Belly's Decision and Its Implications
The ending of "The Summer I Turned Pretty" revolves around Belly's decision to reconcile with Conrad, which is portrayed as a significant and permanent choice. According to author Jenny Han, Belly's hesitation stems from the understanding that this reunion would be for keeps, potentially hurting Jeremiah and their families [1:1]. This decision marks a pivotal moment in Belly's journey, as she navigates her feelings and the consequences of her choices. The complexity of Belly's emotions is highlighted by her internal struggle and the external pressures she faces
[1:3].
Emotional Closure and Character Growth
Throughout the series, Belly experiences emotional growth and closure. Her breakdown after Conrad's beach confession signifies a deep sense of loss, not only of her relationships but also of her childhood and the summer memories tied to Cousins Beach [2:2]. This emotional turmoil reflects her mourning of an era and the realization that she must move forward without the familiar comforts of her past
[2:4]. The series emphasizes the importance of self-discovery and personal growth as Belly prepares to embark on a new chapter in her life.
Significance of Cousins Beach
Cousins Beach serves as a central symbol throughout the series, representing the bonds and memories formed there. Many fans believe that the story can only feel complete if it circles back to Cousins Beach, where everything began [4:1]. The beach house is more than just a setting; it is the heart of the story, encapsulating the characters' growth and the magic of their shared experiences
[4:2]. The ending suggests a return to this place, reinforcing the theme of coming full circle and finding closure.
Impact of Susannah's Passing
Susannah's passing plays a crucial role in shaping the narrative and the characters' dynamics. Her death accelerates the characters' transitions from adolescence to adulthood, forcing them to confront their grief and navigate complex relationships [5:1]. The love triangle between Belly, Conrad, and Jeremiah becomes more believable as they grapple with their emotions during this difficult time
[5:6]. Susannah's absence leaves a void that influences the characters' decisions and the trajectory of their lives.
Unresolved Questions and Future Possibilities
While some viewers felt the ending was rushed or lacked closure, others appreciated its open-ended nature, allowing for future exploration of the characters' lives [3:12]. The potential for a movie adaptation or additional content offers opportunities to delve deeper into the characters' journeys and provide further resolution
[3:9]. Fans hope to see the characters return to Cousins Beach, capturing the essence of their shared history and the promise of new beginnings.
According to author Jenny Han, Belly's hesitation before reconciling with Conrad in The Summer I Turned Pretty finale was due to her knowing that a reunion with Conrad would be permanent and could hurt Jeremiah and their family. Han stated that Belly's caution was because with Conrad, "if they go there again, it's for keeps, and you can't take that back, so you really have to be sure".
I’m honestly not sure what to make of this article. What is JH really trying to say here? That once Belly made her choice—after all of 30 seconds—she’s locked in, no turning back? That she can’t change her mind simply because it’s Conrad? That kind of pressure doesn’t just weigh on Belly, it weighs on the relationship itself. It sets them up for conflict before they’ve even had a chance to grow. And it raises a bigger question: if things fall short, if the reality doesn’t match the dream, is she supposed to just endure it because of everything that’s already happened? Also, this isn’t a great message to be putting out.
>wasn't this also the case at the end of Season 2? Jere knew he wouldn't be able to handle the pain if Belly left him for Conrad again and begged her to be sure<
Problem with this is, belly is only 16/17 it's old at this time. Her and Conrad broke up a month ago and she's starting things with Jeremiah too quickly. She's looking for the next quick fix, someone to make her feel wanted. She tried mapping out her and Jeremiah future when they toured Finch: "You and me running around campus together, late night study sessions and pizza".......she's too young to know how her heart is gonna feel when she gets older. An she's always been in denial about her feelings for Conrad. They never had a proper conversation about their feelings. The conversation at the hotel was one side. Conrad spoke the night before and told her not to say anything. The next morning she goes to look for Jeremiah. Even though it's obvious she made up her mind already, they never actually spoke to each other. And Conrad takes back everything he said the next morning. So nothing was really resolved.
That's what Jenny seems to want us to think retroactively and might be true in the books, but that's not what they showed on screen. I think the conversation Belly and Conrad had next to the garbage cans was the closure conversation, and Belly pretty clearly friendzoned Conrad. It was much more closure than Belly and Jere have had at this point after a much more significant relationship; they have never even talked face to face since their wedding day. And she was absolutely clear on Conrad's feelings for her when she chose Jere on the show. Jere says, "He's still in love with you, you have to see that." And the next day. Belly tells Jere he was right about that. She had all the information, she just still chose Jere. Conrad taking it back only confirmed she had made the right choice; it didn't actually affect anything. The way Lola played it, she didn't seem to believe him when he took it back, she was just over his antics.
And while 17 is young, so is 22, so the same argument about not knowing how she will feel still applies. I think one of my main points of contention with the show overall is the idea that you have to give in to whatever fleeting feelings you have, that you have no control over your heart, that signs from the universe mean more than your decisions. In my many years of experience with long-term relationships and marriage, I know that love is not only a feeling but a choice. You have to commit to your partner regardless of whatever nostalgia for past loves or momentary attractions might arise. Those feelings are common if not universal, but you can't dwell on them because they aren't real; the life you build with your partner, the kind of love you have with someone you spend every day with and navigate life with, has to carry more weight. I do think no matter what confusion Belly feels about Conrad, she took it too far with Jere for what she is doing now to ever be right.
I think it’s meant as this is the do or die because of the mess. But you’re right, it comes across the way you’ve described because Jenny’s ultimately backed herself into a corner. If Belly makes this choice, there’s no going back to Jeremiah (who’s already fully removed himself from the equation btw), their families will not recover from another change of mind, and this is the last chance for her and Conrad. She’s already flip flopped enough between the brothers and this is the absolute last time. The thing is they don’t know each other any more. And the relationship was a disaster for many reasons, only some of which aren’t there anymore. But she has to make this decision with forever in mind because the alternative is more of the catastrophe they and their families are still recovering from. Even if the alternative is the right thing to do eventually. It’s a huge pressure to put on a young woman who historically hasn’t managed that kind of isolating pressure well. And it’s been less than a year. To be honest making the Jelly relationship 4 years is the most significant damaging factor in all of this. It could have stayed at 2, there still would have been fallout, she’s not as far away from knowing Conrad, they could have done long distance for a bit, added in a longer time jump which they’re happy to use to explain away everything, and the endgame could have been the same without both Belly and Conrad looking like absolute villains (because they are).
Who keeps asking her questiooooonssssssss!!! The less we hear from this woman the better because it's clear she doesn't understand the material and gets confused at each interview.
And they insult us when we say the messaging at the end — that loving Conrad was fundamental to her person like the genetic composition of her hair and eyes — was harmful. It implied that every choice she's made away from Conrad and to leave him behind — including breaking up with him when he treated her badly, or not choosing him because he'd established a pattern of confessing and taking things back — was denying her true nature. Like, this girl will never be at one with herself away from Conrad, so it's better for her to endure whatever comes her way at his hands because she's realized she's not a separate person and cannot be a full human being away from him. Somehow, that's not codependency, but self-awareness and actualization for her.
What the actual fuck.
Oh, that's inspiring! Belly's love for Conrad actually symbolizes a trait that she doesn't like about herself but that she has to accept to be able to love herself. Or it's a Greek tragedy after all, Susannah is the Delphi oracle and Belly's been uselessly running from her prophesized fate since S1. (Disclaimer: just kidding, not delusional.)
>Belly's love for Conrad actually symbolizes a trait that she doesn't like about herself but that she has to accept to be able to love herself.
This is what puzzled me when she made that statement about her hair and eyes, and then Jenny made it obvious that that's exactly what she meant by saying loving Conrad is who Belly is at her core. Belly's inner monologue about how her younger self was comfortable with this truth and she'd spent so long disgusted by this idea and even came to Paris to run away from it only to realize it was okay and actually nothing to be ashamed or sorry for left me aghast tbh with you.
Jenny doubling down got me clutching my pearls. Why would any woman say that about another woman and act like it's a positive thing????
I’m pretty done with JH, the finale, and her interviews. I think she’s contradicted herself too often this season, let alone between and during previous seasons to be taken seriously or at her word again. What she wants to sound profound comes across as word salad. Partly because she’s needed to speak far too often to try and explain or correct ‘misinterpretation’ when the show’s writing, direction or music choices haven’t told the story as they should have and was intended. I’ve never encountered a show/movie needing so much external material in order to supposedly understand it properly - if you need a manual or handholding there’s been a significant failure along the way. Anyway, she probably means the decision holds significant weight. It will rupture relationships again that have only just been bandaided back together without full closure/reflection/accountability or discussion. Nobody is fully healed, and they need to be serious and prepared for the discomfort and fallout as everyone comes to terms with it. This sounds mature. The problem is that what she’s saying to Conrad, how she’s behaving, what she’s thinking instead, and the ‘signs from the universe/childhood’ she’s using to rationalise her choices are all extremely contradictory and juvenile. The only thing I can take out of the finale for Belly is that she hasn’t grown or changed in any meaningful way she’s simply run away from her mess and problems, that she continues to be afraid to break away from the past, and that absolutely nothing she thinks, says or does can be trusted. For now, for the medium term and certainly not forever. This is terrible writing of the main female character in 2025 around whom the story is supposed to revolve. And I don’t care about her or Conrad as a result anymore. They can and will do whatever they like, I’m completely uninterested in their story. I enjoyed the development of the new core four characters and stories and will watch the movie for them only.
And any decision or message that indicates that a 22 year old whose core personality trait is indecision (and who managed to only be single for about 6 months in the last 6 years since she was 16) can’t or won’t change her mind in future is utterly preposterous.
>What she wants to sound profound comes across as word salad
This!! And also ends up becoming more and more misogynistic.
>the decision holds significant weight. It will rupture relationships again that have only just been bandaided back together without full closure/reflection/accountability or discussion
That's true. But it's the "for keeps" that's raising my eyebrow. So much external doubt and resistance to this reawakened dynamic is going to put pressure on it. It's going to make them stick together even when they shouldn't just to validate their choices. Just like how Belly and Jeremiah cling closer together when their family was against them. And w know how that ended. But do Belly and Conrad have the awareness and courage to walk away when things get rough? To hear Belly say it, walking away would be rejecting a part of her genetic makeup, so she won't.
>This is terrible writing of the main female character in 2025 around whom the story is supposed to revolve.
!!!!! Jenny Han said FUCK BELLY
And ruining those relationships is I guess worth it! That’s why it’s only them at the cousins house in the end.
When she said she wouldn’t change her mind that was before Jeremiah cheated on her and started working for his dad, ignoring everything she wanted to do for their wedding etc. He wasn’t a great partner once they went there and people have to be able to change their minds when their relationships become toxic.
Apparently every time she picked someone else, Belly was self-hating and denying the person that was cast in stone when she was born with the loving Conrad gene.
Mind you, previous seasons showed Belly started liking Conrad when she was in the double digits in age. Season 3 suddenly told us she'd liked and been in love with him from as far back as when she was 4.
The writing doesnt support that Belly actually likes Conrad and would want to be with him everyday which is the funniest thing... She had like 2 months alone with Con at the summerhouse and was not able to meaningfully connect with him. They showed her making fun of him with Jere, getting sick of his bland chicken dinners, yelling at him, rejecting him. What about this screams forever? She was able to love Jere and be touchy in front of Con without a care (but in S2 she wasnt able to do that when with Con in front of Jere).
Belly and Conrad mirror Laurel and John. No way are they lasting, their relationship is doomed for divorce.
The way she broke down after Conrad’s beach confession felt like she was shattering into pieces. But when Jeremiah called off the wedding, her reaction wasn’t nearly as intense, at least not compared to how she cried on the beach. And even in the car scene, I don’t think her tears were really about the wedding being called off. That may have been a part of it, but it wasn’t the main reason.
She was crying because she felt like she had lost her best friend, as she always claimed Jeremiah was, and at the same time she lost the love of her life, Conrad. Conrad’s goodbye felt final to her, even though we know it wasn’t. From her perspective, it was the end. And the truth is, the boys have always been her entire world. Belly has never really had a strong sense of self or identity outside of them. That’s why she was crying, because in that moment, she felt like she had lost everything, not just Jeremiah or the wedding.
Yes and leaving her childhood and adolescence behind, to become her own. “Knowing” it’s the end of an era - no more Cousins and no more summers with Fisher-Conklin-Park. She don’t know she’ll come back there ever again. Her whole life was about the summer months there in Cousins with their moms and the boys.
Gaaaah!!! I’m so excited for her future. PARIS, HERE WE COME!!!!!
Yes! This is it exactly to me. She’s mourning an era more than she’s mourning either of the boys. She thought the summer house and Fishers would be deeply intertwined in her life forever and to “know” that’s over and that she played a huge part in that demise is devastating to her. Even more than just Conrad or Jeremiah, Cousins and the memories she has there are her “happy place” and she doesn’t get to go where she’s happiest anymore.
Not to mention when she goes to the beach house to pack, you can see it on her face that she thinks it may be the last time she is there. We all know it isn't, but I could see why she would think that she just said goodbye to jere, con, and Cousins.
Yes definitely crying a bit over that house / chapter of her life / all of the memories / and also I would argue Susannah and some repressed grief - because that house = Susannah for her
Right, especially when she slowly placed the beach house key on the counter
And I think putting it like this puts into perspective some of why she kept fighting so hard for a not-great relationship.
She really needs to find herself in Paris without Jere or Conrad
Someone mentioned a Benito. But uh, I dunno - it’s like the quote by T.S Eliot we shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time. Like she will go to Paris, and then come back to cousins with a whole new perspective
Benito is a guy she has a fling with in the book. In the book, she goes to Spain and in one of Conrad's letters, he says he heard about her seeing Benito from her mom.
I think the thought that she will never get to go back to the house in Cousins is what was her ultimate breakdown.
The summer I split up a family to own property 💀
Susannah told her “if anyone can keep the magic here alive, it’s you” and instead she’s torn apart the entire summer family
I'm so sick of people saying that "the ending felt flat and rushed". This is EXACTLY what Jenny Han envisioned. She wanted to show the viewers that Belly has changed after her time in Paris. That the only thing that remains the same about her is that she loves Conrad. She's not the same girl that said yes to marrying Jere on a whim. She's not the girl that feels like she needs to rush into things. But most importantly she's not the girl that subconsciously listens to Susanna and hesitates before she acts. If anything, I think the wedding would have been a bit predictable and unnecessary. Them going back to the beach house is kind of a circular ending in a way, because it shows that everything comes back to Cousins, from the beginning to the end (similar to how in Belly's world everything comes back to Conrad).
Oh I wanted to see the beach scene after the wedding!! Sorry to be that person but the book had it and I wanted to see it.
That being said I was not upset at all with the ending. I loved it. Belly’s confession was enough for me to believe they will eventually get married.
Same! Happy with the ending (had low hopes) but now I know we’re getting a movie I really want the beach scene and the letters
Same. I really wanted that and the letters. I was also really expecting the valentine’s scene but mostly I just felt like we never heard some of the iconic book quotes and it bummed me out.
Unpopular opinion, I didn't want to see an actual wedding. Like I would have been okay with a scene from the very end of the book epilogue when all was said and done. But with almost the entire season being about the prep for the jelly wedding, I was super wedding-ed out.
Also, I refuse to believe that an ending is only satisfying or complete if the leads get married… why?? Belly and Conrad don't need to get married right away to prove anything to each other.
I am assuming it will be part of the movie somehow, which is cool. I'm sure we'll have another time jump of some kind and it will make more sense at that point I think.
Yes, I also think the book set it up nicely. Like we basically saw belly and Conrad prep for a wedding almost entirely themselves anyways
Agreed. I think the ending the way it is ends on a nice upwards manner. A wedding would have been too convenient of an ending and honestly, the tension and curiosity would be gone
I think the movie will feature a significant time jump to make Belly's second wedding make sense and also to accommodate for the fact this movie may be coming out two+ years from now (cries)
I think we already got that. Jenny Han mentioned 2 major time jumps in S3, we only got to see one in the beginning. The second one I believe is the last scene. Belly says that she eventually returned after a long, long time. So we actually don't know how much time has passed between Paris and Cousins in the finale and I think it actually is a significant time jump and that will be revealed in the film.
I figure she just stayed that year in Paris. Two years is a long time, and unless Conrad moved to Paris I think they probably would have broken up again. We see Christmas in Paris pictures. I assumed she came back the following summer. I suppose they could have lived in San Francisco for a long time before going back to Cousins. Possibly until Conrad finished medical school?
In the books she is 23 when she marries Conrad. We will see if Jenny Han sticks to that
While I disagree and I believe that the ending of this show was very rushed - the pacing was all off, I'm very disappointed in the number of people who want to see, not only a wedding but babies! I'd be thrilled just to have them living their best lives together, living together, traveling, etc.
Well, I hope the ending of the movie will include seeing what their life is like in the future. Possibly years later with kids that are maybe a little older around the age of that picture from the end. Taking the kids to Cousins and everyone having fun.
Since a lot of us have been talking about how we’d like this story to end, I wanted to bring up a scene at the end of Season 1 that meant a lot to me.
After the debutante ball, everyone gathered around the table at the summer house, finishing off the leftover food before packing up to leave. Belly says:
“There were times this summer when I felt like I didn’t know my own heart. But one thing I do know for sure is that no matter what happens next, I will always come back to this place and these people.”
I keep thinking about that moment. So much has happened since then. They’ve lost Susannah, the brothers' relationship has been broken (and working toward improvement), Belly’s relationships with both boys have gone through extreme ups and downs, and even Steven and Conrad’s bond has been tested. Everyone has grown, changed, and been scattered in different directions.
With only one episode left, I don’t know how much time we’ll really have to wrap everything up. But I hope we get a parallel to that Season 1 scene. Everyone back around that table, even if brief, finding a moment of peace and reconciliation. This show has made so many of us fall in love with dynamics far beyond just the main love triangle: the chosen family Susannah and Laurel created, the magic of Cousins, the friendships and bonds that keep pulling everyone back.
If it really is “Belly’s story,” then it’s not only about who she ends up with. It’s also about her finding her way back to this place and these people. Seeing her come home to Cousins, surrounded by the family that has been built, would feel like the perfect full-circle moment and such a fitting tribute to Susannah.
I second the opinion completely the series can only feel truly complete if it circles back to Cousins and the beach house, because that’s where everything began. Cousins isn’t just a backdrop; it’s the heart of the story, the place where Belly, Conrad, Jeremiah, and Steven grew into themselves and where the bonds that define them were forged.
Every summer there, something shifted first loves bloomed, friendships deepened, and heartbreaks carved their marks. For Belly especially, Cousins has always been her compass. She says in the series, “Everything good, everything magical happens between the months of June and August. Winters are simply a time to count the weeks until the next summer.” And again, “For me, it was always Conrad. No matter what, it was always Conrad.” But that “always” is tied to Cousins it’s the house, the beach, the summers that made her realize it.
Also, Susannah is the soul of Cousins. Without her, there wouldn’t have been those summers that shaped Belly, Conrad, and Jeremiah. The house was Susannah’s dream, her sanctuary, and the place she poured her love into, not just for her boys but for Belly too. Belly even says in the series, “Cousins was the only place I ever truly belonged.” That belonging comes from Susannah her warmth, her belief that summers should be magical, her way of making everyone feel at home.
If the show wants to close the loop the right way, it has to bring them back there. The beach house isn’t just a setting, it’s where Belly discovered who she is and who she loves. Ending anywhere else would feel unfinished, because the story started with Cousins being more than just a vacation spot it was home, a memory box, a turning point for each of them.
Agreed! And there’s the references to Cousins/the beach house being magic/magical - so as they all grow and mature, they will come back together there. I think that would be a good ending and gives weight to all of their stories being important.
Agree, she has to come back to cousins by the end of the last episode
She has too!!!!
Most likely final scene imo. That or the belly flop. Said on another thread Jere's conversation with Laurel about not being able to go back in the house felt like an obvious set up for us to see him cooking everyone (Christmas?) dinner in the finale
Oh yeah Jeremiah cooking and it won't be too awkward because Denise is in the picture and they are happy. Maybe also a pregnancy announcement at Christmas from Denise or Taylor.
Wow how did you know that Jere would be cooking at Cousins, that was what half of the episode was about .
Tbh I was thinking he'd just be cooking Christmas dinner for them all or something, not so much as a business thing lol
Beautiful hope! A heartfelt, full-circle ending with everyone together would be perfect.
yes i need this so bad. i need a photo of all of them on the pier and everyone happy 😩
If they take a photo on the pier and then flashback to earlier photos on the pier I will weep
same, we deserve that 😭
Did she need to? What did it add to the story? (Besides the “dying wish”). Did the characters convey this storyline enough?
@JennyHan What would you have written if she lived? Can we call it “The Summer I Turned Really Pretty?”
I’m living in a space where I think an equally beautiful story could have been told if she lived. Like most, I think the part was played beautifully. I think she was my favorite character of them all. What if?
I think, Conrad and Belly would have lasted longer than they did. Would have likely Still broken up, but would have found their way back to each other.
Jeremiah would have been encouraged by Susannah, to go to a college that isn't so close to home. He would have moved on from his crush on Belly, once at college.
Jeremiah would have moved on from his crush like immedately. The reasons why he is stuck on her in the show's canon is: 1. he won her over Conrad (never would have happened since the firework wouldn't stop them if Conrad wasn't depressed) and 2. she is replacement Susannah (which he wouldn't need if Susannah was alive).
As for Bonrad, I do think there's a chance they would have still broken up because Belly idolized Conrad and needed to step away from that, but it is also possible that without Conrad's grief, they could have worked through that once I love yous were out.
That, and Conrad would need to work on his communication skills.
Belly and Jeremiah never would have happened. The only reason Conrad and Belly broke up is because he was having a hard time dealing with his mother getting increasingly sick and about to pass away. If Susannah had never passed or even got sick, the prom scene never would've happened. The distance growing between them never happened. Conrad isolating himself wouldn't have happened. None of the central plots in the show would've happened. Belly and Conrad would've stayed together for a long time. Really, Jelly only happened because Susannah passed.
there would be no jelly because once bonrad were together there would be no bad prom scene hence no breakup and basically no storyline for conrad
It really depends on where the split is.
Does the cancer never come back? Or does it come back and the treatment works?
If the cancer doesn't come back then there's no Bonrad because Jeremiah isn't crying by the pool during the deb ball so Conrad doesn't come sweep her up.
UNLESS Conrad not being severely depressed over the cancer all summer lets Bonrad get together earlier and she never asks Jeremiah to escort her
UNLESS Conrad never breaks up with Aubrey in the first place OR he gets with Denise Nicole in a more serious way he before Belly gets there for the summer because he's not a mess about the cancer and now we're back to Jelly.
If season one plays out the same though and she recovers then yeah you were right in the first place.
EDIT: The original version of this said "Denise" when I meant "Nicole."
These are great points! The other thing that comes to mind is if Susannah's cancer didn't come back, which means Conrad never finds out. Wouldn't Conrad have ended up going to that football summer camp that was scheduled during the summer of S1? If that happened, Bonrad definitely doesn't get together, and Belly likely stays with Cam Cameron or Jeremiah (depending on if he confesses his feelings with no Conrad in the picture).
I think all the major events in the first season/book still happen even without Susannah’s cancer because Adam still would have cheated on her. He cheated when she had cancer so he would have cheated either way.
And so, Susannah doesn’t have cancer but Adam cheats and they start to divorce. Susannah doesn’t want to tell the boys until after summer but Conrad overhears, quits football, breaks up with Aubrey, is moody and depressed (to a lesser extent but still enough that he questions if he’s stable enough for a relationship).
Maybe we would not have the Deb ball storyline, because it’s highly motivated by Susannah’s end of life, but we didn’t have it in the books and Bonrad still ended up together by the end of book 1.
Book 2 is where maybe there’s not enough conflict for Conrad to cause the prom break up. I can’t see him being too torn up about the divorce at that point. But Jeremiah is definitely still icing belly out and is still mad she isn’t “there for him” through his parent’s divorce. IMO Bonrad stays together at this point, there’s no Jelly storyline and Bonrad lives happily ever after haha
Why would Conrad get with Denise? And I think Bonrad would have gotten together sooner or later, they clearly had sparks from the summer before she turned pretty.
Disagree on the Bonrad never happening because that would mean they've never ever had a thing for each other. All those flashbacks to the small things he did for her when they were kids would mean nothing. Their feelings would've eventually bubbled to the surface. Susannah's illness just sped things up.
I think that summer sped up all of their childhoods. I realize they were 15-18, but I think they might've spent one more summer happy in their summer family bubble. Conrad set the tone with his depression, so even if the others didn't know, they reacted to the change in him and the moms without knowing. Maybe they would've dated but less seriously. Maybe Belly would've still been a deb (though Laurel didn't seem happy about it and might've pushed back). I think Belly and Conrad would've spent more time trying to figure each other out. Maybe once she was in college and skipped a summer, because the house is important but less so if everyone lives, and maybe Conrad starts reaching out and something grows. I think they'd go a lot slower and maybe keep it secret for longer.
Her passing made the love triangle and miscommunications believable because they were grieving teenagers.
I watched The summer I turned pretty without any prior knowledge of how popular the show is (I was probably living under a rock). Firstly, I am an adult in my 30's and I am amazed at the impact this 'coming-of-age' story has had on me. I am eagerly counting the days until season 3 is released. I find myself deeply invested in the show, reading people's opinions on Conrad, Belly and Jeremiah, and doing my own character analysis.
Among many other points, I couldn't help but draw this parallel in a similar situation that Conrad and Jeremiah were individually involved in.
During the deb ball, Jeremiah first found out about Susannah's cancer and he was so devastated that he not remember that he had a dance performance with Belly. Belly was extremely nervous, comparing it to the dream of being naked in a room full of people. If Conrad hadn't stepped in, Belly definitely wouldn't have had a great memory of the deb ball.
Prom night : Conrad, the way he processes grief and anxiety, couldn't pretend to be happy and be there for Belly during one of the best events of her school life. Given the panic attack episodes Conrad occasionally had, it is most likely that he was on the brink of having one and so stormed out of the room to avoid making a scene. Belly was quick to react and she was the one that broke things off (not Conrad). Conrad leaving could have been equally embarrassing for her in the prom.
At the time of the each of these individual events, Jere/Belly and Conrad/Belly were definitely in a relationship (for Jere/Belly it was just the beginning).
I don't understand how these two are different and why Belly only chooses to blame Conrad for the prom night.
We should keep in mind that Belly is a teenager, and like most teenagers, she’s very self-centered. She even feels embarrassed multiple times throughout the show when she realizes she makes everything about herself. The show is a coming-of-age story, and her selfishness is part of that journey.
At the Deb Ball, Belly doesn’t blame Jeremiah for leaving because Conrad stepped in, and she had her “Cinderella” moment with him. Why would she blame Jeremiah when everything worked out in her favor?
At prom, she was hurt that Conrad was pulling away. She believed it wasn’t just because he was struggling, but also because he had lost interest in her. We can deduce this from her behavior during prom. Conrad told her multiple times that he wanted to go somewhere else to talk, but she’s afraid to leave the dance floor. She likely thought he wanted to find a quiet place to break up with her. Her way of trying to prevent that was by sticking to the original plan for the night.
When he left anyway, that’s when she realized she couldn’t hold on to him, he was leaving her behind. He was breaking up with her by putting distance between them. So in her pov she said out loud what he wouldn’t.
Why does Conrad dance with her instead of looking for his brother 😂🤣 so many things wrong with the script lol 🥴🤷🏻♀️☺️
Hahaha, I get what you mean, but that part felt realistic to me. Jere was only missing for a couple of minutes, that’s not really long enough for people to get up and start looking for someone. Even though Conrad has been parentified to look out for the others, Jere is a teenager over six feet tall, not a 4-foot-tall 10-year-old. People usually don’t worry as much about a tall teenager going missing at a country club as they would about a small child.
Conrad probably felt the need to help Belly right away because she was struggling right in front of him. He had no idea that Jere was bawling his eyes out.😢 If Jere hadn’t come back during the dance, I’m sure Conrad would have gone looking for him.
People might kill me for this but I think Conrad would have picked helping Jere over Belly if he knew Jere was crying.😭
Omg rightttf
Well they aren’t exactly the same. Conrad and Belly were in an actual relationship, boyfriend/girlfriend. Meanwhile she just asks Jere to go with her to Deb ball because she was mad at Conrad and Jere had just confessed to liking her. They weren’t in a relationship.
And to be completely honest, Belly isn’t mad at Jere about the Deb Ball dance because she ultimately got to dance with Conrad which is what she wanted at that time anyways.
Prom however, at this point Belly is seeing Conrad’s grief and him pulling away as a direct reflection of how he feels about her. He doesn’t want to let her in, doesn’t care about their relationship as much. Which is wrong of her but she has too many insecurities to understand the situation for what it was. I wouldn’t say she blames him or gets mad at him, they just break up and she’s devastated/hurt by him.
And also, when Susannah’s cancer came back, remember belly said no one told her how bad it was. For all we know, Conrad could’ve known how bad it was and belly didn’t realize
Conrad told her before prom when they were in the kitchen that his mom's meds were not working and he clearly looked very worried and scared- that should have clued in Belly that something was very wrong. Even at prom, she still knew that Susannah was sick and dying, so her first though when Conrad wanted to go outside and was looking visibly drained and near tears, was maybe it had do with his mom, not that he wanted to break up.
I think, belly thinks about her relationship with Conrad as a dream even if it came true she is in a feeling that Conrad is not letting her in as much as she wanted. so because of her insecurities she thought he wanted to breakup with her which she didn't realise even after the beach fight because of her constant feeling that Conrad won't love her. Which we all know is not true but apparently she and all people around her think the same. As for the Deb ball she actually thanks jere because she got what she wanted from a long time. And she never takes anything serious about Jeremiah as she doesn't expect much from him both past and present . Even if he did anything wrong he always makes sure that she got what she wants which is assurance that she is loved by him. Conrad is very bad at that assurance thing.
Your post made me think of another similar parallel: Conrad being sad at Prom Belly being sad at Steven's Grad party
Circumstances and situations are different but the core issue is the same: they're both really sad/grieving, having to go to social event they have no desire to be at in order to support someone they care about. Then feeling overwhelmed and having to leave?
Belly essentially went through the exact same thing as Conrad so it's crazy she couldn't give him some grace. Granted, Conrad wasn't able to communicate to Belly why he was feeling this way so that's also partly on him too.
To me, it feels like belly judges Conrad to a higher standard than anyone else around her maybe not her mom because she also judges her mom pretty harshly. And I think it correlates directly to how much she feels for Conrad and her mom.
I have never watched this show purely because the title gives me the ick.
It's really bad, most of the scenes just feel like you got a bunch of TikTok stars and put them in a room. I love trashy teen shows but this was personally one of the worst teen shows I've seen in recent memory.
I binged the whole thing and it's okay. I call it "Gen Z's Dawson's Creek" (also learned they filmed in Wilmington as well)
This made me gasp. Because the scene where dawson's dad...., actually sent me into orbit. I was decades late watching it in uni but istg i never looked back jdkdkdodododdoo some how this is cracking me up.
I also didn't watch Dawson's Creek so I'm pretty sure it's not my thing 😂
it isn't worth it, trust me
jenny han singlehandedly keeping wasian actors booked and busy
Well one Wasian, maybe two as a treat. JK I hope they end up in the Bay Area and Belly makes some Asian friends
greenlit a feature film**
my bad, this is what happens when you walk and type
Team Conrad and his slutty little watch for life
if belly had gone to my school me and my friends would gossip about her every time we met up
Me and my friends are gossiping about her as if she was real. Lol
You know they’re going to go in a trip again in a couple of years and that entire cycle is going to repeat itself
Probably. Maybe. I do think it's telling that what got them to truly make up and being emotionally intimate again was when Laurie finally let loose some vulnerable feelings she's been bottling up.
For one brief moment, they had a moment of true honesty. I think if they got to have that moment, it's possible for them to have it again.
They'll be in menopause and hot flashing all over the place. "Jaclyn, you look great! Hormones? Eye lift?" "Oh, you know, just the basics." "Me too - the basics." Then they'll whisper about Laurie's weight gain and brain fog.
I felt the episode too quickly tied their conflicts, as a group, up in a pretty bow
I think the point was to show how honesty, grace and sincerity can lead to good outcomes. Everyone else have in to their dark sides (greed, rage, ambition) but the show wanted to make the point that it didn’t have to be that way.
Love it. It's so authentic and raw.
Guys… I can’t be the only one who’s way too invested in this, right? Tomorrow is the finale and I’m honestly losing it. Like, I know it’s just a show, but at this point, I’ve forgotten it’s a TV show. I’ve been thinking non-stop about what’s going to happen and I’m completely emotionally invested in these characters.
Will Belly end up with Conrad? Will she choose herself for once? Are we going to get all the answers in an hour-long episode? Is there a wedding in the cards? And most importantly… Is the ending going to be different from the books? I need to know!!
I swear, I haven’t been this obsessed with a show since Lucifer. I was so invested in that one, and now, here I am, getting attached to yet another group of characters I’ll probably miss for the rest of my life. I can already feel the Wednesday night withdrawals coming, and I haven’t even seen the finale yet. I’m seriously going to miss looking forward to Wednesdays.
Anyone else here having a full-on meltdown about this? Or is it just me?
OMG, I screamed while reading your post. I imagined many obsessed like me, us with this show. but honestly I never thought I would find someone say the exact same thing like me, I have never been so invested in any other show after LUCIFER. I was so obsessed with that show also that last episode wait killed me. But I was very satisfied how that ended. After Lucifer I watched many but none enchanted me like this one. I am going to miss so many things, the wait for wednesday, my life stuck because I can not function until its finished, finding this community where I can talk to like minded people and not be judged that its just a show, how can someone be so obsessed.
I am going to miss my favorite characters from this show and I know if it gives me satisfying ending like Lucifer, I shall keep on repeat watch for a few times. But only scenes where Conrad is present with or without Belly. I wish these community lives a little longer than the show, because I would love to come back and chat with all of you. I am so ready to FINALE and so not ready at the same time
I used to post non-stop on Instagram when they cancelled Lucifer. I was one of those people who started a petition to bring lucifer back so yes, I was SUPER invested. TSITP is the same, I read the books a decade ago, I cried while reading the last one and now that the show is ending I still feel the pang. I seemed to have lost the ability to be rational at this point 😭😭🥲
Also, you can always talk to me if you need to discuss TSITP ♥️
I’m very much obsessed with this show - this season being the one I’ve been the most invested in. I’ve been rewatching all of this season’s episodes randomly the past few weeks and rewatched the first two seasons last month ✨
Are you crying like me too?? 😭😭
Not yet but it’s gonna hit me once the ep is out and I actually have to accept that the show is over 🥺
My instagram is literally filled with tsitp specially conrad reels ! My mind and i am 24*7 on reddit checking every post! I m also super invested! I m not ready to let go conrad and this community ! Feel like i have found my kinda people who thinks like i am! We protect love conrad like our own child ! Got a crush on chris while watching the show mind u i m 31 not ur regular teenager so yeah guilty as charged! I want conrad in my life!
This is our summer roman empire. some of us hated it and some loved it. I know I went in with a hopeful heart and have come out of it disappointed and angered by S3. At the end of the day, I hope it gives either a comforting ending to most or any kind of passionate reaction (good or bad). For me once it’s over I know I’ll be happy. This is how I felt about GOT (i was not online for that experience).
😭😭😭😭 I feel like a friend is moving to another country and I'll be left alone in an era without mobile phones and there will be no social media, no facetime.. nothing...
I feel that. The other day I met someone who is in the med program at Stanford and my first thought was “oh do you know this guy Conrad in the program?” As if he’s an actual real life person and close friend lol I need to touch grass 😫
We're beyond help, my friend 😭😭
So beyond 😭
I thought this quote from the interview was really validating as a fan:
TV: If it had somehow fallen through, do you think you would've been satisfied with the way season three ended as an ending for the series as a whole?
JH: If it had fallen through, then I would've had to add on to [season 3]. But I think that the season is about Belly and Conrad coming back together and what needed to happen in order for their reunion to happen. So I know that people were like, "Oh, we barely got any time with the two of them happy, and we wanted episodes of them as a couple." But the journey really was about the reunion, so I didn't want to do a five-minute montage at the end of the season. I thought the movie felt more fitting.
I would just like to raise my hand and say I would be MUCH more vicious about a boy bouncing between two sisters. While she’s not wrong about like, society writ large having double standards for women, Belly is a wild example to rely on here and i think infantilizing women who make hurtful choices is not really great for their redemption arc.
Ladies ofc jump down my throat if I speak out of turn here.
I said this to my wife while we were watching the show almost verbatim. I love this show and I love a rom com drama I’m a softie but I think what took me out the most is just how (ironic I know) unrealistic a lot of it felt sometimes when it came to the back and forth between the three of them (and I honestly lost it at going BACK to Conrad after FOUR YEARS with his brother)
It felt sometimes like they forgot to make Belly kinda understand her actions bc so many times she just came off as so selfish and immature and I just kept wondering why it felt so diffrent when if it was a dude he would rightfully be dragged by the community lol
i don't know why these guys are hell-bent on making Belly seem like the nice girl here..
Either you should have written her with a lot more nuance.. but don't blame the audience for pointing out the obvious flaws in her.
What is writing a character with nuance if not writing them with flaws so that they can’t be simply summed up as a nice girl? How do you think they should have approached her character? I’m just confused by your points here.
Exactly she is the one that wrote Belly as a villain
If the genders were reversed the show would have been cancelled. There is no way people would support a man bouncing between sisters.
That’s pretty much the plot of One Tree Hill’s first few seasons (Peyton and Brooke aren’t sisters but they might as well be) and they get waaaay more criticism than Lucas does for bouncing back and forth way more than Belly ever does
It wouldn't make sense tbh because men usually know what they want and go after it.
Yes! Exactly, I feel like, if anything, people are giving Belly a pass BECAUSE she's a woman and she's just "messy and young"
Sorry for my strong opinion but: Then she should have been writing the story differently.
The way she wrote her and the way she left Belly's real feelings 'a mysterie' to keep the team Conrad/team Jerry thing alive, has done nothing good for Belly's character.
The way she treated Conrad in all his time of grief was mean. And the way she talked about it afterwards gave everybody around him the idea he was the villain in the break up. And Jenny never set that straight!
And then there is the feeling i have, that Jenny doesn't know a thing about modern feminism. She wants Belly to become a strong woman. But strong isn't harsh, strong doesn't mean you have to act like a b*tch. (Like the whole beach scene, like the whole wedding day debacle)
Running away from your responsibilities isn't strong. Leaving a man hanging without any recognition for his feelings or give him some form of closure. Not even write him back is mean, not strong.
She wants Belly to grow in Paris, but she is miserable until she sleeps with Benito... How is that strong?
There are a lot more things she wrote that made people harsh to Belly. But it was all her writing that caused it!
well i wouldn't wanna have a boyfriend who treat me like belly did conrad. tbh last 3 episodes i didn't even want them to end together. they both deserved happy ending but with someone else.
Hey there are movies like Love Rosie and Something Borrowed and a billion other concepts of when you love someone else but the timing isn't right.
The summer I turned pretty is just annoying because so much of it could easily be avoided so it makes you pull your hair out.
The Summer I Turned Pretty ending explained
Key Considerations for "The Summer I Turned Pretty" Ending:
Character Development: The ending focuses on the protagonist, Belly, and her journey of self-discovery and emotional growth. It highlights her relationships with the Fisher brothers, Conrad and Jeremiah.
Love Triangle Resolution: The series culminates in a significant decision for Belly regarding her feelings for Conrad and Jeremiah. The ending emphasizes the complexity of young love and the impact of past experiences on present choices.
Themes of Change: The conclusion reflects the themes of growing up, the bittersweet nature of summer, and the transition from childhood to adulthood. Belly's choices symbolize her maturation and the inevitability of change.
Future Implications: The ending leaves some questions open, particularly regarding Belly's future relationships and how her experiences will shape her. This ambiguity allows for speculation about potential developments in future seasons or books.
Takeaway: The ending of "The Summer I Turned Pretty" serves as a poignant reflection on love, loss, and the transition into adulthood. It captures the essence of summer as a time of change and emotional exploration, leaving viewers with a mix of closure and curiosity about what lies ahead for Belly and her relationships.
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