I feel like folks need to ask themselves which brother can she not live without? Bonnies won’t agree, but one edges out the other based on where the show has led us. I’m being show-specific on purpose. Book Belly would jump off a bridge for Conrad’s attention. If Jere jumped off a bridge, Show Belly would grab his hand and jump with him. She is not willing to be without that boy and I think S2 was her fully realizing it. If she ends up with Conrad, they’ll have to do it in a way that keeps Jeremiah in her life without breaking his heart. Jere’s broken heart just breaks Belly’s heart. They’re too deeply connected. But how would Conrad ever be okay with the kind of relationship those two have had, even as friends? He ignored it before but won’t be able to now that he knows what it means to Jere, specifically. He’d be too confident in his hold on Belly to worry about her.

Also, nobody can convince me Jeremiah will be okay without Belly. He’ll have to have her in his life in some fashion that doesn’t kill his soul. I do hope he finds some solid friends outside of her, though. He needs a Taylor of his own.

This is a big part of why I can’t fathom S3 sticking faithfully to B3’s plot. The general shape of it, sure, but not most of the storylines. They did too much for/with Belly and Jere to pull it off. We’re in for the kind of changes and twists we got in the first two seasons.

Lol she’d be fine without Jere because she has Conrad? Then why was she flopping so bad the past year? Meanwhile as soon as she reconnects with Jere she is turning her life around. Not to mention the swiftness she was ready to leave Conrad’s ass behind at Brown. She turned down the prospect of dating Conrad for Jere’s sake. 

The idea that Belly can’t live without Conrad is ridiculous to me. I mean both in the show and the book she was ready to toss his ass to the curb for Jeremiah. Meanwhile Conrad can’t say the same thing. While Conrad was being left on read writing those sorry ass letters, she was  talking to Jeremiah. Conrad might be infinity and the moon and the stars but he wasn’t worth losing Jeremiah over. 

I will actually die on this hill with you. Jere is the one she can’t can’t live without. Whatever capacity that may be in, she won’t be willing to lose Jere from her life ever again.

This is one of their most delusional takes. Because this is not even close to true in the show, and as much as I bitch about them, this was one thing that was also made clear in the books! Their very own ‘Bonrad love story’ books!

In the show, Belly refused to be with Conrad, ‘her dream’ because she didn’t want to hurt Jeremiah further. She reached out to Jere. Not Conrad. Conrad called her. She didn’t get into a relationship with him until Conrad lied to her face and told her that Jere was ‘over her’ and on a high and going on dates or whatever. So based on that false information, she gets with Conrad. She moves her hand away when she notices something weird with him at Thanksgiving. She is heartbroken when he doesn’t really talk to her when she visits Susannah. She says ‘Me and Jere? before saying or Me and Conrad?’ She calls Jeremiah in episode 1. Not Conrad.

She pursues Jere romantically in Season 2, even after she has his friendship, she pushes for more. She does not let Conrad get in the way of Plan Jere. She doesn’t say ‘I can’t do that to him’ about Conrad. She was getting her guy back no matter what. She wants to evict Conrad from her heart. (her possibly ‘not being able to’ doesn’t diminish the significance of her wanting out of that relationship completely. and I think that speaks volumes but that’s a different story lol)

Now even in the books, Belly also chose Jeremiah and it was clear that Jere was the one she wouldn’t go without, not Conrad. She finally got her confession from Conrad, and decided it wasn’t enough, and that it wasn’t worth losing Jere. (insert heartbreaking romantic quotes about how Jere looks at her and she’s his girl and how it feels like it’s always been that way, she chooses Jeremiah, nobody has every treated her like he does, he loves her no matter what, Conrad will never be what Jere is to her) Of course, by that time it was too little too late. But even after that, Belly ignored Conrad’s letters and didn’t speak to him for quite some time but we know she was speaking to Jere. so LOL Conrad may have given her ‘infinity’ and a roller coaster rush of emotional whiplash that she couldn’t let go of or whatever but Belly’s non-negotiable has always been Jere. Like that was so central to the ‘Bonrad love story’ they praise. Belly has never been ‘okay with Conrad and without Jere’ as we’ve seen. Belly and Jere really do give so much more than Bonrad as far as ‘deep connection’ I really couldn’t care less if Belly was wearing Conrad’s sweatshirt. Like that stuff is so meaningless to me.

I know exactly what you mean. And Bonrads seem to love that, which I will never understand. ‘Belly will never get over Conrad, he makes her feel everything! She’s obsessed with him!’ Like yes, but that’s a good thing to you? And along with that obsession, Belly literally acknowledges how poorly Conrad treated her and how unstable those ‘feelings’ (emotional whiplash among other things…) made her feel. She wanted to be done with it. She made a choice to let him go. And the ‘romantic’ endgame is supposed to be her realizing that she can’t? Idk that just isn’t romantic to me. It’s weird. He gives and takes away, but he gave her infinity. Yeah, no. Her obsession in the books wasn’t romantic in the very least, it was just weird and sad. And even though the show seems to have made some positive changes, I really have very little interest in watching a season 3 that reiterates that narrative. I will watch it for the Jelly scenes of course, but if that’s what they’re planning on doing with the infinity collar and the stupid ass sweatshirt and the candy…why? That’s not romantic! LOL

Belly

Belly!!

Cam

Belly!! Cmon guys it’s her show 🥲

Cam

if Cam wins it’s going to be a big fight between him and Conrad.

Bonrads will say what they have to to make themselves feel better. No sweat.

I do think that Belly will always love both brothers, regardless of whether she ends up with one or the other or neither! They’re both such a big part of her life, it would be impossible to move on completely.

But Belly is 100% all in with Jeremiah, that much is clear from both the books and the show. She loves him and is deliriously happy.

And for anyone that has dated a Conrad before - you know - sometimes you can be happy and your Conrad will give you a sliver of the emotional attention you always wanted from them, and you can’t help yourself you have to indulge it. And it sucks because you hate yourself after. I’m sure Belly will go through that several more times and she’ll just have to learn the hard way. Conrad will not make we happy.

100% agree! My first love was such a Conrad and as much as I loved him, being with him emotionally drained the life out of me. It took a few breakups, but I finally reached that point where I knew I had to choose myself. I hope Belly stays strong and moves forward. She can still love him and eventually rebuild a friendship with him. It’s possible…. I did since my ex and I are in the same friends group lol. He was even at my wedding 🤪.

It’s the Bonrads. They can’t appreciate all the changes in the show that goes against their ship but can appreciate the ones that help it…weird. They cling onto that 3rd book like their life depends on it because I can guarantee you none of them would have such terrible takes if they didn’t know what was to “potentially” come. They obviously chose to ignore the interview where Jenny wanted Belly to have more agency over her decisions. Belly definitely isn’t in denial about her feelings with Conrad. She knows that they loved each other and she said she doesn’t regret any of the times they were together. They act like she’s pretending to hate Conrad or something. She wants to move forward with Jeremiah and that’s okay. She actively chose him so idk why they keep thinking he’s a rebound. It’s not called being a second choice, it’s called moving on which a lot of people do.

Was this from the thread where they ended up saying, the reason Jere could never hurt her as much as Con could was because she didn't love him as much? That Jere could kill people and that wouldn't affect her as much as Con doing something? If so that whole thing made me sick.

Why, why would she do this? Why wouldn't she just be friends with Jere and not be with Conrad? Oh I love him but I can't let myself so I need to be with him brother? Please. It's because she likes and wants Jeremiah!

I also think it’s really important to look at Belly conversation with Laurel in the finale and how it reflects her choosing Jeremiah. There is a part of Belly that will always love and care about Conrad but that doesn’t mean she is currently in love with him and that she should be in a relationship with him. Belly can appreciate what they had in the past but when she is looking to the future and imagining what she wants and what makes her happy she see her and Jeremiah.

None tbh. they both have their issues. If I’d to pick I’d go with cameron.

Conrad 1000%

Integrity, loyalty, kind, loving, sentimental,hard working

Conrad and it’s not even close.

A grown Conrad. Which is, fortunately, what I married.

Conrad 🧡🧡🧡

Jeremiah for sure, he’s got that baby face imo

They do a good job of aging Belly down (she was 18 when they started filling tho) and I think in S1 Taylor definitely looks young/HS age

Jeremiah totally has a baby face.

Honestly, I watched the show this year and Conrad looked so young to me in the first season that I didn’t even look up his age because I thought he’d be so young and I’d feel weird for thinking he was cute, only to find out I’m only 2 years older than him

Steven had changed his hairstyle, Conrad too. Jeremiah looks kind of the same to me. Belly has her hairstyle changed and her makeup doesn't drown her in grief as it did last season.

season 1 belly for sure I was so surprised she was 18/19

Jeremiah, 100%. He has the look of a high-schooler even now in S3 when he’s supposed to be graduating college. I think it’s his baby face & his hair that makes him look like a teen — he’s got the “boy band” look.

Belly/Lola has also always looked mostly age-accurate, especially S1.

Absolutely agree that Belly going to Paris should be her own decision, I think it'll be such a lovely full circle way to show her growth

I’m so glad they referenced that flashback where he gives the ball back to belly - I always thought it showed how much he cared for her before she “turned pretty”

She wanted to see what Conrad was made of. The dude is made of steel.

This is so good!! All the call backs to those moments of him holding back, seeing our steady and sure his love for her has always been. Thank you!

This is such a great edit. Thank you so much for sharing! I thought I was pretty good at detecting themes in this series but I missed so many of these moments.

Wow, Belly’s insecurities about Conrad really stem from her idolizing Susannah and internalizing what she said. I don’t think Susannah intended to imprint* on Belly and I have to believe that Susannah would be regretful if she saw how her narrative affected Belly and her sons.

I am team Jelly, but I know that Belly will probably end up with Conrad in the end. I think that he is the better choice, but I'm okay with just enjoying the ride as it goes.

No - Jenny saying she might change the ending is just a way to get viewers to keep watching. Honestly, I say this as a Jelly shipper, there’s no way Belly and Conrad won’t end up together and i’m fine with that.

No, I just think every clue from the show, from the very beginning, introduces Conrad as The Big Love. And, of course, that's to say nothing of the books, in which we know the end. But I haven't read the books, and even in the series I see the many ways in which Conrad is presented as endgame.

And I don't say that out of malice. Yes, I'm fully Team Conrad, but I try to see the ways in which Jere is the one, and I don't. Although, I will say: They definitely get the hotter make-out scenes! But I think even the fact that S1 ended on Bonrad kissing, and S2 ends with Belly playing volleyball is indicative of where it's heading.

This question has been asked a lot, and 97% of Jelly fans like myself, know that Bonrad is endgame. Unless they have no idea about the books, which does happen! I talk to tons of people at work and in friend groups that legit don’t know what happens in the books, and 100% want a Jelly endgame and think the story on the show is written for that. I don’t have the heart to burst their bubble lol

I saw this one comment about Jeremiah stepping in while Conrad is busy with his work (as a doctor😂)and supporting Belly while planning their wedding. So bellyconrad’s S3 storyline…?

I understand the whole agency thing, and I’m actually in favor of it. But in this series, it feels kind of inauthentic so far — like they're changing scenes just to suddenly add agency, as if they suddenly remembered, “Oh wait, we need to show agency.” I expected better from people who are supposed to be writers.

Up to now, Belly has come across as really unlikeable, and I sometimes get the impression that Jenny and the writers have a completely different idea of how it’s being received. Right now, it comes off as desperate on Belly’s part — and toxic. She broke Conrad’s heart, and judging from the trailer, it looks like Conrad is chasing Belly and not the other way around.

I haven’t liked Season 2 so far and was hoping Season 3 would make it all make sense. But if they don’t shift the narrative — if Belly doesn’t take time to reflect and keeps placing everything on Conrad — then it’s just not working.

Exactly, he could have said it shortly after Belly arrived in Cousins, after the engagement, or at any other early moment in the show. And maybe Belly reassured him by saying it didn’t mean anything. We don’t really know the context of that line, so I guess we just have to wait for the show 

Trailers are just little snips of scenes so we don’t know the exact context of everything. The line “I can see the way you look at him” could also be directly after that or another line completely where Jere notices Belly still has feelings for him. And for her announcing the wedding, she could be restating it after Jere said it and was met with crickets. We don’t know the full context. They didn’t show any real conflict between Jere and Belly, but we know there’s going to be. So we just have to wait to see how it plays out.