https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1n0mk2v/german_comedxy_sequel_the_canoe_of_manitou/
Weekend 35/24: https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/1f9me0c/hot_weather_and_national_cinema_weekend_during/
Last WeekendĀ“s Nr. 1: ManitouĀ“s CanoeĀ“s 2nd Weekend (760,077 tickets -2% & ā¬8,053,065 -2.7%)
Nr. 1 from this Weekend 1 year ago: It Ends with UsĀ“ 3rd Weekend (135,149 tickets -36% & ā¬1,491,074 -36%)
The Bad Guys Films:
|Film|Opening Weekend (Ticket Sales)|Theaters (Opening Weekend)|Average (Opening Weekend)|Opening Weekend (Box Office)|Final Total (Ticket Sales)|Final Total (Box Office)|Biggest Theater Count|Release Date| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |The Bad Guys|118,218|545|217|ā¬929,320|892,500|ā¬6,492,824|607|March 17th, 2022| |The Bad Guys 2|121,359|561|216|ā¬1,172,683|147,380+|ā¬1,402,716+|561(+)|August 28th, 2025|
Excluded (due to lack of Opening Weekend data): Trolls - World Tour (Would“ve been the Lowest Opening Weekend. A few hundred, maybe thousand tickets at most)
Top 10 Lowest DreamWorks Animation Opening Weekends:
|Nr.|Film|Opening Weekend (Ticket Sales)|Theaters|Average|Opening Weekend (Box Office)|Release Date| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |1|Dog Man|18,221|487|37|ā¬156,361|April 10th, 2025| |2|Captain Underpants - The First Epic Movie|24,384|409|60|ā¬182,134|October 12th, 2017| |3|Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken|44,552|441|101|ā¬357,821|June 29th, 2023| |4|Spirit - Untamed|45,976|403|114|ā¬329,370|July 22nd, 2021| |5|Abominable|83,537|514|163|ā¬637,135|September 26th, 2019| |6|The Boss Baby - Family Buisness|84,947|523|162|ā¬664,524|October 14th, 2021| |7|The Bad Guys|118,218|545|217|ā¬929,320|March 17th, 2022| |8|Home|119,240|620|192|ā¬908,798|March 26th, 2015| |9|Puss in Boots - The Last Wish|120,980|606|200|ā¬1,041,812|December 22nd, 2022| |10|The Bad Guys 2|121,359|561|216|ā¬1,172,683|August 28th, 2025| |Dropped Out|Sinbad - Legend of the Seven Seas|124,635|499|250|ā¬???|July 24th, 2003|
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Germany“s entry for Best International Feature at the next Oscars was Sound of Falling and it heavily overperformed expectations and is now set for a long and successful run in german arthouse movie theaters.
The Roses (2025) technically had a bigger Opening Weekend than the original (20,065 tickets during it“s Opening Week!), but that“s because the original only opened in 5 theaters. It“s first Weekend in wide release (100+ theaters) was a lot bigger with 435,821 tickets sold during it“s first wide release weekend.
Still, at least The Roses had some audiences, unlike Caught Stealing and Bride Hard which were completely DOA.
The War of the Roses Films:
|Film|Opening Weekend (Ticket Sales)|Theaters (Opening Weekend)|Average (Opening Weekend)|Opening Weekend (Box Office)|Final Total (Ticket Sales)|Final Total (Box Office)|Biggest Theater Count|Release Date| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |The War of the Roses (1989)|435,821 (Opening Week: 20,065)|248 (Opening Week: 5)|1,757 (Opening Week: 4,013)|ā¬???|4,179,128|ā¬19,015,024|366|February 22nd, 1990| |The Roses (2025)|55,902|483|116|ā¬603,147|67,757+|ā¬712,539+|483(+)|August 28th, 2025|
Darren Aronofsky Directing Filmography:
|Film|Opening Weekend (Ticket Sales)|Theaters (Opening Weekend)|Average (Opening Weekend)|Opening Weekend (Box Office)|Final Total (Ticket Sales)|Final Total (Box Office)|Biggest Theater Count|Release Date| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |Pi|8,022|21|382|ā¬???|47,775|ā¬???|21(+)|April 8th, 1999| |Requiem for a Dream|874|3|291|ā¬???|10,154|ā¬???|3(+)|January 3rd, 2002| |The Fountain|10,298|33|312|ā¬???|30,405|ā¬???|33(+)|January 18th, 2007| |The Wrestler|36,562|97|377|ā¬???|132,024|ā¬???|97(+)|February 26th, 2009| |Black Swan|267,382|306|874|ā¬???|2,196,897|ā¬15,465,777|526|January 20th, 2011| |Noah|212,051|502|422|ā¬???|808,707|ā¬8,636,439|558|April 3rd, 2014| |Mother!|69,895|350|200|ā¬646,238|194,608|ā¬1,716,347|358|September 14th, 2017| |The Whale|30,784|161|191|ā¬295,648|151,658|ā¬1,332,843|216|April 27th, 2023| |Caught Stealing|14,560|226|64|ā¬149,077|14,560+|ā¬149,077+|226(+)|August 28th, 2025|
Top 10 Biggest 3rd Weekends since the Pandemic started:
Avatar: The Way of Water - 1,067,150 tickets +45% (9th Biggest 3rd Weekend since 1987!)
No Time to Die - 711,700 tickets -23%
Barbie - 702,316 tickets -15%
The Super Mario Bros. Movie - 549,314 tickets -41%
Manitouās Canoe - 545,629 tickets -28%
Oppenheimer - 522,527 tickets -13%
Inside Out 2 - 502,716 tickets -25%
Moana 2 - 444,725 tickets -38%
A Minecraft Movie - 416,783 tickets -26%
Mufasa: The Lion King - 406,195 tickets -21%
Dropped Out: Despicable Me 4 - 401,885 tickets +11%
Top 5 Biggest Director Michael "Bully" Herbig 3rd Weekends:
Manitou“s Shoe - 752,393 tickets +22.5%
(T)Raumschiff Surprise: Periode 1 - 694,567 tickets -41.5%
Manitouās Canoe - 545,629 tickets -28%
Vicky the Viking (2009) - 442,389 tickets -34.1%
Lissi and the Wild Emperor - 270,685 tickets -48%
Dropped Out: Bullyparade: The Movie - 256,687 tickets +1%
Top 10 Biggest Disney Live Action Remakes/ Reboots:
The Lion King (2019) - 5,660,660 tickets
Beauty and the Beast (2017) - 3,430,954 tickets
Lilo & Stitch (2025) - 3,241,122 tickets
Mufasa: The Lion King - 2,971,978 tickets (+1)
Alice in Wonderland (2010) - 2,970,953 tickets (-1)
101 Dalmatians (1996) - 2,379,343 tickets
102 Dalmatians - 2,088,825 tickets
Aladdin (2019) - 2,019,630 tickets
The Jungle Book (2016) - 1,877,157 tickets
Maleficent - 1,466,508 tickets
Excluded (due to lack of 9th Weekend data): Jurassic Park III
Top 6 Biggest Jurassic 9th Weekends:
Jurassic Park - 153,964 tickets -34.8%
Jurassic World Dominion - 41,064 tickets -28%
Jurassic World - 33,341 tickets -42%
Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom - 31,020 tickets -19%
The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 30,072 tickets -11.6%
Jurassic World Rebirth - 27,943 tickets -37%
It previously had the 8th Lowest Opening Weekend of an MCU movie and the 3rd Lowest 5th Weekend of an MCU movie.
Excluded (due to lack of 6th Weekend data: Ant-Man (Less than 9,921 tickets), Captain America: The Winter Soldier (Between 15,004 tickets & 10,000 tickets), Captain America: The First Avenger (Less than 5,386 tickets), Thor, Iron Man 2 (Monday-Sunday: 13,855 tickets -60.4%), The Incredible Hulk (Less than 4,051 tickets), Iron Man
Top 10 Lowest MCU 6th Weekends:
The Marvels - 6,076 tickets -46%
The FantastIc Four: First Steps - 8,435 tickets -52%
Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - 13,509 tickets -50%
Iron Man 3 - 15,438 tickets -71%
Black Widow - 15,784 tickets -56% (Released simultaneously on Disney+ Premiere Access)
Eternals - 16,211 tickets -25%
Thor: The Dark World - 17,906 tickets -45%
Spider-Man: Homecoming - 18,663 tickets -52%
Thunderbolts* - 19,335 tickets -45%
Ant-Man and the Wasp - 20,968 tickets -45%
Dropped Out: Captain America: Civil War - 22,584 tickets -52%
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Manitou is the native american guy yes? Are they still using germans or balkan guys to portray them?
Yes but no. In this movie we get actual native Americans at the end. Also through the magic of Retcon, the two main native American characters turn out to actually have been adopted the entire time.
Yes. I think the original idea was to make fun of the old german Winnetou movies by making it extremely obvious. For example they speak in a thick bavarian accent.
So it's officially grossed double its budget. I think that's generally treated as the 'safe' mark. :D
In the movie industry this is the ābreak evenā point. Generally to calculate the cost of the movie, you double its budget. Half to make the movie, half for the marketing.
This movie is now officially success, but by the skin of its teeth.
(Iām a fan of this movie and this series Iām just bringing facts to the table. I want it to do well, but I donāt think this is it)
Tbf This is the just the overall worldwide box office numbers, and it hasn't been released in all countries yet as far I know. Also if you factor in movie being available for purchase digitally, the movie overall revenue should be much higher.
That's fair. At the very least it wasn't a flop outright, and there's still a bit more time to make in money, especially since some countries haven't started screening it yet.
It's run hasn't ended yet.
It did
And the irony is that before a couple of hours I posted a post about some dude in youtube who said this movie flopped. he needs to see this. XD
Bad Guys 2 is a box office success
I want to see the faces of these people who said the movie flopped
Oh? See? Patience (and actual quality products) pays off. Now people can stop acting like the 2nd movie is a mistake or a flop and no longer spam doompostin'.
Yeepiee
Yes
WE ARE!
If there's one thing that these guys have that we need more of in this world, it's hope.
Hi, need help finding this movie that was usually on the syfy channel about convicts renovating an abandoned building while living there and they get picked off one by one by an evil entity.
It was not the movie prison from 1987
It was not the movie session 9 from 2001
Any help is appreciated
See no evil?
Do you know roughly the decade? 70's 80's 90's 00's?
Early to mid 2000s
Dam it, was almost sure it was The Evil (1978) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077524/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk
Furnace (2007) ?
Interesting movie I might watch it but no, itās not
Sounds like Villmark Asylum (2015)
Is it Death Row (2006)? If not, maybe House of 9 (2005)?
Both look interesting, but itās neither of those
āGrand Openin, Grand Closināā
One of my favorite box office runs ever, and one of my favorite films of the decade. Excited for its awards season run
Is it expected to snag any nominations at the Academy?
Itās currently the most predicted/obvious BP candidate next to Sentimental Value - both from online spaces and industry pundits. Of course it could change months from now but thatās where things stand.
Cooglerās last three movies (two of which were superhero related) all got ATL love from the Academy and Sinners is arguably his best received yet while being completely original.
I am no one, keep that in mind. But I'm usually good for calling these to a degree. And then every once in a while Im hilariously off by a mile.
I think Jordan could snag a few circuit award noms for acting, and if the fall doesn't produce a lot of stellar options, he could get an Oscar nom/golden globe nom.
He really was very good.
Nomination for score is very possible, as is set design, costume design, cinematography, direction, and maybe if they really push for it, best picture.
But I personally feel it should be nominated for editing.
Im not saying it will be nominated for all of those, or even any of them, but I imagine there will be quite a few "for your consideration" ad campaigns.
Sinners is #11 at the world wide box office
it ain't a sequel
it isn't based on any IP
It's not a remake
It's the highest rated movie of the year so far
"Evacuate the city! Engage all defenses! And get this man a oscar!
Itās not a remake of from dusk till dawn?
I think there was a bit of inspiration taken from there, but Sinners is so much more, and so much better. And I say that as someone who loves From Dusk Till Dawn.
Favorite film of the year still. Happy to see it almost did $300M domestic
A 5.80x multiplier, and a rare "A" on CinemaScore for a horror. Stuff like this almost never happens for a horror film, especially without the help of holidays. You have to go all the way to stuff like Aliens or Poltergeist just to find a horror film that achieved something like this.
I'm excited for whatever Ryan Coogler does next. WB would be a fool to let him go when he's done with Black Panther III.
Also ends its run with the honor of the being the first live action orginal movie to gross over 270 million since Gravity in 2013.
Would love that. I had the opportunity to see it in theaters but passed, not knowing that it was the last night it was playing anywhere within 100 miles of me. Definitely regret not going!
I convinced my wife, who hates horror, to give it a shot last night and she loved it.
Highly common Sinners W.
It does keep getting Ws, and Iām happy for it, I just really didnāt love the movie. Was totally immersed in it until the vampires. Which is weird because I am a horror guy, but it almost felt way too generically horror at that point. I think the better story was whatever the brothers were up to in Chicago.
That, and it barely felt like actual horror. Like early seasons Buffy The Vampire Slayer was more along the lines of horror than the āhorrorā sinners tried to be. Very solid film regardless, but I canāt understand why people call it a horror film.
And right now, this is the biggest Best Picture Oscar candidate, though anything can happen in next few months.
Also quite amazing that we have two movies from the 70s in the top 5
Crazy to think that a movie with like 5 types of vomit and with a possessed girl masturbating with a cross did that much
Best decade for horror imo. You also have Texas Chain Saw, Carrie, Alien, The Omen, Halloween, Dawn of the Dead, Black Christmas, The Wicker Man, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, just an absolutely stacked decade.
A more obvious omission is The Sixth Sense (1999).
Viewed as Action, not Horror, interestingly enough.
If giving birth by C section to an alien on screen doesn't turn a film into horror then I don't know what does
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Itās horror sci-fi. Should still be considered horror if Romulus counts.
~1.84 million more needed to unseat The Hangover's 277.33 million from the top 10 biggest R-rated grosser's list.
I'm scared...I want it to happen in its original run but if it doesn't then we have Oscar season re-releases to help out. But with 28 years later coming next weekend I'm afraid it's gonna get booted from theaters finally. Maybe 600k next weekend and another 500k over the weekdays. It can still make it in the original run but it's gonna be real close.
WB is dumb not pushing a Juneteenth event. Give out some stuff in theaters for select showings to commemorate the day.
That would've been a cool move on Abdy and DeLuca's part. This film over performed at the box office and is doing damn good on digital right now. Just going off of the YT reactions to Sinners, this film will clean up in the ancillary.
The movie still earns money on weekdays, it will absolutely unseat The Hangover before ending its initial run.
275 million domestic and it's still not profitable ~ Variety
"We reran the numbers Sinners needed to make 90000000000000 Sinbillion dollars to be profitable"
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Two more wide releases coming this weekend will basically end Sinners run.
Its going to finish at 277-278m.
The end of year domestic box office will be filled with live action remakes, sequels, superhero stuff.....Sinners will stick out like a sore thumb. I'm glad one movie that wasn't the same old junk broke out.
I actually wouldnāt be surprised if it gets a rerelease during the fall/awards season which adds on another 5+ million after this initial run.
Kinda wondering if there will be a big enough Juneteenth bump to push it over 280 but probably not
If it got re-released into a few hundred more theaters for Juneteenth then I could see it happening
Very happy for black cinema, need more original big picture films doing well.
That's bigger than Deadpool 3's 5th Wednesday ($1.78M for Sinners vs $1.62M for Deadpool 3)
20 years from now: āSinners grossed an estimated $50,000 from a single theater in Texasās ānostalgia weekā rereleaseā
Theyāll definitely try to wring every dollar out of it before the rights revert to Coogler.
More than Deadpool and Wolverine 5th Wednesday and that made another $54M from here for $636M.
That would get it $300M exactly but obviously MI and Lilo are going to cut its leg.
Hoping for IMAX push end of summer if it does $290M+.
Tom Cruise wants it back in the theaters for August. I thought it was sweet he was talking about it at Cannes I believe.
Is there a decent chance it comes back to IMAX theaters again this year? Today was its last day for IMAX 70mm and Iām bummed that I couldnāt make it
Probably for an end of year Oscar push.
I've seen it twice by myself, and am taking my BFF this weekend. He never goes to the movies, so it's a big deal that I was able to convince him. It needs to be seen in the theater.
TBF, I rarely go more than once, so it's huge that I'll have gone 3 times.
I really think it is people seeing it multiple times. I just went my 3rd time.
saw it 3 times and was content but then somehow convinced 16 of my friends to see it in imax, now they are on their second rewatch and telling coworkers about it. word of mouth for sinners is insane!!
They really didnāt.
There is no way they could have fit vampires into the multiverse stuff.
Unless it was just its own weird standalone movie unconnected from everything else and they arenāt about that at all.
There was no way a project that was green lit solely because they wanted to put āstarring 2X Oscar winner mahershala aliā on a title card was going to turn out good.
Them not wanting to do it at all is part of the reason why not even a single scene was ever filmed lmao.
Outgrossing Thunderbolts domestically is WILD. R rated, black-led ORIGINAL film taking Disney/Marvel to school like this is a story for the books šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼šš¼
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2153611265/
I think it may reach 330m.
And that's only in it's theatrical run.
Can we know just claim it as a success, both critically and commercially?
Even if it's isn't a homer money wise (as an original, I think it is), at the very least it's a solid double.
Iām sorry, I know this is a really alluring idea, but itās kind of just wrong a lot of the time. The thing is, people donāt do that unless the movie breaks into a higher level of social awareness like Sinners did.
Black Bag, Mickey 17, Novocaine, Juror no. 2, Love Hurts, Challengers, Horizon part - all original movies in a variety of genres in the last few years. Some of them were tracking to do a lot better, some of them tested extremely well, some reviewed amazingly. They didnāt break through. There still a ton more original movies that that fail than make it.
Ya, exactly. If compelling original films were regularly huge success then Sinners wouldnāt have been wrapped up in all this tribalism. This is definitely not the norm nor an expectation to be met.
Considering it was budgeted at $90m and is gonna make over $255m+ domestic, I think that's an unqualified homer.
The general rule of thumb is 2.5x budget to make a profit theatrically.
So it would have needed $225m to make a profit theatrically using that measure and itās going to clear that by $100m.
This is a massive unqualified success financially. Before any ancillaries or PVOD itās going to clear at a minimum $50m in profit for a $90m investment. Thatās fantastic.
I really want to see how it does on home release compared to similar movies. Pretty much everyone I know who saw it is planning on buying either a disc or PVOD day one.
I completely agree.
The 2.5x budget thing (like you said) is just a rule of thumb, the studios famously do some dark math to try to prove that movies that were huge box office mega hit "lost money actually, sorry can't pay you your profit share". I believe Ed Somon said that Warners still claims the first Men in Black never made any money.
But I do think the 2.5x budget is our best proxy and with that the movie is already in the green with some money to spare only theatrical. Any VOD, television, airplanes etc money is just extra cash coming in, and there is a lot of money to be made in that.
Everyone should be proud and happy, and that's only talking economics.
The movie slaps.
Canāt wait for the headline: āCooglerās R-rated Horror Curio SINNERS Eked Out $300 Million at the Box Office ā But at What Cost?ā
And then they just publish another article quoting anonymous Hollywood insiders wringing their hands about devaluing the studio system and murdering the industry.
It really is incredible. Variety gave the most ridiculous, seemingly impossible measure of success to cast this movie in a bad light, and Sinners still would up meeting it.
Always fun to watch film executives try to calvinball what will make this movie successful and the see the movie overachieve anyway.
This is definitely one of those blank checks that gets the director like 4 more blank checks (like Inception was for Nolan).
Crazy itāll only make like half of what Inception did.
Thatās a movie that set Nolan up for life.
I really don't think it's a movie problem to be honest. It's a moviegoer / theater problem.
People don't want to leave their homes unless something enters the #discourse which Sinners did ā everyone was talking about it. These kind of buzzy movies are lightning in a bottle and they happen once or twice a year.
I absolutely love going to my local indie theater ā I donate yearly and go all the time with my wife. We're huge fans of da moviesh though (obviously since I'm here lol). A more movie-neutral crowd just doesn't want to pay $17 a head to sit in a multiplex where people are talking and on their phones most of the time. We go to AMC way less than we used to because the behavior during movies has reached an all-time low.
I see both sides. I think movies could definitely be better, and when a good one hits, it's amazing for everyone (Sinners), but I also see why consumers aren't giving theaters their dollars as freely anymore.
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