I downloaded the books online and I’m waiting for the paper version to came in the Mail but I some help: in the books I downloaded there’s no mention, at all, to the debutante ball that appears in the trailer.. is my book missing something? Or is something new in the tv show??

This is a SERIES!!???!? I just finished It’s Not Summer Without You and the ending made NO sense. Perhaps this is why…. Duh. I feel like an idiot. Haha!

the book series broke me and i hate it, ++++ i hate the series even more

they did a rather bad job at setting the scene for the relationships between belly, conrad, and jeremiah. but seriously, though… too angsty? just out of curiosity, how exactly would you react to being the only person who knows that your mom is dying of cancer, then to know that your parents are getting separated, you’ve just broken up with your first girlfriend, you just quit the thing you’d been working on for your whole life (football), you’re supposed to be going away to college in the fall FOR the thing you quit, and now one of your best friends shows up and you realize you love her - but because of your relationship with/to her, you might never be able to have her. OH and then to top it all of, you’re 17, with the hormones and emotional capacity of a 17 year old… how exactly would you expect someone who’s going through all of that to act?

I’m watching the tv show (very easy, albeit a bit cheesy, watching by the way) and I was a little confused by the brothers’ dynamic with Belly on screen. Specifically Jeremiah’s; is he portrayed as flirtatious with everybody else in the books as well? And with this poll I assume both of them like Belly romantically?

Conrad is an ugly loser. Y’all are cap’n

Honestly, the show has had me in such a chokehold for years that I might NEED it to end. I will miss this community, but for the sake of my mental health I need to think about it less, LOL!

Nope. No. Not talking about the ending. Nope. I'm not ready. Seriously not ready. Bye.

It hasn't hit me yet lol. I can barely wait for next Wednesday, I just want the whole thing to be out. I guess when it hits that it's over, I'll just cope by rewatching it on a loop lmao 😭

I am at Belly level of denial. I’ll have a gummy in a few months while I am dancing, experience life changing montages in my head and finally accept my new reality.

I'm really sad to see it end because it's been such a fun part of my weeks during the summer, although I will say, the discourse this season has swung from so high to so low, that a part of me is excited for the general public to stop percieving it. lol

This is what I mean when I say jelly writers write even better than jenny han lol. Also, this hurt a lot 🥲

> We were sitting on the porch, the one that had seen too many versions of us. Her legs were curled beneath her, and her fingers played with a loose thread on the cushion, like they needed something to hold on to.

Stelena memories, anyone? The porch break up. But it hurts remembering just how deep Jeremiah and Belly went. How they’ve known so much versions of one another just to have to let each other go.

> There were so many things I wanted to say. That I would’ve married her. That I had pictured her in every version of my future. That she was the soundtrack to every summer I ever loved.

Also this entire reading was an assault on my heart. But this passage hurt me the most. It’s so in tune with Jeremiah. I feel like the “I still love you” in b3 alluded to this. There were probably so many things he wanted to say to her, but he knew he had to let her go finally.

It was 3 AM and I couldn’t sleep and this passage certainly won’t help me sleep either. Gonna listen to sad songs and think of jelly haha.

But very beautifully written. I loved reading this!

😭💔 heart wrenching but beautiful! Jeremiah is the only respectable character in this series who deserves someone way better tbh.

This is beautiful 😭 send this to Jenny immediately. If we don’t get our Jelly endgame, this is the ending I want for them then. 

Oh my god my heart stopped when I was reading this. I got all emotional. I had to sit back in my chair and contemplate on the whole passage. It’s quite beautiful. It’s flawless.

From the heart, thanks.

This is so well done… beautifully tragic and now I’m crying. 😭

Someone with an arc pls spoil if he’s alive I’m a mess lmao

The ending was DEVASTATING! So many questions left unanswered… Did Nadir actually die? Did he betray her (I don’t think so but still?) What about the Evanescence and their call on Lor to become the next Zerra? Part of me thinks that Nadir’s death would push her towards actually following that path.

November can’t come soon enough

I’m about to start reading book 3 - book 2 is good but Lor is annoying me …she’s lying to herself in denial and it’s giving immature … she was so fast to give it all too Atlas but Nadir is so clearly not Atlas please tell me she finally allows them to be mates in book 3 i’m tired of this shit … and idk if it’s the narrator but she’s so fickle and whiny !!! 

When has it spicy

i know i don’t think he would have betrayed her like that but i was heartbroken i really hope he will somehow come back alive but if you read the blurb of the 4th book its doesn’t seem like it but im praying 😭😭

If you read Believe Me you get to see the start of the main lead up to the wedding, also kind of ends it a bit nicer

Season one only scratched the surface of the books. There is so much more to come.

Also this is one of the only times I'll say it, but the show is actually better than the books.

Potential spoilers(I don’t know how to make a spoiler code)

I only really read the first book and just started watching the show but either I zoned out from the book sometimes when I was reading it or the book changed/added in things that weren’t in the book. Maybe the book was intended for an audience a little bit younger than me, (spoilers possibly ahead) but I don’t remember Conrad having the job with the boat guy, I thought Taylor only came to Cousins once in the book, I don’t remember Jeremiah being bi (which wasn’t bad but I didn’t remember it), I don’t remember the ball storyline/ Steven staying the whole summer since in the book he had left early to look at colleges.

So far it’s just been interesting seeing this first season after reading the first book.

I agree, the show was much better. I still wound up reading all of the books anyway but they were not that enjoyable.

This a scene with Benito in Paris, in one of the last couple of episodes.

I’m guessing this scene will be in episode 9 or 10.

Belly will write Conrad back at the end of 10 and the finale will be dedicated to their reunion.

I hope it is 9 or 10 I don’t need episode 11 with them still trying to get back together

Personally I can get into a YA novel and I am in my late 20s, but could not stand these. Belly was infuriating. I also didnt feel chemistry with her and either of the romantic interests. Not enough substance for me. Still read them all though lol

Personally I LOVED To All The Boys but I hated The Summer I Turned Pretty.

It's still worth the read though because it has some good themes. I just absolutely hated Belly.

This is one of the only times I liked the show better.

I didn't like it but you should read it for the experience.

I read them after watching the show, the first two were mediocre at best. I’d consider the last book a “jumping the shark” experience. Definitely avoid the last one if you care about either character growth or plot development. It’s a regression of both.

It’s not good

"Because I really did believe he was coming. If I didn’t, would I have taken extra care with my hair that morning? In the shower, would I have shaved my legs not once but twice, just to be safe? Would I have put on that new dress and worn those heels that made my feet hurt if I truly didn’t believe he was coming?"

"Then I saw him. Standing there in the back was Conrad, in a gray suit. I stared, and he lifted his hand in a wave. I lifted mine, but I didn’t move. Couldn’t move. Next to me, I heard Jeremiah clear his throat. I started. I’d forgotten he was standing next to me. For those couple of seconds, I forgot everything."

Bonrad season through and through

Exactly, when Belly is with Conrad, she does not think about Jere romantically. When Belly is with Jere, she absolutely thinks about Conrad romantically. I’m interested to see how much of her inner-thoughts/ VO we’ll get next season since they really toned it down at the end of season 2. 

Bonrad have such beautiful quotes jelly quotes have no substance really the quote where he was her first kiss can’t be in the show because cam was maybe that’s why they gave them that flashback because there’s not much else on the show to represent their childhood. I’m excited that we will see more bonrad the build up and the letters and them finally reuniting.

When was it ever Jeremiah’s season?! I will die on this hill, never has been him, never will be him!

I’ve always seen everyone describe it as a bonrad season