But fun fact, it’s pretty normal. The same thing has been experienced by laptops upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11 like fans running loudly, overheating, and optimization issues. so guys, based on the pattern from previous releases, we’ll still get security updates for Sequoia for at least 1–2 years, but without new features since Apple is focusing on adding those to Tahoe. I recommend giving them time to optimize it, because beta and official releases are totally different. Also, give other apps (especially third-party apps) time to catch up and stabilize. The Tahoe beta OS may look perfect, but it hasn’t been fully tuned for performance and efficiency yet. That’s why things feel different during the official release, when many apps still aren’t fully adapted to the new OS, so unless you just want a different design on your MacBook, what’s your big reason to update? iPhones, iPads, and MacBooks all go through this same cycle. So, sticking with sequoia makes more sense for now, because there isn’t really anything that exciting yet in Tahoe.

Again, it’s normal. I use both Windows (gaming laptop) and Apple devices (iPad, iPhone, MacBook). Even my Samsung before heated up a lot during the Android upgrade from 14 to 15.

I have the same issue, laptop is unusable, it feels like i am using Intel again... Also battery dies quick as well because of this high idle

Great, its not just me having this issue. My M4 is getting up to 210F with two monitors plugged in!

It’s just so annoying that a multi-billion-dollar corporation releases macOS every time in such a state that waiting six months for it to become somewhat stable has become a classic... In fact, I usually spend a maximum of six months on a new OS, shame! And they keep staying silent—Sequoia doesn’t drain the battery? Tahoe doesn’t overheat? Of course, it’s better for them to stay quiet!

Be very worried. Sequioa - efficiency cores get 25+- Celsius in a daily routine on my Air M1, Tahoe - 50+.. just for no reason. Instant downgrade.

What I don’t get from your description: Is it just getting hot, and you cry „overheating“ ? Or do you have any malfunction ?

The Apple Silicon chips are known to run pretty warm by design - by itself this is no flaw.

I've got an M3 MacBook Air (16GB RAM, 512K) and about 3 times a month for no reason it will get super hot. I don't know why. What do I do? Simply close it, let it sit for like 8 to 10 minutes, open it up, start using it again and it will go another 2 or 3 weeks without heating up.

I don't know why this happens. Also, my good old base M1 MacBook Air seems to get hot like 3 or 4 times a year. Same thing, I just let it rest for 8 to 10 minutes and same thing.

Of course, I'll admit that I easily have 5 or 6 programs all running at the same time.

Love the MacBook Air, incredible laptop. This is the era of the laptop. I don't think I'll ever need a desktop Mac ever again!

When your Mac heats up, check activity monitor’s CPU and Energy tabs to see if an app is causing the issue. Then google app name + “Mac heating issue” to see if it’s a common thing.

no, it did not 'start overheating'

people need to stop using this phrase

I assume you’ve restarted it. Check the Activity Monitor and see what’s running in the background. Also, running out of RAM might be a factor, especially if you only have 8 gb. Try shutting down all apps you don’t need open for your FaceTme call and see if it still overheats. 

Oh my God, you should be glad you didn’t have a Mac when intel was a thing.

In activity monitor, you can see whatever is using your battery and power.

Whar is the temperature during idle ?

Could check with this apps ?

https://mac-stats.com

Maybe overheating caused by malware. Scan with this apps.

https://www.malwarebytes.com

You mentioned you closed everything except for the apps you intent on using.

Force quit everything. This will free up resources.

Then restart the Mac and then re-launch the apps you want to use. You can also use activity monitor the exact moment it starts getting warm to see what’s taking up CPU and RAM and that’s how you’d know what’s causing it to warm up.

An SMC reset is a thing to try.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295

Is there any video running, maybe in the background or at the top of a web page? I find video's really ramp up my fans (youtube in particular).

Your temps are indeed good, so the fan is working. Idle at 86% is high. The Mac will use Kernel_Task to try and consume CPU power, to avoid another app racing out of control. Is this the task consuming power when you say your Mac is idle?

https://www.howtogeek.com/310293/WHAT-IS-KERNEL_TASK-AND-WHY-IS-IT-RUNNING-ON-MY-MAC/

Never happen to me before with my previous MBP 2017, maybe you can try to downgrade to Mojave?

turn off turbo boost through a 3rd party app. Or use low power mode in the apple settings.

That's about all you can do. If you are somewhat tech competent, you can try a repaste.

Upgrade to Apple Silicon. I have a 2021 M1 Pro MacBook Pro and the fans don't even come on the vast majority of the time.

Same boat here, same machine and issues. I'm upgrading, but its hard with the M4 macbook pro's coming in the next few months.

Wait if you can, or buy refurbished M2 or M3 IMO

That sounds like what I’d expect from an i9. There’s no fixing it. They cool very poorly.

The only thing that made using it in hot ambient weather at all possible was flipping the fans to max with Macs fan control. Otherwise you end up in a never ending overheat-throttle cycle.

Don’t place your Mac on a soft surface.

Welcome to owning a MacBook. Decently spec'd machine, great look, absolutely awful thermals. Like others are saying make sure it's in a hard surface and it'll be a bit better, but it's always going to suck in this aspect unfortunately

There are several reasons a MacBook Pro (13-inch more so than the 16-inch). First of all the MacBook does not start throttling until it is really hot but it does not take much to get it there.

If you have a graphical application that keeps the screen at full brightness it will get hot quicker. If you use applications with a lot of wireless traffic it will get hot quicker. If you use it with a 2k, 4k or 5k external screen it will get hot quicker.

I have sold my 13-inch because however much I complained, and I own a computer repair business, Apple would not admit there is a flaw in their sensors. I am also selling Apple laptops and I have a lot of customers complaining about the new models.

In my eyes, the 13-inch MacBook Pro is garbage from this perspective. I cannot touch the palm rests because the laptop is so freaking hot and having thin, dry skin on my hands only intensifies that feeling of burning my hands.

The 15-inch was better and I really liked that laptop but sold it to a customer who left their gear on the other side of the ocean and not able to get it because of this pandemic.

The 16-inch is much better from a cooling perspective and the palm rests are great to work on and type for long periods of time.

Compared to my 15-inch workhorse from 2015 all of these newer models suck, I mean really suck. I can get over the fact that there are fewer ports and that the design is "more modern" but I cannot accept that these issues are whisked away with silly "solutions" like re-install, reboot, reset smc and nvram, we don't know and the never-failing: It must be an application you are using.

download macs fan control

Mac dan control.

And seriously don’t use it on soft surfaces. It’s killing. You can buy a mat or desk for in bed, they are really cheap and totally worth it.

On soft surfaces they can’t lose the heat, they overheat and this destroys the battery, and possibly more

Go to Launchpad -> Other -> Activity Monitor and then click on the 'CPU' tab. See what's using resources, if anything.

What do you mean by "so fast", and why do you believe it's a problem? Does the laptop shut down often from overheating? Are the fans working? Does the machine have reasonable air flow?

Are you putting it on a hard table or your bed? Make sure there’s airflow.

if you have an Apple Store near you, would take it in to see if there is a hardware issue

What year / model of MacBook Pro do you have? Let start there.

I have found my Macbook Pro M3 sometimes gets into an "overheated mode", No visible app running that should cause CPU to be that hot....doesn't seem to cool down and a restart resets the temp. Perhaps some background app has continued working ...not sure..hoping updates fix this.

Bad lid angle sensor for the lid closed issues.

The rest just sounds like Intel Mac issues.

So it sounds to me like your laptop is going to need a new battery replacement, the fans and / or logic board cleaned out and new thermal paste applied to the CPU/GPU. If you are familiar with working on electronics / computers, this won't take but a hour or so at most, otherwise you can pay someone else to do it for you.

But the reason you laptop is getting so hot so quickly, is because the thermal paste between the CPU and the heat pipe has deteriorated to the point to where it isn't effectively transferring heat from the CPU to the heat pipe anymore, and the CPU is heating up too fast inside the laptop. Once the temps get to a certain point, the laptop freaks out and triggers your fans to turn on at 100% rpm (jet engine).

Either that, or you can turn in the laptop you have now and pick yourself up a m-series laptop and enjoy life.